Only 52% of Meteorologists/Atmospheric Experts Believe in AGW

[TakeAStepBack]

Is that CO2 in the air??

You have no idea what you're talking about here. None.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Is that CO2 in the air??

You have no idea what you're talking about here. None.

And you do?


Nope

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I certainly would post pictures of smog as an indicator of Goebbel's Warming.

Negg'd for stupidity.

 

[kiwiman127]

You know what? Personally, I'm more concerned about made-made pollution more than anything. Because the pollution contributes more to the health of the world and also America and the impact of pollution on health is in the now stages. Pollution is the big contributor to the current rise of respiratory diseases, birth defects and reproductive failures.
This costs us human lives and raises the cost of healthcare in general.
Therefore, I'm happy about the discussion of Global Warming because it focuses on the pollutants which have fatal effects on the human race.

AGW focuses on CO2 and methane dominantly. Which, neither are pollutants in the conventional sense of the word.

When we are dealing with fossil fuels, they have a very certain effect on respiratory diseases and birth defects and reproductive failures. These same fossil fuels are the concern for the Global Warming debate. That's what I'm pointing out.

 

[Kosh]

You know what? Personally, I'm more concerned about made-made pollution more than anything. Because the pollution contributes more to the health of the world and also America and the impact of pollution on health is in the now stages. Pollution is the big contributor to the current rise of respiratory diseases, birth defects and reproductive failures.
This costs us human lives and raises the cost of healthcare in general.
Therefore, I'm happy about the discussion of Global Warming because it focuses on the pollutants which have fatal effects on the human race.

AGW focuses on CO2 and methane dominantly. Which, neither are pollutants in the conventional sense of the word.

When we are dealing with fossil fuels, they have a very certain effect on respiratory diseases and birth defects and reproductive failures. These same fossil fuels are the concern for the Global Warming debate. That's what I'm pointing out.

The difference being that one is based on medical science and the other based on religious dogma.

 

[RDD_1210]

AGW focuses on CO2 and methane dominantly. Which, neither are pollutants in the conventional sense of the word.

When we are dealing with fossil fuels, they have a very certain effect on respiratory diseases and birth defects and reproductive failures. These same fossil fuels are the concern for the Global Warming debate. That's what I'm pointing out.

The difference being that one is based on medical science and the other based on religious dogma.

And the link to the science you feel supports your position is.......?

 

[ClosedCaption]

When we are dealing with fossil fuels, they have a very certain effect on respiratory diseases and birth defects and reproductive failures. These same fossil fuels are the concern for the Global Warming debate. That's what I'm pointing out.

The difference being that one is based on medical science and the other based on religious dogma.

And the link to the science you feel supports your position is.......?

Kosh's response is him pointing at his heart

 

[RDD_1210]

The difference being that one is based on medical science and the other based on religious dogma.

And the link to the science you feel supports your position is.......?

Kosh's response is him pointing at his heart

I'd like to see some sort of proof of Kosh having a heart.

 

[kiwiman127]

AGW focuses on CO2 and methane dominantly. Which, neither are pollutants in the conventional sense of the word.

When we are dealing with fossil fuels, they have a very certain effect on respiratory diseases and birth defects and reproductive failures. These same fossil fuels are the concern for the Global Warming debate. That's what I'm pointing out.

The difference being that one is based on medical science and the other based on religious dogma.

There's a lot of financial stakes tied to both sides of the warming argument and I'm riding the fence on Global Warming. Maybe one of these days something very conclusive will emerge from one side or the other?
But regarding regarding fossil fuel driven pollution's effects on the respiratory and birth defects/failures, that's very conclusive.
Why the right is so anti-alternative energy really confuses and anger's me. I don't know how many threads I've seen directed in a negative way about alternative energy. There are posters here that attack the many scientific studies done in relation to the effects of airborne fossil fuels and the human body.
I fully realize that the world will never be fossil fuel energy free, but alternative energy only adds to the resources that are available. Alternative energy actually helps the world conserve it's fossil fuels resources. We all know the the word "conserve" is the foundation for the word "conservative". One would think real conservatives would be 100% for the conservation of energy through the expansion of alternative energy. It's a win-win situation! Fossil fuels are banked for the future and human health gets a barrier put up that protects mankind from avoidable healthcare negatives. Both of these are good for mankind and ones wealth.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

There's a lot of financial stakes tied to both sides of the warming argument and I'm riding the fence on Global Warming. Maybe one of these days something very conclusive will emerge from one side or the other?

Skeptics do not have to prove a negative. It is the AGW crowd that needs to prove their case. And so far, they have not done so. Not even a little.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I fully realize that the world will never be fossil fuel energy free, but alternative energy only adds to the resources that are available. Alternative energy actually helps the world conserve it's fossil fuels resources. We all know the the word "conserve" is the foundation for the word "conservative". One would think real conservatives would be 100% for the conservation of energy through the expansion of alternative energy. It's a win-win situation! Fossil fuels are banked for the future and human health gets a barrier put up that protects mankind from avoidable healthcare negatives. Both of these are good for mankind and ones wealth.

Alternatives also come with their own pollutions, hazards and impacts. it's not a zero sum game.

 

[kiwiman127]

I fully realize that the world will never be fossil fuel energy free, but alternative energy only adds to the resources that are available. Alternative energy actually helps the world conserve it's fossil fuels resources. We all know the the word "conserve" is the foundation for the word "conservative". One would think real conservatives would be 100% for the conservation of energy through the expansion of alternative energy. It's a win-win situation! Fossil fuels are banked for the future and human health gets a barrier put up that protects mankind from avoidable healthcare negatives. Both of these are good for mankind and ones wealth.

Alternatives also come with their own pollutions, hazards and impacts. it's not a zero sum game.

True, but as of today, fossil fuels' negatives out weigh alternative energy's negative.
It's like when there is a negative about alternative energy there's thread after thread. Yet when negatives arise about fossil fuel, it pretty much quiet around here.

 

[ClosedCaption]

They wont believe it until the US looks like Shanghi.

Takeastep negged me for these pics with the word "moron".

Another deep thought and well reasoned response

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I dont know about that. Are you familiar with ethanol? It's a pretty terrible "renewable" policy. There are major impacts to the environment. Solar panel creation - you ever seen what comes out of that?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

They wont believe it until the US looks like Shanghi.

Takeastep negged me for these pics with the word "moron".

Another deep thought and well reasoned response

I'd neg you again for whining if i could. Stay out of topics you dont understand or remain quiet and learn. Smog doesn't have anything to do with AGW. Nothing. Therefore, you're ignorant of the topic and should listen instead of attempting to speak.

 

[RDD_1210]

There's a lot of financial stakes tied to both sides of the warming argument and I'm riding the fence on Global Warming. Maybe one of these days something very conclusive will emerge from one side or the other?

Skeptics do not have to prove a negative. It is the AGW crowd that needs to prove their case. And so far, they have not done so. Not even a little.

LOL, you know something that ALL of these organizations don't know?


(Scientific Organizations That Hold the Position That Climate Change Has Been Caused by Human Action)

Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Académie des Sciences, France
Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
Academy of Athens
Academy of Science of Mozambique
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy of Sciences of Moldova
Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
African Academy of Sciences
Albanian Academy of Sciences
Amazon Environmental Research Institute
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Fisheries Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Civil Engineers
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Australian Academy of Science
Australian Bureau of Meteorology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Institute of Marine Science
Australian Institute of Physics
Australian Marine Sciences Association
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
Botanical Society of America
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
California Academy of Sciences
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Canadian Association of Physicists
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Geophysical Union
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Society of Soil Science
Canadian Society of Zoologists
Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
Center for International Forestry Research
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Crop Science Society of America
Cuban Academy of Sciences
Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
Ecological Society of America
Ecological Society of Australia
Environmental Protection Agency
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
Federation of American Scientists
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
Georgian Academy of Sciences
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK
InterAcademy Council
International Alliance of Research Universities
International Arctic Science Committee
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Council for Science
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
International Research Institute for Climate and Society
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
Islamic World Academy of Sciences
Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Korean Academy of Science and Technology
Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Latin American Academy of Sciences
Latvian Academy of Sciences
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of State Foresters
National Center for Atmospheric Research
National Council of Engineers Australia
National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
National Science Foundation
Natural England
Natural Environment Research Council, UK
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Network of African Science Academies
New York Academy of Sciences
Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Pakistan Academy of Sciences
Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Romanian Academy
Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
Royal Society of the United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science and Technology, Australia
Science Council of Japan
Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Slovak Academy of Sciences
Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Society for Ecological Restoration International
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of American Foresters
Society of Biology (UK)
Society of Biology, UK
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Sudanese National Academy of Science
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
The Wildlife Society (international)
Turkish Academy of Sciences
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Forestry Congress
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

Office of Planning and Research - List of Organizations

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, Dullard.

 

[RDD_1210]

And since the OP feels that the word of the AMS is valid, let's see what the AMS's official stance is on Global Warming.

There is unequivocal evidence that Earth’s lower atmosphere, ocean, and land surface are warming; sea level is rising; and snow cover, mountain glaciers, and Arctic sea ice are shrinking. The dominant cause of the warming since the 1950s is human activities. This scientific finding is based on a large and persuasive body of research. The observed warming will be irreversible for many years into the future, and even larger temperature increases will occur as greenhouse gases continue to accumulate in the atmosphere

http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2012climatechange.pdf

 

[RDD_1210]

Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, Dullard.

Swing and a miss!

When presented with overwhelming international support for Global warming as being verifiable and real, what do you do?.................Punt! Good sheep.

I'll quote something I recently heard that I feel is fitting here - "Stay out of topics you dont understand or remain quiet and learn."

 

[ClosedCaption]

They wont believe it until the US looks like Shanghi.

Takeastep negged me for these pics with the word "moron".

Another deep thought and well reasoned response

I'd neg you again for whining if i could. Stay out of topics you dont understand or remain quiet and learn. Smog doesn't have anything to do with AGW. Nothing. Therefore, you're ignorant of the topic and should listen instead of attempting to speak.

I know you would thats what bitches do.

I cant understand something you never say idiot.

Smog does have something to do with man made pollution. Which if man had no effect on the earth there wouldnt be smog in the first place. Put the pieces together. I'm onto level 3, Sorry did I lose you?