Only religion has ever reined in Government attempts to control your entire life

[Libby von H]

I just want some of the dropouts here to learn a little history. Toynbee devoted his life to the study of religion and civillization.

“Religion holds the solution to all problems of human relationship, whether they are between parents and children or nation and nation. Sooner or later, man has always had to decide whether he worships his own power or the power of God.”

“Material power that is not counterbalanced by adequate spiritual power, that is, by love and wisdom, is a curse.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“Man’s true end is to glorify God and to enjoy Him for ever.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“The course of human history consists of a series of encounters between individual human beings and God in which each man and woman or child, in turn, is challenged by God to make his free choice between doing God’s will and refusing to do it.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

SCAREY for liberals
“The last stage but one of every civilisation, is characterised by the forced political unification of its constituent parts, into a single greater whole.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

 

[sparky]

you got this backwards Libby....~S~

 

[mamooth]

We're now watching the religious tongue-bathe the Trump cult fascists in the USA.

Sometimes the religious fight for freedom, but they just as often fight for authoritarianism.

 

[JGalt]

I just want some of the dropouts here to learn a little history. Toynbee devoted his life to the study of religion and civillization.

“Religion holds the solution to all problems of human relationship, whether they are between parents and children or nation and nation. Sooner or later, man has always had to decide whether he worships his own power or the power of God.”

“Material power that is not counterbalanced by adequate spiritual power, that is, by love and wisdom, is a curse.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“Man’s true end is to glorify God and to enjoy Him for ever.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“The course of human history consists of a series of encounters between individual human beings and God in which each man and woman or child, in turn, is challenged by God to make his free choice between doing God’s will and refusing to do it.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

SCAREY for liberals
“The last stage but one of every civilisation, is characterised by the forced political unification of its constituent parts, into a single greater whole.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

Absolutely true. Freedom, equality, and dignity are bestowed on all by virtue of being human, made in the image of God. These rights are not earned, but divinely ordained. Freedom is not individualized license but the freedom to love and serve God and others.

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[rampart]

We're now watching the religious tongue-bathe the Trump cult fascists in the USA.

Sometimes the religious fight for freedom, but they just as often fight for authoritarianism.

government, via the first amendment, is the only force available (outside the natural skepticism that saves a few of us.) to protect us from total control by religion.;

 

[mamooth]

True dat. The feds are most often the defenders of freedom, while state and local governments are the destroyers of freedom.

 

[rampart]

True dat. The feds are most often the defenders of freedom, while state and local governments are the destroyers of freedom.

the entire 14th amendment, the basis of our government and social contract, will soon go the way of its paeagraph 3 and voting rights if we can not reverse this trend.

 

[ReinyDays]

God's Law is perfect ... it is Man who fails ...

We're given death for adultery ... is that what you want? ... killing children for disobedience? ... cutting off women's heads for the sin of driving a car? ... maybe you should read the Bible before you advocate his contents ...

Q: Who among us is perfect and can cast these judgements? ...
A: Charles III of England ... by divine right ... Jesus gives us a monarchy ...

 

[Oddball]

I just want some of the dropouts here to learn a little history. Toynbee devoted his life to the study of religion and civillization.

“Religion holds the solution to all problems of human relationship, whether they are between parents and children or nation and nation. Sooner or later, man has always had to decide whether he worships his own power or the power of God.”

“Material power that is not counterbalanced by adequate spiritual power, that is, by love and wisdom, is a curse.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“Man’s true end is to glorify God and to enjoy Him for ever.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“The course of human history consists of a series of encounters between individual human beings and God in which each man and woman or child, in turn, is challenged by God to make his free choice between doing God’s will and refusing to do it.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

SCAREY for liberals
“The last stage but one of every civilisation, is characterised by the forced political unification of its constituent parts, into a single greater whole.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

Shitlibs worship The State....Can't serve two masters, and all that.

 

[BluesLegend]

Shitlibs worship The State....Can't serve two masters, and all that.

Government CONTROL of you, your wealth and property is the Democrats religion.

 

[Libby von H]

you got this backwards Libby....~S~

On your simple say-so? How stupid and egotistical be you

 

[Oddball]

Government CONTROL of you, your wealth and property is the Democrats religion.

And their deity is The State.

 

[Libby von H]

We're now watching the religious tongue-bathe the Trump cult fascists in the USA.

Sometimes the religious fight for freedom, but they just as often fight for authoritarianism.

which is illogical to say since that means if an American gay Black Catholic Democrat does something it must be because he is religious.
DO you feel stupid? you should
IN Logic this is the QUA distinction (which you always abuse far as I can tell) If a tall person eats a pizza is it because they are tall? That is your constant fallacy , to reduce a multi-dimensional being to a non-free automaton acting under the one dimension that you (because you are a racist and bigot )say he must be acting under.

 

[BluesLegend]

And their deity is The State.

When Biden, Obama and Clinton are on a stage and the fake news proclaims Joe was the alfa on that stage you know all is lost. I don't know maybe Joe is their anti-Christ?

 

[rampart]

which is illogical to say since that means if an American gay Black Catholic Democrat does something it must be because he is religious.
DO you feel stupid? you should

well, libby. if one of the millions of immigrants commits an atrocious crime are not all immigrants blamed?

perhaps the religious leaders should do something to defuse violence beside send recruits to the proud boys?

 

[berg80]

Absolutely true. Freedom, equality, and dignity are bestowed on all by virtue of being human, made in the image of God. These rights are not earned, but divinely ordained. Freedom is not individualized license but the freedom to love and serve God and others.

If only there was a god you might have something there.

 

[berg80]

which is illogical to say since that means if an American gay Black Catholic Democrat does something it must be because he is religious.
DO you feel stupid? you should
IN Logic this is the QUA distinction (which you always abuse far as I can tell) If a tall person eats a pizza is it because they are tall? That is your constant fallacy , to reduce a multi-dimensional being to a non-free automaton acting under the one dimension that you (because you are a racist and bigot )say he must be acting under.

How is trying to hide religious zealotry behind the guise of logic working out for you?

 

[Crepitus]

I just want some of the dropouts here to learn a little history. Toynbee devoted his life to the study of religion and civillization.

“Religion holds the solution to all problems of human relationship, whether they are between parents and children or nation and nation. Sooner or later, man has always had to decide whether he worships his own power or the power of God.”

“Material power that is not counterbalanced by adequate spiritual power, that is, by love and wisdom, is a curse.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“Man’s true end is to glorify God and to enjoy Him for ever.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

“The course of human history consists of a series of encounters between individual human beings and God in which each man and woman or child, in turn, is challenged by God to make his free choice between doing God’s will and refusing to do it.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

SCAREY for liberals
“The last stage but one of every civilisation, is characterised by the forced political unification of its constituent parts, into a single greater whole.”

— Arnold J. Toynbee

Only government has ever reined in religious people's attempts to control your entire lives.

YOu do remember that escaping the church of england was part of why the US was founded, right?

 

[Crepitus]

Absolutely true. Freedom, equality, and dignity are bestowed on all by virtue of being human, made in the image of God. These rights are not earned, but divinely ordained. Freedom is not individualized license but the freedom to love and serve God and others.

The image of god?

This is a god of billions: