Oregon Will Become Second State to Offer Free Community College

[Socialist]

Oh hell yes!

More than 10,000 students are expected to benefit from a last-minute bill passed by legislators this week that makes Oregon only the second state (after Tennessee) to offer free community college.

The idea, according to state Sen. Mark Hass(D-Beaverton), is that a lot of needy students who might like to attend community college are currently failing to apply for federal grants that could pay for much of their education.

The new legislation, Senate Bill 81, offers a carrot: If eligible students apply for and receive federal grants for community college, Oregon will pay the balance of their tuition. The recipients must have lived in Oregon for 12 months, begin their community college course work within six months of finishing high school or the equivalent, take courses that are required for graduation and maintain a 2.5 grade point average. (And it's not entirely free—each student must pay a minimum of $50 per term.)

In legislative testimony, Hass cited state estimates that it costs about $14,000 a year in social services and indirect costs to support each of the 70,000 Oregonians between the ages of 18 and 24 who are unemployed and have no education beyond high school.

"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28.

In Tennessee, more than 80 percent of the students that took part last year in that state's new program got full or partial grant (not loan) funding from federal Pell grants. The state then paid the balance.

If Gov. Kate Brown signs the bill, Oregon will begin its program in 2016, with expenditures capped at $10 million per year. Hass says that, because the program is new, no one is quite sure how many students will take advantage of it. Legislative estimates put the number at between 10,000 and 12,000.

The Senate approved the bill last Thursday. The House then OK'd it late Friday, with 14 of the chamber's 25 GOP members voting for it, led by Rep. Mark Johnson (R-Hood River), who worked closely with Hass on the bill.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-...nd_state_to_offer_free_community_college.html

 

[Hossfly]

Oh hell yes!

More than 10,000 students are expected to benefit from a last-minute bill passed by legislators this week that makes Oregon only the second state (after Tennessee) to offer free community college.

The idea, according to state Sen. Mark Hass(D-Beaverton), is that a lot of needy students who might like to attend community college are currently failing to apply for federal grants that could pay for much of their education.

The new legislation, Senate Bill 81, offers a carrot: If eligible students apply for and receive federal grants for community college, Oregon will pay the balance of their tuition. The recipients must have lived in Oregon for 12 months, begin their community college course work within six months of finishing high school or the equivalent, take courses that are required for graduation and maintain a 2.5 grade point average. (And it's not entirely free—each student must pay a minimum of $50 per term.)

In legislative testimony, Hass cited state estimates that it costs about $14,000 a year in social services and indirect costs to support each of the 70,000 Oregonians between the ages of 18 and 24 who are unemployed and have no education beyond high school.

"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28.

In Tennessee, more than 80 percent of the students that took part last year in that state's new program got full or partial grant (not loan) funding from federal Pell grants. The state then paid the balance.

If Gov. Kate Brown signs the bill, Oregon will begin its program in 2016, with expenditures capped at $10 million per year. Hass says that, because the program is new, no one is quite sure how many students will take advantage of it. Legislative estimates put the number at between 10,000 and 12,000.

The Senate approved the bill last Thursday. The House then OK'd it late Friday, with 14 of the chamber's 25 GOP members voting for it, led by Rep. Mark Johnson (R-Hood River), who worked closely with Hass on the bill.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-...nd_state_to_offer_free_community_college.html

Free, is it?

 

[nuhuh]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

 

[Socialist]

Oh hell yes!

More than 10,000 students are expected to benefit from a last-minute bill passed by legislators this week that makes Oregon only the second state (after Tennessee) to offer free community college.

The idea, according to state Sen. Mark Hass(D-Beaverton), is that a lot of needy students who might like to attend community college are currently failing to apply for federal grants that could pay for much of their education.

The new legislation, Senate Bill 81, offers a carrot: If eligible students apply for and receive federal grants for community college, Oregon will pay the balance of their tuition. The recipients must have lived in Oregon for 12 months, begin their community college course work within six months of finishing high school or the equivalent, take courses that are required for graduation and maintain a 2.5 grade point average. (And it's not entirely free—each student must pay a minimum of $50 per term.)

In legislative testimony, Hass cited state estimates that it costs about $14,000 a year in social services and indirect costs to support each of the 70,000 Oregonians between the ages of 18 and 24 who are unemployed and have no education beyond high school.

"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28.

In Tennessee, more than 80 percent of the students that took part last year in that state's new program got full or partial grant (not loan) funding from federal Pell grants. The state then paid the balance.

If Gov. Kate Brown signs the bill, Oregon will begin its program in 2016, with expenditures capped at $10 million per year. Hass says that, because the program is new, no one is quite sure how many students will take advantage of it. Legislative estimates put the number at between 10,000 and 12,000.

The Senate approved the bill last Thursday. The House then OK'd it late Friday, with 14 of the chamber's 25 GOP members voting for it, led by Rep. Mark Johnson (R-Hood River), who worked closely with Hass on the bill.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-...nd_state_to_offer_free_community_college.html

Free, is it?

Nothing is "free" but the benefits far outweigh the costs, especially when looking at Tennessee.

 

[Hossfly]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

 

[Bush92]

Oh hell yes!

More than 10,000 students are expected to benefit from a last-minute bill passed by legislators this week that makes Oregon only the second state (after Tennessee) to offer free community college.

The idea, according to state Sen. Mark Hass(D-Beaverton), is that a lot of needy students who might like to attend community college are currently failing to apply for federal grants that could pay for much of their education.

The new legislation, Senate Bill 81, offers a carrot: If eligible students apply for and receive federal grants for community college, Oregon will pay the balance of their tuition. The recipients must have lived in Oregon for 12 months, begin their community college course work within six months of finishing high school or the equivalent, take courses that are required for graduation and maintain a 2.5 grade point average. (And it's not entirely free—each student must pay a minimum of $50 per term.)

In legislative testimony, Hass cited state estimates that it costs about $14,000 a year in social services and indirect costs to support each of the 70,000 Oregonians between the ages of 18 and 24 who are unemployed and have no education beyond high school.

"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28.

In Tennessee, more than 80 percent of the students that took part last year in that state's new program got full or partial grant (not loan) funding from federal Pell grants. The state then paid the balance.

If Gov. Kate Brown signs the bill, Oregon will begin its program in 2016, with expenditures capped at $10 million per year. Hass says that, because the program is new, no one is quite sure how many students will take advantage of it. Legislative estimates put the number at between 10,000 and 12,000.

The Senate approved the bill last Thursday. The House then OK'd it late Friday, with 14 of the chamber's 25 GOP members voting for it, led by Rep. Mark Johnson (R-Hood River), who worked closely with Hass on the bill.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-...nd_state_to_offer_free_community_college.html

And soon they will be as broke as Greece. Nothing is free Debs.

 

[Socialist]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

Oh please, your rhetoric is stale and old, it will be more cost effective and a beneficial use of tax dollars to help poor students get a education to better themselves, especially when looking at the success in Tennessee.

 

[Socialist]

Oh hell yes!

More than 10,000 students are expected to benefit from a last-minute bill passed by legislators this week that makes Oregon only the second state (after Tennessee) to offer free community college.

The idea, according to state Sen. Mark Hass(D-Beaverton), is that a lot of needy students who might like to attend community college are currently failing to apply for federal grants that could pay for much of their education.

The new legislation, Senate Bill 81, offers a carrot: If eligible students apply for and receive federal grants for community college, Oregon will pay the balance of their tuition. The recipients must have lived in Oregon for 12 months, begin their community college course work within six months of finishing high school or the equivalent, take courses that are required for graduation and maintain a 2.5 grade point average. (And it's not entirely free—each student must pay a minimum of $50 per term.)

In legislative testimony, Hass cited state estimates that it costs about $14,000 a year in social services and indirect costs to support each of the 70,000 Oregonians between the ages of 18 and 24 who are unemployed and have no education beyond high school.

"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28.

In Tennessee, more than 80 percent of the students that took part last year in that state's new program got full or partial grant (not loan) funding from federal Pell grants. The state then paid the balance.

If Gov. Kate Brown signs the bill, Oregon will begin its program in 2016, with expenditures capped at $10 million per year. Hass says that, because the program is new, no one is quite sure how many students will take advantage of it. Legislative estimates put the number at between 10,000 and 12,000.

The Senate approved the bill last Thursday. The House then OK'd it late Friday, with 14 of the chamber's 25 GOP members voting for it, led by Rep. Mark Johnson (R-Hood River), who worked closely with Hass on the bill.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-...nd_state_to_offer_free_community_college.html

And soon they will be as broke as Greece. Nothing is free Debs.

You're a fucking idiot, another moron who has no basic understanding of the greece situation. Time to repost another post I've made:
"Why does everyone discussing Greece have literally no idea what the situation is what so ever. The current leftist coalition in power, Syriza, got put into power due to the crisis caused by people not paying taxes, the need for a strong left for the people (Yes, democracy exists In Greece and the people are making decisions, surprise surprise.) The main problem with Greece is the rampant tax evasion, and the corrupt history of finances that weren't even touched by the current government. Austerity NEVER works and is a disaster, so good for Greece. Oh, and I think it's hilarious how right wing idiots literally have no idea what socialism is, democratic ownership of production, that is socialism, and I think it's funny how you fucking nuts are cherrypicking Greece's crisis to somehow Blame socialism when you fail to understand the crisis and the vast majority of countries that have generous Social programs and do amazingly well. I didn't see you right wing nutters calling the 2008 crisis a failure of capitalism, so grow up."

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Oh hell yes!

More than 10,000 students are expected to benefit from a last-minute bill passed by legislators this week that makes Oregon only the second state (after Tennessee) to offer free community college.

The idea, according to state Sen. Mark Hass(D-Beaverton), is that a lot of needy students who might like to attend community college are currently failing to apply for federal grants that could pay for much of their education.

The new legislation, Senate Bill 81, offers a carrot: If eligible students apply for and receive federal grants for community college, Oregon will pay the balance of their tuition. The recipients must have lived in Oregon for 12 months, begin their community college course work within six months of finishing high school or the equivalent, take courses that are required for graduation and maintain a 2.5 grade point average. (And it's not entirely free—each student must pay a minimum of $50 per term.)

In legislative testimony, Hass cited state estimates that it costs about $14,000 a year in social services and indirect costs to support each of the 70,000 Oregonians between the ages of 18 and 24 who are unemployed and have no education beyond high school.

"A lifetime of food stamps is much more expensive than the annual community college tuition of $3,000," Hass told lawmakers on May 28.

In Tennessee, more than 80 percent of the students that took part last year in that state's new program got full or partial grant (not loan) funding from federal Pell grants. The state then paid the balance.

If Gov. Kate Brown signs the bill, Oregon will begin its program in 2016, with expenditures capped at $10 million per year. Hass says that, because the program is new, no one is quite sure how many students will take advantage of it. Legislative estimates put the number at between 10,000 and 12,000.

The Senate approved the bill last Thursday. The House then OK'd it late Friday, with 14 of the chamber's 25 GOP members voting for it, led by Rep. Mark Johnson (R-Hood River), who worked closely with Hass on the bill.

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-...nd_state_to_offer_free_community_college.html

Weren't all community colleges free in the beginning? So isn't this just 'the 2nd state to remember 'oh ya huh'"

 

[Hossfly]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

Oh please, your rhetoric is stale and old, it will be more cost effective and a beneficial use of tax dollars to help poor students get a education to better themselves, especially when looking at the success in Tennessee.

When the workers who pay taxes diminish and the cash cow dries up the leeches will either have to go to work or starve. Check out Social Security.

 

[Socialist]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

Oh please, your rhetoric is stale and old, it will be more cost effective and a beneficial use of tax dollars to help poor students get a education to better themselves, especially when looking at the success in Tennessee.

When the workers who pay taxes diminish and the cash cow dries up the leeches will either have to go to work or starve. Check out Social Security.

Weren't you freaking out and crying when gay marriage passed? Now I know who I'm talking to, so this should be fun. The labor force replenishes itself, especially when more people have access to higher education, so nice job throwing out a literally pointless statement that has no bearing in reality. Social security? We could easily fund social security.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Social Security Statment - 8-24-11.pdf

 

[nuhuh]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

Oh please, your rhetoric is stale and old, it will be more cost effective and a beneficial use of tax dollars to help poor students get a education to better themselves, especially when looking at the success in Tennessee.

When the workers who pay taxes diminish and the cash cow dries up the leeches will either have to go to work or starve. Check out Social Security.

A free education is probably a better investment than a lifetime of welfare and foodstamps. The benefit to the nation as well is obvious.

 

[Socialist]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

Oh please, your rhetoric is stale and old, it will be more cost effective and a beneficial use of tax dollars to help poor students get a education to better themselves, especially when looking at the success in Tennessee.

When the workers who pay taxes diminish and the cash cow dries up the leeches will either have to go to work or starve. Check out Social Security.

A free education is probably a better investment than a lifetime of welfare and foodstamps. The benefit to the nation as well is obvious.

Well, the majority of receivers of food stamps/welfare are in working families/do work, but yes, I don't see the logic of any rightwinger being against a more cost effective way to help people advance and get off of the "evil entitlements."

 

[g5000]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

The very same people who foot the bill for K through 12 education.

 

[g5000]

If eligible students apply for and receive federal grants for community college, Oregon will pay the balance of their tuition.

And what if they apply for and DON'T get a federal grant?

 

[prison/con.net]

if they take the "harder" classes in high school, it's the same thing as typical junior college classes, especially for the first year of jr college. You can still take the CLEP test and skip the first 2 years of college, if you are bright and hard working. That means that your 5 years of student loans and grants can = a master's degree. Get that master's in being a nurse Anethecist, and you'll make 150k per year. A lot of dentists and quite a few MD's do no better than that, even after training for many more years and spending another 100-200k on their education.

 

[g5000]

Here's the bill: https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB81

It does not say the applicant has to have received a federal grant. It says they have to applied for one and accepted whatever grants they were offered.

That makes a lot more sense. The OP article got it wrong.

(3) A grant shall be awarded under this section to a person who meets the following criteria:
<snip>
(f)Completed and submitted the Free Application for Federal Student Aid for each academic year and accepted all state and federal aid grants available to the person

 

[Hossfly]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

Oh please, your rhetoric is stale and old, it will be more cost effective and a beneficial use of tax dollars to help poor students get a education to better themselves, especially when looking at the success in Tennessee.

When the workers who pay taxes diminish and the cash cow dries up the leeches will either have to go to work or starve. Check out Social Security.

Weren't you freaking out and crying when gay marriage passed? Now I know who I'm talking to, so this should be fun. The labor force replenishes itself, especially when more people have access to higher education, so nice job throwing out a literally pointless statement that has no bearing in reality. Social security? We could easily fund social security.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Social Security Statment - 8-24-11.pdf

I don't agree with gay marriage but I knew our Godless government would approve it. Yes the work force replenishes itself and so does the freeloaders multiply and then the work force will bitch about the cost of providing "free shit." I actually went past the 3d grade and the VA gave me a free college education and I majored in Economics. But I've always been a hard headed rebel ass Conservative.

 

[prison/con.net]

it's pretty difficult to NOT get the Pell grant, dude.

 

[Socialist]

Advancing America who could possibly be against that?

The people who will be forced to foot the bill?

Oh please, your rhetoric is stale and old, it will be more cost effective and a beneficial use of tax dollars to help poor students get a education to better themselves, especially when looking at the success in Tennessee.

When the workers who pay taxes diminish and the cash cow dries up the leeches will either have to go to work or starve. Check out Social Security.

Weren't you freaking out and crying when gay marriage passed? Now I know who I'm talking to, so this should be fun. The labor force replenishes itself, especially when more people have access to higher education, so nice job throwing out a literally pointless statement that has no bearing in reality. Social security? We could easily fund social security.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Social Security Statment - 8-24-11.pdf

I don't agree with gay marriage but I knew our Godless government would approve it. Yes the work force replenishes itself and so does the freeloaders multiply and then the work force will bitch about the cost of providing "free shit." I actually went past the 3d grade and the VA gave me a free college education and I majored in Economics. But I've always been a hard headed rebel ass Conservative.

"Freeloaders multiply" The most welfare heavy countries have a growing labor force and provide free higher education,