Palestine Today

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,


The phrase ""Innocent" Israeli civilian" are words of description and NOT the language used to make the distinction between "Civilians and Combatants" found in the Customary Rules of International Humanitarian Law (IHL); see Rules 1 thru 6 in the ICRC Database.

"Innocent" Israeli civilian.

(COMMENT)

The question here is somewhat different than you might first expect. Is the purpose of this person being armed to protect the children and defend against Arab Palestinian acts (or threats of violence) the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population.

What I find interesting is the hidden intent of the question. Maybe it is to justify (the unspoken) attacks that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) are famous: attacks against restaurants, amusement and entertainment locations, civilian mass transit, locations of a religious significance, and other soft targets. When Article 51(2), Additional Protocol 1, is constantly and consistently ignored by the HoAP, it becomes necessary for the Israelis to take what measures available to them, to mitigate the threat.

The suggestion that the Israeli use of (armed) off-duty law enforcement, security and military personnel to defend against HoAP terrorism prohibited by Article 51(2), Additional Protocol 1, is absurd.

Other than the fact that this mother of two is armed, she is (for all other intent and purposes) an "innocent civilian" guarding against the greater threat presented by cowardly actions that the past history of the HoAP behaviors have proven all too possible.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,


The phrase ""Innocent" Israeli civilian" are words of description and NOT the language used to make the distinction between "Civilians and Combatants" found in the Customary Rules of International Humanitarian Law (IHL); see Rules 1 thru 6 in the ICRC Database.

"Innocent" Israeli civilian.

(COMMENT)

The question here is somewhat different than you might first expect. Is the purpose of this person being armed to protect the children and defend against Arab Palestinian acts (or threats of violence) the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population.

What I find interesting is the hidden intent of the question. Maybe it is to justify (the unspoken) attacks that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) are famous: attacks against restaurants, amusement and entertainment locations, civilian mass transit, locations of a religious significance, and other soft targets. When Article 51(2), Additional Protocol 1, is constantly and consistently ignored by the HoAP, it becomes necessary for the Israelis to take what measures available to them, to mitigate the threat.

The suggestion that the Israeli use of (armed) off-duty law enforcement, security and military personnel to defend against HoAP terrorism prohibited by Article 51(2), Additional Protocol 1, is absurd.

Other than the fact that this mother of two is armed, she is (for all other intent and purposes) an "innocent civilian" guarding against the greater threat presented by cowardly actions that the past history of the HoAP behaviors have proven all too possible.

Most Respectfully,
R

Your usual slime piece.

How do the Palestinians defend themselves?

 

[fanger]

 

[Hollie]

Both you and your Islamic terrorist heroes really do have a need to exploit children for propaganda purposes.

Approved by your Mullah?

 

[fanger]

Approved by israel,

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tamimi family & their struggle against Israeli occupation

 

[Hollie]

Tamimi family & their struggle against Israeli occupation

It seems that the very least you could do would be to go on a hunger strike, or maybe organize a flotilla.

But no. There you sit. Behind the comfort of your keyboard, cutting and pasting YouTube videos.

That’s some sorry gee-had ya’ got there.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tamimi family & their struggle against Israeli occupation

It seems that the very least you could do would be to go on a hunger strike, or maybe organize a flotilla.

But no. There you sit. Behind the comfort of your keyboard, cutting and pasting YouTube videos.

That’s some sorry gee-had ya’ got there.

Information is a critical part of the struggle. If people's only information is Israeli bullshit, they will support Israel.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Shusha
I disagree with your definition of "native". You seem to imply that those living on the territory are "native" by the fact of their residence. I disagree. In the Americas, for example, those residing on the territory are not natives, but colonists, immigrants and descendants of colonists and immigrants.

The problem is not my definition of native.

The real problem is your inability to come to terms with the fact that the mythological ancestry of ethiopians, Indians and europeans of jewish faith is just that: religious myth.

The arab people who inhabited Palestine when the zionist movement started, in 1880, were the offspring of all the biblical peoples who lived there with the addition of around 15, 20% of immigrants coming from Arabia and a very tiny influx of other peoples, like the Crusaders from Europe, etc, etc... as well as the natural population exchanges that occur in all neighboring regions and countries in the world, like America and Canada/Mexico, China and Mongolia/Russia, South Africa and Zimbabwe/Botswana, Argentina and Chile/Paraguai etc, etc ...

This is the big irony of the entire Israeli/Palestinian conflict:

The real descendants of the ancient Jews who inhabited that region are the same people who are now being confined into ethnic enclaves, murdered, arrested and expelled in the name of Judaism, the religion of their ancestors.

The real "Jews" of Palestine being dehumanized, treated as foreigners in the same historical homeland of their jewish ancestors by a population of converts to Judaism from around the world in the name of the religion of their ancestors.

You can't make this shit up.

 

[rylah]

"Innocent" Israeli civilian.

Explain to me, how does it work in Your mind?

 

[Hollie]

Tamimi family & their struggle against Israeli occupation

It seems that the very least you could do would be to go on a hunger strike, or maybe organize a flotilla.

But no. There you sit. Behind the comfort of your keyboard, cutting and pasting YouTube videos.

That’s some sorry gee-had ya’ got there.

Information is a critical part of the struggle. If people's only information is Israeli bullshit, they will support Israel.

You spend too much time in your alternate universe of fear, superstition and contrived conspiracy theories.

 

[Shusha]

Originally posted by Shusha
I disagree with your definition of "native". You seem to imply that those living on the territory are "native" by the fact of their residence. I disagree. In the Americas, for example, those residing on the territory are not natives, but colonists, immigrants and descendants of colonists and immigrants.

The problem is not my definition of native.

The real problem is your inability to come to terms with the fact that the mythological ancestry of ethiopians, Indians and europeans of jewish faith is just that: religious myth.

The arab people who inhabited Palestine when the zionist movement started, in 1880, were the offspring of all the biblical peoples who lived there with the addition of around 15, 20% of immigrants coming from Arabia and a very tiny influx of other peoples, like the Crusaders from Europe, etc, etc... as well as the natural population exchanges that occur in all neighboring regions and countries in the world, like America and Canada/Mexico, China and Mongolia/Russia, South Africa and Zimbabwe/Botswana, Argentina and Chile/Paraguai etc, etc ...

This is the big irony of the entire Israeli/Palestinian conflict:

The real descendants of the ancient Jews who inhabited that region are the same people who are now being confined into ethnic enclaves, murdered, arrested and expelled in the name of Judaism, the religion of their ancestors.

The real "Jews" of Palestine being dehumanized, treated as foreigners in the same historical homeland of their jewish ancestors by a population of converts to Judaism from around the world in the name of the religion of their ancestors.

You can't make this shit up.

Sure. You are making the claim that "ancestry" and "nativeness" are a product of presence, rather than a product of culture or origin.

The problem with that point of view is that the Israelis and their descendants are again present and therefore have become natives in exactly the same way that the foreign conquerers, invaders and immigrants became native (though they are ALSO descendants so of course NOT actually foreigners).

 

[Shusha]

Your usual slime piece.

Well, that's rich. Considering you just posted what? five photos without comment or context or content in order to slime Israel and Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Your usual slime piece.

Well, that's rich. Considering you just posted what? five photos without comment or context or content in order to slime Israel and Jews.

Israel is sliming itself.

 

[rylah]

Originally posted by Shusha
I disagree with your definition of "native". You seem to imply that those living on the territory are "native" by the fact of their residence. I disagree. In the Americas, for example, those residing on the territory are not natives, but colonists, immigrants and descendants of colonists and immigrants.

The problem is not my definition of native.

The real problem is your inability to come to terms with the fact that the mythological ancestry of ethiopians, Indians and europeans of jewish faith is just that: religious myth.

The arab people who inhabited Palestine when the zionist movement started, in 1880, were the offspring of all the biblical peoples who lived there with the addition of around 15, 20% of immigrants coming from Arabia and a very tiny influx of other peoples, like the Crusaders from Europe, etc, etc... as well as the natural population exchanges that occur in all neighboring regions and countries in the world, like America and Canada/Mexico, China and Mongolia/Russia, South Africa and Zimbabwe/Botswana, Argentina and Chile/Paraguai etc, etc ...

This is the big irony of the entire Israeli/Palestinian conflict:

The real descendants of the ancient Jews who inhabited that region are the same people who are now being confined into ethnic enclaves, murdered, arrested and expelled in the name of Judaism, the religion of their ancestors.

The real "Jews" of Palestine being dehumanized, treated as foreigners in the same historical homeland of their jewish ancestors by a population of converts to Judaism from around the world in the name of the religion of their ancestors.

You can't make this shit up.

First came the Romans, hijacked our religion and claimed they're the New Israel...all while Jews were busy writing their most fundamental works in the Galilee.

Then came the invading Arabian tribes who claimed all Jews were Arab Muslims... while giving all those same Jews who lived in that empire a Yellow Star.

Apparently some sort of identity crisis.
And the recent charade of Bedouins calling themselves "the sea people" is another anecdote of that sort.

 

[admonit]

Originally posted by admonit
What about you? Do her words convince you?


"The core of the conflict remains the denial and rejection that the Jewish people have any right any business being in this land."
"Until you realize that the injustice that needs to be corrected so that there will be justice for Palestine is the very existence of the state of Israel. Only when that injustice is made to go away can there be justice for Palestine. And then you realize that 'Justice for Palestine' is actually a very violent idea. It is about crashing the so called injustice of the existence of the state of Israel."

What I really didn't know was the incredible, mind-boggling "wall paint story".

I knew Palestinians hated their exile and the refugee camps they live in but I was unaware the rejection was so deep.

Today millions of real refugees live in tents. They can only dream about housing "Palestinian refugees" enjoy. Even without paint walls.

 

[Hollie]

Your usual slime piece.

Well, that's rich. Considering you just posted what? five photos without comment or context or content in order to slime Israel and Jews.

Israel is sliming itself.

I can’t imagine what point you believe is served with your juvenile slogans.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Message From A Freedom Fighter: Ahed Tamimi meets Abby Martin