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In 1905 the Census figures Included the Kaza of Jerusalem (which included Abwein, Beit Jala, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Ramallah and Saffa) which stated the Kaza contained a total of 110,200 Ottoman subjects, of whom 67,700 were Muslim, 28,800 Christian and 13,700 Jewish Ottomans. Of course the 1905 census did not include foreigners resident in the Kaza which the Ottomans estimated to be about 3,000 Christian and 21,000 Jewish Europeans\Westerners. The Sanjak of Jerusalem at the time included the Kazas of Hebron, Jaffa, Gaza and Beersheba as well as Jerusalem. The Kazas of Jerusalem and Hebron combined had a total population of over 168,000 so its unclear how the Catholic Encyclopedia source he cites arrives at the figures quoted. My figures come from "Population characteristics of Jerusalem and Hebron Regions according to Ottoman Census of 1905" by U. O. Schmelz in "Ottoman Palestine, 1800-1914: Studies in Economic and Social History." pages 16-47
Wrong again, Jews have been coming back to Israel for 2000 years, including during the Ottoman Empire, when they eventually became a majority in the 1800's. The Arabs are just 20th century invaders and imposters...
My post doesn't dispute anything you posted from the Jewish Encyclopedia. The Jewish population of the city of Jerusalem certainly increased over time until it became the majority. This does not, however, apply to Palestine as a whole. The native population (largely composed of Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians, etc.) gradually adopted the Arabic language, culture and religion in the centuries following the Arab conquests. Actual Arabs from Arabia were always a relatively small minority in Palestine, as were the Turks that followed them as rulers. Both Christianity and Judaism were tolerated by the Arabian Muslims.
Just because there were Jewish communities in the region throughout that time does not give European Zionists the right to colonise the region and dispossess the native population.
Bottom line: Jews kept migrating back to their holy land for 2000 years, as evidenced during the Ottoman Empire and leading up to the 1800's which created a majority in Jerusalem. Since there was NO MUSLIM MAJORITY in Jerusalem as far back as the 1400's, the Arab Muslim claim on it is hogwash, as they are 20th recent century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.
Israel has always been and will always be the Jewish holy land, first and foremost. The Jews that migrated back from Europe in the 1900's were joining their brethren in their ancestral holy land, and did so legally.
Case closed.
Bullshit, no eviction occured, and the Jews that came from Europe simply came to join their brethren who was already there since the 1400's.
Jerusalem was Jewish majority in the 1800's, and this majority arrived in the 1400's. You can bray all you want. Arabs invaded the land just like they did everywhere else. It's what their religion commands them to do.
L' Italia appoggia la risoluzione: deluso Israele"
"Italy supports the resolution, Israel disappointed."
Palestina stato osservatore s dell Onu L Italia appoggia la risoluzione deluso Israele - Corriere.it
In 1905 the Census figures Included the Kaza of Jerusalem (which included Abwein, Beit Jala, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Ramallah and Saffa) which stated the Kaza contained a total of 110,200 Ottoman subjects, of whom 67,700 were Muslim, 28,800 Christian and 13,700 Jewish Ottomans. Of course the 1905 census did not include foreigners resident in the Kaza which the Ottomans estimated to be about 3,000 Christian and 21,000 Jewish Europeans\Westerners. The Sanjak of Jerusalem at the time included the Kazas of Hebron, Jaffa, Gaza and Beersheba as well as Jerusalem. The Kazas of Jerusalem and Hebron combined had a total population of over 168,000 so its unclear how the Catholic Encyclopedia source he cites arrives at the figures quoted. My figures come from "Population characteristics of Jerusalem and Hebron Regions according to Ottoman Census of 1905" by U. O. Schmelz in "Ottoman Palestine, 1800-1914: Studies in Economic and Social History." pages 16-47
Wrong again, Jews have been coming back to Israel for 2000 years, including during the Ottoman Empire, when they eventually became a majority in the 1800's. The Arabs are just 20th century invaders and imposters...
My post doesn't dispute anything you posted from the Jewish Encyclopedia. The Jewish population of the city of Jerusalem certainly increased over time until it became the majority. This does not, however, apply to Palestine as a whole. The native population (largely composed of Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians, etc.) gradually adopted the Arabic language, culture and religion in the centuries following the Arab conquests. Actual Arabs from Arabia were always a relatively small minority in Palestine, as were the Turks that followed them as rulers. Both Christianity and Judaism were tolerated by the Arabian Muslims.
Just because there were Jewish communities in the region throughout that time does not give European Zionists the right to colonise the region and dispossess the native population.
Bottom line: Jews kept migrating back to their holy land for 2000 years, as evidenced during the Ottoman Empire and leading up to the 1800's which created a majority in Jerusalem. Since there was NO MUSLIM MAJORITY in Jerusalem as far back as the 1400's, the Arab Muslim claim on it is hogwash, as they are 20th recent century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.
Israel has always been and will always be the Jewish holy land, first and foremost. The Jews that migrated back from Europe in the 1900's were joining their brethren in their ancestral holy land, and did so legally.
Case closed.
So, it is your contention that there were 16,270 people in the whole of Palestine in 1844. Interesting.
Not really, just another Phoney phail.
maybe you can find were I said that rat boy, or are you LYING again because the truth hurts.
Thanks for posting this Phoney:
"it was evident from these statements that "His Majesty's Government were not free to dispose of Palestine without regard for the wishes and interests of the inhabitants of Palestine,
Cherry picking again freddy boy, after saying that you don't.
here is the paragraph in full
170. With regard to the various statements mentioned in paragraph 168, the above committee considered that it was beyond its scope to express an opinion upon their proper interpretation, and that such opinion could not in any case be properly formed unless consideration had also been given to a number of other statements made during the war. In the opinion of the committee, however, it was evident from these statements that "His Majesty's Government were not free to dispose of Palestine without regard for the wishes and interests of the inhabitants of Palestine, and that these statements must all be taken into account in any attempt to estimate the responsibilities which—upon any interpretation of the correspondence—His Majesty's Government have incurred towards those inhabitants as a result of the correspondence
177. As to the claim that the Palestine Mandate violates Article 22 of the Covenant because the community of Palestine has not been recognized as an independent nation and because the mandatory was given full powers of legislation and administration, it has been rightly pointed out by the Peel Commission:" (a) That the provisional recognition of certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire as independent nations is permissible; the words are can be provisionally recognized, not 'will' or 'shall';
" (b) That the penultimate paragraph of Article 22 prescribes that the degree of authority to be exercised by the mandatory shall be defined, at need, by the Council of the League;
" (c) That the acceptance by the Allied Powers and the United States of the policy of the Ball-four Declaration made it clear from the beginning that Palestine would have been treated differently from Syria and Iraq, and that this difference of treatment was confirmed by the Supreme Council in the Treaty of Sevres and by the Council of the League in sanctioning the Mandate."154/
That notwithstanding the above, British reiterated that:
"it was evident from these statements that "His Majesty's Government were not free to dispose of Palestine without regard for the wishes and interests of the inhabitants of Palestine..."
So what Italians support the Palestinians, who are Christians.
In 1905 the Census figures Included the Kaza of Jerusalem (which included Abwein, Beit Jala, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Ramallah and Saffa) which stated the Kaza contained a total of 110,200 Ottoman subjects, of whom 67,700 were Muslim, 28,800 Christian and 13,700 Jewish Ottomans. Of course the 1905 census did not include foreigners resident in the Kaza which the Ottomans estimated to be about 3,000 Christian and 21,000 Jewish Europeans\Westerners. The Sanjak of Jerusalem at the time included the Kazas of Hebron, Jaffa, Gaza and Beersheba as well as Jerusalem. The Kazas of Jerusalem and Hebron combined had a total population of over 168,000 so its unclear how the Catholic Encyclopedia source he cites arrives at the figures quoted. My figures come from "Population characteristics of Jerusalem and Hebron Regions according to Ottoman Census of 1905" by U. O. Schmelz in "Ottoman Palestine, 1800-1914: Studies in Economic and Social History." pages 16-47
Wrong again, Jews have been coming back to Israel for 2000 years, including during the Ottoman Empire, when they eventually became a majority in the 1800's. The Arabs are just 20th century invaders and imposters...
My post doesn't dispute anything you posted from the Jewish Encyclopedia. The Jewish population of the city of Jerusalem certainly increased over time until it became the majority. This does not, however, apply to Palestine as a whole. The native population (largely composed of Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians, etc.) gradually adopted the Arabic language, culture and religion in the centuries following the Arab conquests. Actual Arabs from Arabia were always a relatively small minority in Palestine, as were the Turks that followed them as rulers. Both Christianity and Judaism were tolerated by the Arabian Muslims.
Just because there were Jewish communities in the region throughout that time does not give European Zionists the right to colonise the region and dispossess the native population.
Bottom line: Jews kept migrating back to their holy land for 2000 years, as evidenced during the Ottoman Empire and leading up to the 1800's which created a majority in Jerusalem. Since there was NO MUSLIM MAJORITY in Jerusalem as far back as the 1400's, the Arab Muslim claim on it is hogwash, as they are 20th recent century invaders from neighboring Arab lands.
Israel has always been and will always be the Jewish holy land, first and foremost. The Jews that migrated back from Europe in the 1900's were joining their brethren in their ancestral holy land, and did so legally.
Case closed.
The European Jews colonized Palestine intending to evict the rightful inhabitants with the help of the British.
The Palestinians continue to hold on and their numbers are increasing at a greater rate than the Jewish population. It's not over until the fat lady sings.
Bullshit, no eviction occured, and the Jews that came from Europe simply came to join their brethren who was already there since the 1400's.
Jerusalem was Jewish majority in the 1800's, and this majority arrived in the 1400's. You can bray all you want. Arabs invaded the land just like they did everywhere else. It's what their religion commands them to do.
Of course eviction occurred. That's why Palestinians are in refugee camps today. There were no Jews in Palestine before 1850 to speak of, only a handful.
AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921. AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE. I.--THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR.
"The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921
Just the facts Ruddy. The only invasion was the European Jew invasion.
Bullshit, no eviction occured, and the Jews that came from Europe simply came to join their brethren who was already there since the 1400's.
Jerusalem was Jewish majority in the 1800's, and this majority arrived in the 1400's. You can bray all you want. Arabs invaded the land just like they did everywhere else. It's what their religion commands them to do.
Well, you have to wonder if some guy from Poland had any connection to Jerusalem in the 1920s.
Bullshit, no eviction occured, and the Jews that came from Europe simply came to join their brethren who was already there since the 1400's.
Jerusalem was Jewish majority in the 1800's, and this majority arrived in the 1400's. You can bray all you want. Arabs invaded the land just like they did everywhere else. It's what their religion commands them to do.
Bray all you want, Jerusalem is not Palestine and Islam spread in Palestine by voluntary conversion.
