Palin Children Thread.

[Si modo]

HuffPo is a legitimate news outlet, Divey, Lefty as it can be, but nonetheless, a news outlet. It is not some basement dweller's workproduct.

The HuffPo started out as a blog and then becomes a journalistic site because they started calling themselves one.

Who knew that's all it took?

It still contains a number of blog and OpEds. It seems to me that - just like some people cannot tell the difference between a news show and a comment show, they also cannot tell the difference between a news article written by a reporter and a blog or OpEd written by someone with no journalistic integrity, and a clear agenda.

Too true. Again, the failure of our education system for not stressing critical thought and a sad reflection on so many who do not value it.

 

[WillowTree]

How about Sarah Palins family attending that racist church for twenty years?

Yep, you have a point there. If, and I say if Palin made a "racist" comment it doesn't come close to that racist church obie wan sat in for 20 years. He tries to tell us he was deaf as a doorknob too but I don't believe him do you?

 

[Madeline]

Google this @ site:usmessageboard.com
Sarah Palin's Sacred Baby Syndrome


Alternatively you can google some keywords from your post and find it...but I tried that and found nothing.

All I got is her thread from today: http://www.usmessageboard.com/announcements-and-feedback/142987-the-sacred-baby-thread.html

And this:

Si modo, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Go to google. Put in this search term:

site:usmessageboard.com "Sarah Palin's Sacred Baby Syndrome"

Don't click on the main links. Instead, after the text there will be a small link that says "cached". Click on that one. It will bring from the google memory banks basically a screen shot of each page. You can't click on anything in the cache though, as that will take you away from the google cache and try to access the usmessageboard site for that link. Which has been closed. You have to hit back and go on to the next google cache to peruse the thread.

That worked! Thankies Ravi and Radio.

 

[CMike]

I never said I had proof...you mix me up with someone else. I simply said I don't believe him.

None of your dancing around takes away from the fact that you wrote porn about Obama's daughters...you piece of shit.

Yeah, wrote it in jest, as everybody up here knows.......It fully exposed

Or were you lying to me in private .........?

Jest or not, porn is porn. You wrote porn about children.

You are beyond suck.

So? Attacking children is now ok according to you sad fuckers.

 

[Sheldon]

The point is, Palin wants to be POTUS, Trajan. She whores out these kids of hers all over the media and then when one acts the fool we all have to pretend she's still Mother Of The Year?

Fuck that. She's raising a bigot and I find that abhorent.

Mamma Grizzly is a fuck up as a parent...that is the point.

It's unfair to make a judgment on a teenager being a bigot, and by extension the parent's parenting skills, if--in the middle of an internet spat--the teen calls someone who's ripping on her family a faggot.

I've seen you throw around the **** slur against some female posters on here, so by your own measure that must mean you're a woman-hating bigot.

If I remember right, you started another thread awhile back about her kids, in the FZ I think, and you also took the time to make that video about "Palin steak". What you're doing with threads like these is the USMB equivalent of those 501 (C) attack ads that are nothing more than slimy ad homs that hit outside of politics.

Bashing a politician's or public figure's family or personal life, even if their life and family is visible, is the dregs of discourse... if it can even be called that. It's like the rules here; you can go after family if that person brings it up... but even though it's allowed I still think it's tacky and smarmy to go after family anyways. It shows a lack of ammo from the attacker, that they have to stoop to that level.

If her highly-visible and publicized political views are a threat to this country, go after her politics. But hitting outside of her politics and going after her as a mom says more about what type of person you are than what type of parent she is.

Self-awareness is for winners, and you're looking the bitter fool with this Palin obsession. For real. You're the mirror version of USArmyFail when it comes to Palin. Think about it.

I do appreciate the time and energy you dedicate to defending Palin, Sheldon. It's very appealing at first blush, this cry to "leave the kids alone", except that........

Palin has leveraged her oldest child's teen pregnancy into some sort of martyrdom and Bristol is now a public figure in her own right. The search phrase "bristol palin magazine interviews" returns about 6,080,000 results on Google. She's a reality tv star and has been on the covers of various magazines. The Palins cannot shove Bristol out into the limelight as a spokesmodel for safe sex (?) or any other high moral principle and then demand that all discussion of hypocrisy on her part will remain unspoken of.

Palin has also leveraged her youngest child as grounds for claiming she has a special claim to extraordinary consideration as a mother that the parents of normal, healthy children do not share. We did discuss this on a thread the Mod Squad has pulled, though I still dunno why. Once again, the hypocrisy thing: if you claim the moral high ground on some biographic basis and your private life reveals you do not adhere to the principles you claim to embody, that is discussion-worthy.

Palin makes so many references to her children and her motherhood, it's hard to keep track of them all. How many times has she said the phrase "Momma Grizzlies" alone? She cannot bang on her reproductive talents and then expect her parenting skills are beyond the pale by those who find fault with her, as a politican. And BTW, this is something Obama (nor any other politican I can think of) has ever done...."vote for me, I'm a great Mom" is unique to the Palin playbook, IMO.

Calling a woman a "****" is not a verbal act that reveals anyone's anti-woman bigotry IMO. You wanna imbue that word with more power than it deserves. Calling a youngster a "f*ggot", on the other hand, does reveal a homophobic bias. You may not like that these two are not the same egregious moral lapses, but that's life, Sheldon.

Relying on the USMB's own TOS for a logical reason why Palin's performance as a parent cannot be discussed is also a fail. Palin is not a USMB member -- she is a public figure. She wants to be POTUS and more'n a few people support her. She's a threat to this country and the very deceitful way she claims to be morally superior whilst deflecting any criticism of her moral lapses is one of the reasons I so despise her -- I find this woman to be canny but not smart, manipulative but not persuasive, jingoistic but not patriotic, etc.

Palin weaves her personal life and back story into her politics, Sheldon. She opposes abortion rights about as vehemently as it is possible to do -- more than most RCC clergy do -- and then waves her baby in the air. She opposes sex education in public schools and then shoves her single mom daughter into the limelight, and sees nothing at all hypocritical about allowing her to do up ads for condoms with a poster child for promiscuity. She attacks Obama as a "politican" and talks endlessly about how much she hates government -- how she'd rather be doing just about anything with her kids. Then she leaves the kids and runs around the country on a million dollar speaking tour, etc.

There's no way to have a full and frank discussion about Palin's suitability to serve as POTUS without drawing on examples of her hypocrisy, because that data is what I think most people are missing...and IMO, Palin is all about concealing her real motives and acts from public view whilst she dazzles the stupid with bullshit.

More smurf vomit from Blue's Clueless.

I stopped reading after the second paragraph, after it became obvious that whole wall of text is just you trying to hoodwink yourself into thinking you have a righteous position here.

You don't. Try to justify your nonesense all you want, it'll only make you look like a clueless fool even more. Step back, look at the sheer length of that post, and realize you have a problem. It's the first step.

 

[Tank]

How about that time Sarah Palin said that Obama was a "light skinned" African-American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one"?

 

[Synthaholic]

It's unfair to make a judgment on a teenager being a bigot, and by extension the parent's parenting skills, if--in the middle of an internet spat--the teen calls someone who's ripping on her family a faggot.

I've seen you throw around the **** slur against some female posters on here, so by your own measure that must mean you're a woman-hating bigot.

If I remember right, you started another thread awhile back about her kids, in the FZ I think, and you also took the time to make that video about "Palin steak". What you're doing with threads like these is the USMB equivalent of those 501 (C) attack ads that are nothing more than slimy ad homs that hit outside of politics.

Bashing a politician's or public figure's family or personal life, even if their life and family is visible, is the dregs of discourse... if it can even be called that. It's like the rules here; you can go after family if that person brings it up... but even though it's allowed I still think it's tacky and smarmy to go after family anyways. It shows a lack of ammo from the attacker, that they have to stoop to that level.

If her highly-visible and publicized political views are a threat to this country, go after her politics. But hitting outside of her politics and going after her as a mom says more about what type of person you are than what type of parent she is.

Self-awareness is for winners, and you're looking the bitter fool with this Palin obsession. For real. You're the mirror version of USArmyFail when it comes to Palin. Think about it.

I do appreciate the time and energy you dedicate to defending Palin, Sheldon. It's very appealing at first blush, this cry to "leave the kids alone", except that........

Palin has leveraged her oldest child's teen pregnancy into some sort of martyrdom and Bristol is now a public figure in her own right. The search phrase "bristol palin magazine interviews" returns about 6,080,000 results on Google. She's a reality tv star and has been on the covers of various magazines. The Palins cannot shove Bristol out into the limelight as a spokesmodel for safe sex (?) or any other high moral principle and then demand that all discussion of hypocrisy on her part will remain unspoken of.

Palin has also leveraged her youngest child as grounds for claiming she has a special claim to extraordinary consideration as a mother that the parents of normal, healthy children do not share. We did discuss this on a thread the Mod Squad has pulled, though I still dunno why. Once again, the hypocrisy thing: if you claim the moral high ground on some biographic basis and your private life reveals you do not adhere to the principles you claim to embody, that is discussion-worthy.

Palin makes so many references to her children and her motherhood, it's hard to keep track of them all. How many times has she said the phrase "Momma Grizzlies" alone? She cannot bang on her reproductive talents and then expect her parenting skills are beyond the pale by those who find fault with her, as a politican. And BTW, this is something Obama (nor any other politican I can think of) has ever done...."vote for me, I'm a great Mom" is unique to the Palin playbook, IMO.

Calling a woman a "****" is not a verbal act that reveals anyone's anti-woman bigotry IMO. You wanna imbue that word with more power than it deserves. Calling a youngster a "f*ggot", on the other hand, does reveal a homophobic bias. You may not like that these two are not the same egregious moral lapses, but that's life, Sheldon.

Relying on the USMB's own TOS for a logical reason why Palin's performance as a parent cannot be discussed is also a fail. Palin is not a USMB member -- she is a public figure. She wants to be POTUS and more'n a few people support her. She's a threat to this country and the very deceitful way she claims to be morally superior whilst deflecting any criticism of her moral lapses is one of the reasons I so despise her -- I find this woman to be canny but not smart, manipulative but not persuasive, jingoistic but not patriotic, etc.

Palin weaves her personal life and back story into her politics, Sheldon. She opposes abortion rights about as vehemently as it is possible to do -- more than most RCC clergy do -- and then waves her baby in the air. She opposes sex education in public schools and then shoves her single mom daughter into the limelight, and sees nothing at all hypocritical about allowing her to do up ads for condoms with a poster child for promiscuity. She attacks Obama as a "politican" and talks endlessly about how much she hates government -- how she'd rather be doing just about anything with her kids. Then she leaves the kids and runs around the country on a million dollar speaking tour, etc.

There's no way to have a full and frank discussion about Palin's suitability to serve as POTUS without drawing on examples of her hypocrisy, because that data is what I think most people are missing...and IMO, Palin is all about concealing her real motives and acts from public view whilst she dazzles the stupid with bullshit.

More smurf vomit from Blue's Clueless.

I stopped reading after the second paragraph, after it became obvious that whole wall of text is just you trying to hoodwink yourself into thinking you have a righteous position here.

You don't. Try to justify your nonesense all you want, it'll only make you look like a clueless fool even more. Step back, look at the sheer length of that post, and realize you have a problem. It's the first step.

Yeah, Madeline - you have to dumb it down for the Rightwing on this board.

Talk in sound bites: that's what they are used to hearing from their 'leaders'.

 

[Madeline]

Sheldon is not stupid. I'm surprised he'd respond with "my attention span is not long enough to digest your remarks". That's not his usual MO.

 

[DiveCon]

Sheldon is not stupid. I'm surprised he'd respond with "my attention span is not long enough to digest your remarks". That's not his usual MO.

coming from someone that thinks the puffypost is a legit news source????

 

[Madeline]

Sheldon is not stupid. I'm surprised he'd respond with "my attention span is not long enough to digest your remarks". That's not his usual MO.

coming from someone that thinks the puffypost is a legit news source????

It is, Divey. But so is the Tallahassee Democrat and Chronicle and more yellow journalism you never saw in your life. Still, it has a plant, employs reporters and editors and is a media outlet.

By contrast, a blog is the (usually) unpaid, unsupervised, unedited work of a single person who feels the need to exhibit every stray thought they have to the world.

 

[DiveCon]

Sheldon is not stupid. I'm surprised he'd respond with "my attention span is not long enough to digest your remarks". That's not his usual MO.

coming from someone that thinks the puffypost is a legit news source????

It is, Divey. But so is the Tallahassee Democrat and Chronicle and more yellow journalism you never saw in your life. Still, it has a plant, employs reporters and editors and is a media outlet.

By contrast, a blog is the (usually) unpaid, unsupervised, unedited work of a single person who feels the need to exhibit every stray thought they have to the world.

really?
and just where is this "plant" located?
and what exactly does this "plant" manufacture?

 

[Madeline]

coming from someone that thinks the puffypost is a legit news source????

It is, Divey. But so is the Tallahassee Democrat and Chronicle and more yellow journalism you never saw in your life. Still, it has a plant, employs reporters and editors and is a media outlet.

By contrast, a blog is the (usually) unpaid, unsupervised, unedited work of a single person who feels the need to exhibit every stray thought they have to the world.

really?
and just where is this "plant" located?
and what exactly does this "plant" manufacture?

The plant is in Tallahassee, Florida.

It makes newspapers.

 

[DiveCon]

It is, Divey. But so is the Tallahassee Democrat and Chronicle and more yellow journalism you never saw in your life. Still, it has a plant, employs reporters and editors and is a media outlet.

By contrast, a blog is the (usually) unpaid, unsupervised, unedited work of a single person who feels the need to exhibit every stray thought they have to the world.

really?
and just where is this "plant" located?
and what exactly does this "plant" manufacture?

The plant is in Tallahassee, Florida.

It makes newspapers.

puffypost?

 

[tinydancer]

Yes, true. Todd Palin's family has some Native blood and are entitled to certain benefits because of it. I dun think this qualifies her as a friend to Native peoples or to any people of color, and it doesn't immunize her from criticism for the racial rhetoric she spews.

for those of us that dont throw fits of rage at every word the woman utters, would you please show some proof of her "racial" remarks that you find so offensive

PS: i dont know if anyone pointed this out to you as i didnt read every page of this thread, but Willow is NOT the 16 year old, that's Piper

Willow is 16, Divey. Track was born in 1989 and Trig in 2008; Bristol was born in 1990, Willow in 1994 and Piper in 2001.

Sarah Palin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW, facebook has evidentially received complaints about Willow's use of homophobic slurs and has responded publically.....

The social network that is home to 500 million users addresses Willow’s use of the words ‘f**got’ and calling someone ‘gay’ while defending her mother!

Facebook is finally responding to Willow Palin’s homophobic slurs on Nov. 14 when she called another user “gay” and a “f**got” while defending her family’s new show, Sarah Palin’s Alaska! In a letter to HollywoodLife a Facebook spokesperson said, “We want Facebook to be a place where people can openly discuss issues and express their views, while respecting the rights and feelings of others.”

They went on to note, “Facebook is highly self-regulating, and people can and do report content that they find questionable or offensive. We take our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities very seriously and react quickly to reports of content and behavior that violate our policies. Specifically, we’re sensitive to content that singles out private individuals, or that includes pornography, direct statements of hate, or actionable threats of violence.”

This makes it clear Willow’s actions, however ill advised, will not be landing the 16-year-old in any sort of serious trouble. We are sure mom Sarah Palin is very relieved to hear that!

Facebook Responds To Willow Palin’s Homophobic Remarks — Express Your Views But Respect The Feelings Of Others! Exclusive! Hollywood Life

As for Palin's racially divisive remarks, let's see.....

Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is ?Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean.? | The LA Progressive

Sarah Palin ended our conversation when she learned I was Black | The LA Progressive

New Statesman - Sarah Palin to racist DJ: “Don’t retreat . . . reload!”

Palin's Racist Remark: "I Don't Mess With Black Men" | Philadelphia Independent Media Center

NAACP vs. Tea Party: Racism Debate Heats Up as Sarah Palin Joins the Fray - ABC News

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: Governor Palin's Reading List

(VIDEO) Sarah Palin Accuses Barack And Michelle Obama Of Being Racist, And She’s 100% Right… A Ct Patriot's Blog

Sarah Palin Takes to Twitter to Oppose Ground Zero Mosque - ABC News

But it is so much more than this list of her remarks (which could have been much longer), Divey. It's the undercurrent in her book "Going Rogue". It's her incessant chant of "standing up for real Americans". It's her jingoism....blacks and other people of color never fare well when that tide rises.

Dear lord Madeline,

Tell me you understand that she is married to Todd Palin who is a minority persons. He's 1/4 Yu pik for crying out loud.


All her children are now descendants of first nations. Honest to goodness, hate for policies if you wish, but not for bullshit.

yours,
td

 

[tinydancer]

I came to this board only recently. Do people here know that David Axlerod's son became a Huff Po employee upon graduating from I think it was a school of journalism in Colorado?

So Axelrod can pull the strings right from the WH at Huff Po.

 

[PixieStix]

A Wisconsin man was held on Wednesday for holding police at bay for 15 hours after shooting out his television in a rage over Bristol Palin's performance on TV's "Dancing with the Stars."

The standoff in the central Wisconsin town of Vermont ended peacefully Tuesday with the arrest of Steven Cowan, 67, on charges of reckless endangerment.

According to a criminal complaint, Cowan shouted an expletive, took out a shotgun and shot into his television during an airing of the popular reality show.

The object of his ire was Bristol Palin, a contestant on the popular ABC show and the daughter of former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Cowan didn't consider her a good dancer, Cowan's wife, Janice, told authorities, according to the complaint.

Fearing that she might be the next target, Janice Cowan went to the local police department and the standoff ensued.

Other viewers of the show voted to promote Palin into the next round.

Wisconsin man held over TV rage | Reuters

Bristol Palin was propositioned by "Dancing with the Stars" rival Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino of "Jersey Shore" fame backstage, who went so far as to whip out some condoms.

But it wasn't for real -- it was a public service announcement to promote safe sex.

In the commercial, Palin -- whose mother Sarah was the last Republican vice presidential candidate and is a leader of the conservative Tea Party movement -- rebuffs The Situation's advances, saying, "I avoid situations."

The spotlight fell on Bristol Palin during the 2008 presidential campaign when her teen-age pregnancy became known. The single mother now advocates sexual abstinence.

Palin and The Situation made the ad for the Candie's Foundation, whose goal is to reduce teen pregnancy. Palin became an ambassador for the organization last year.

In the ad, The Situation, who gained fame in MTV's reality show "Jersey Shore," bumps into Palin backstage and starts hitting on her.

Bristol Palin, The Situation team up in safe-sex ad | Reuters

Sarah Palin's 16-year-old daughter Willow Palin used multiple homophobic slurs -- including the word f**got -- to attack a Facebook user who criticized her mom's new reality show .... TMZ has learned.

During the premiere of "Sarah Palin's Alaska" Sunday night -- a boy named Tre who went to school with the Palin kids wrote a status update that read, "Sarah Palin's Alaska, is failing so hard right now."

The comment sparked an intense response from Willow -- who replied on the boy's wall, "Haha your so gay. I have no idea who you are, But what I've seen pictures of, your disgusting ... My sister had a kid and is still hot."

Willow followed up that comment with another that read, "Tre stfu. Your such a f**got."

Bristol Palin also got in on the smacktalk -- writing a message to Tre saying, "You're running your mouth just to talk sh*t."

Eventually, a message board war erupted -- and Bristol took aim at another person named Jon -- saying, "You'll be as successful as my baby daddy, And actually I do work my ass off. I've been a single mom for the last two years."

After more users began to gang up on the Palins, Willow dropped another message that read, "Sorry that you guys are all jealous of my families success and you guys aren't goin to go anywhere with your lives."

Sources connected to the Palin family tell us ... Willow normally doesn't use this type of language, but she felt like she was being attacked along with her family. The source added it was the baby bear defending Mama Grizzly.

Willow Palin Facebook -- Sarah Palin's Daughter Uses Homophobic Slurs | TMZ.com

I scarcely know where to begin.........

Your thoughts?

This OP is simply disgusting and frankly, stupid. And a hodgepodge of personal attacks on people or children somehow related to Palin. I tell you what Madeline, How about you attack Palin on policy and see how that works for ya?

 

[tinydancer]

How about that time Sarah Palin said that Obama was a "light skinned" African-American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one"?

lol

it appears Harry can get away with this shit....

Good show.

 

[PixieStix]

I'm the most bumfuddled by the man who shot his tv. Seriously? After 67 years, this is the one thing in the mass media you cannot abide?

And I thought I hated Palin......

If you HATE Palin, then she OWNS YOU

 

[AllieBaba]

I do appreciate the time and energy you dedicate to defending Palin, Sheldon. It's very appealing at first blush, this cry to "leave the kids alone", except that........

Palin has leveraged her oldest child's teen pregnancy into some sort of martyrdom and Bristol is now a public figure in her own right. The search phrase "bristol palin magazine interviews" returns about 6,080,000 results on Google. She's a reality tv star and has been on the covers of various magazines. The Palins cannot shove Bristol out into the limelight as a spokesmodel for safe sex (?) or any other high moral principle and then demand that all discussion of hypocrisy on her part will remain unspoken of.

Palin has also leveraged her youngest child as grounds for claiming she has a special claim to extraordinary consideration as a mother that the parents of normal, healthy children do not share. We did discuss this on a thread the Mod Squad has pulled, though I still dunno why. Once again, the hypocrisy thing: if you claim the moral high ground on some biographic basis and your private life reveals you do not adhere to the principles you claim to embody, that is discussion-worthy.

Palin makes so many references to her children and her motherhood, it's hard to keep track of them all. How many times has she said the phrase "Momma Grizzlies" alone? She cannot bang on her reproductive talents and then expect her parenting skills are beyond the pale by those who find fault with her, as a politican. And BTW, this is something Obama (nor any other politican I can think of) has ever done...."vote for me, I'm a great Mom" is unique to the Palin playbook, IMO.

Calling a woman a "****" is not a verbal act that reveals anyone's anti-woman bigotry IMO. You wanna imbue that word with more power than it deserves. Calling a youngster a "f*ggot", on the other hand, does reveal a homophobic bias. You may not like that these two are not the same egregious moral lapses, but that's life, Sheldon.

Relying on the USMB's own TOS for a logical reason why Palin's performance as a parent cannot be discussed is also a fail. Palin is not a USMB member -- she is a public figure. She wants to be POTUS and more'n a few people support her. She's a threat to this country and the very deceitful way she claims to be morally superior whilst deflecting any criticism of her moral lapses is one of the reasons I so despise her -- I find this woman to be canny but not smart, manipulative but not persuasive, jingoistic but not patriotic, etc.

Palin weaves her personal life and back story into her politics, Sheldon. She opposes abortion rights about as vehemently as it is possible to do -- more than most RCC clergy do -- and then waves her baby in the air. She opposes sex education in public schools and then shoves her single mom daughter into the limelight, and sees nothing at all hypocritical about allowing her to do up ads for condoms with a poster child for promiscuity. She attacks Obama as a "politican" and talks endlessly about how much she hates government -- how she'd rather be doing just about anything with her kids. Then she leaves the kids and runs around the country on a million dollar speaking tour, etc.

There's no way to have a full and frank discussion about Palin's suitability to serve as POTUS without drawing on examples of her hypocrisy, because that data is what I think most people are missing...and IMO, Palin is all about concealing her real motives and acts from public view whilst she dazzles the stupid with bullshit.

More smurf vomit from Blue's Clueless.

I stopped reading after the second paragraph, after it became obvious that whole wall of text is just you trying to hoodwink yourself into thinking you have a righteous position here.

You don't. Try to justify your nonesense all you want, it'll only make you look like a clueless fool even more. Step back, look at the sheer length of that post, and realize you have a problem. It's the first step.

Yeah, Madeline - you have to dumb it down for the Rightwing on this board.

Talk in sound bites: that's what they are used to hearing from their 'leaders'.

In that entire rant she provided not one single example, an iota of evidence, that anything that she said is true. No links, no quotes. Sorry, the right doesn't just go on the vile and hateful ramblings of the left, who have proved again and again that not only are the liars, but that they don't even understand the concept of truth.

Madeline's primary gripe with Palin is now and always has been that she is a professional woman who dares to have children, and who (gasp) doesn't hide those children away or refuse to talk about them. I have yet to meet a mother who doesn't love to talk about her kids, and the more kids you have, the more you talk about them. You make decisions based upon them, your politics are influenced by them, and that irritates Madeline no end. She not only hates children (you'll have to take my word for it, the way you have to take Madeline's word for her vile spewings) but even more, she hates mothers who leave the house to pursue careers.

 

[Synthaholic]

The point is, Palin wants to be POTUS, Trajan. She whores out these kids of hers all over the media and then when one acts the fool we all have to pretend she's still Mother Of The Year?

Fuck that. She's raising a bigot and I find that abhorent.

Mamma Grizzly is a fuck up as a parent...that is the point.

It's unfair to make a judgment on a teenager being a bigot, and by extension the parent's parenting skills, if--in the middle of an internet spat--the teen calls someone who's ripping on her family a faggot.

I've seen you throw around the **** slur against some female posters on here, so by your own measure that must mean you're a woman-hating bigot.

If I remember right, you started another thread awhile back about her kids, in the FZ I think, and you also took the time to make that video about "Palin steak". What you're doing with threads like these is the USMB equivalent of those 501 (C) attack ads that are nothing more than slimy ad homs that hit outside of politics.

Bashing a politician's or public figure's family or personal life, even if their life and family is visible, is the dregs of discourse... if it can even be called that. It's like the rules here; you can go after family if that person brings it up... but even though it's allowed I still think it's tacky and smarmy to go after family anyways. It shows a lack of ammo from the attacker, that they have to stoop to that level.

If her highly-visible and publicized political views are a threat to this country, go after her politics. But hitting outside of her politics and going after her as a mom says more about what type of person you are than what type of parent she is.

Self-awareness is for winners, and you're looking the bitter fool with this Palin obsession. For real. You're the mirror version of USArmyFail when it comes to Palin. Think about it.

I do appreciate the time and energy you dedicate to defending Palin, Sheldon. It's very appealing at first blush, this cry to "leave the kids alone", except that........

Palin has leveraged her oldest child's teen pregnancy into some sort of martyrdom and Bristol is now a public figure in her own right. The search phrase "bristol palin magazine interviews" returns about 6,080,000 results on Google. She's a reality tv star and has been on the covers of various magazines. The Palins cannot shove Bristol out into the limelight as a spokesmodel for safe sex (?) or any other high moral principle and then demand that all discussion of hypocrisy on her part will remain unspoken of.

Palin has also leveraged her youngest child as grounds for claiming she has a special claim to extraordinary consideration as a mother that the parents of normal, healthy children do not share. We did discuss this on a thread the Mod Squad has pulled, though I still dunno why. Once again, the hypocrisy thing: if you claim the moral high ground on some biographic basis and your private life reveals you do not adhere to the principles you claim to embody, that is discussion-worthy.

Palin makes so many references to her children and her motherhood, it's hard to keep track of them all. How many times has she said the phrase "Momma Grizzlies" alone? She cannot bang on her reproductive talents and then expect her parenting skills are beyond the pale by those who find fault with her, as a politican. And BTW, this is something Obama (nor any other politican I can think of) has ever done...."vote for me, I'm a great Mom" is unique to the Palin playbook, IMO.

Calling a woman a "****" is not a verbal act that reveals anyone's anti-woman bigotry IMO. You wanna imbue that word with more power than it deserves. Calling a youngster a "f*ggot", on the other hand, does reveal a homophobic bias. You may not like that these two are not the same egregious moral lapses, but that's life, Sheldon.

Relying on the USMB's own TOS for a logical reason why Palin's performance as a parent cannot be discussed is also a fail. Palin is not a USMB member -- she is a public figure. She wants to be POTUS and more'n a few people support her. She's a threat to this country and the very deceitful way she claims to be morally superior whilst deflecting any criticism of her moral lapses is one of the reasons I so despise her -- I find this woman to be canny but not smart, manipulative but not persuasive, jingoistic but not patriotic, etc.

Palin weaves her personal life and back story into her politics, Sheldon. She opposes abortion rights about as vehemently as it is possible to do -- more than most RCC clergy do -- and then waves her baby in the air. She opposes sex education in public schools and then shoves her single mom daughter into the limelight, and sees nothing at all hypocritical about allowing her to do up ads for condoms with a poster child for promiscuity. She attacks Obama as a "politican" and talks endlessly about how much she hates government -- how she'd rather be doing just about anything with her kids. Then she leaves the kids and runs around the country on a million dollar speaking tour, etc.

There's no way to have a full and frank discussion about Palin's suitability to serve as POTUS without drawing on examples of her hypocrisy, because that data is what I think most people are missing...and IMO, Palin is all about concealing her real motives and acts from public view whilst she dazzles the stupid with bullshit.

Excellent post!