Patriotism: Ended by Progressives

[PoliticalChic]

Now suddenly the rugged individualist Right are a bunch of Socialists.

The Right are always on both sides of any issue depending on which way the wind blows at the moment.

Wait....aren't you the dolt who used to have George Bernard Shaw in your sig line....until I proved that he was a Nazi supporter and wanted to exterminate those he didn't agree with?


Back for further education?

Good.

Actually, if you weren't such a dolt you would see that Sahw is still in my sig, and you would have realized that you failed miserably in your attempt to slander Shaw. You only proved your complete ignorance which allowed you to be deceived by your Right-wingnut sources because you had no idea what Shawvian Eugenics was. Just to remind you again if you try to take Shaw mocking Eugenicists out of context again, Shawvian Eugenics is the selective mating based on the choice of who the WOMAN selects to mate with. It has nothing to do with the state or killing anyone.[/QUOTE


1. Actually, if you weren't such a dolt you would see that Sahw (sic)..."

(psst.....check your spelling before you assign 'dolt' to me.)




2. "....you failed miserably in your attempt to slander Shaw. You only proved your complete ignorance which allowed you to be deceived by your Right-wingnut sources..."



Spanking coming right up:

a. "The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.

"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems."
Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist


b.And, from said documentary:

"In Britain, George Bernard Shaw supported Hitler in the mass media, showing an article entitled "Shaw Heaps Praise on the Dictators....Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin." The Left supported Hitler because they knew he would kill."

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3lBdyFvPps]Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw In His Own Words - YouTube[/ame]

a. In fact, Eichmann testified that Zyklon B was a humane gas....the same words as Shaw.




So that you don't embarrass yourself further, here is the entire documentary:

- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop






And, in the future, remember this simple rule: never doubt me.

 

[Plasmaball]

"so we can ignore it."


Pretty much the way you dealt with education, huh?

Its how I deal with fake intellectuals. Like you

There is only one appropriate response to your post:

Don't feel sad, don't feel blue, Frankenstein was ugly too.

Well that's typical of you. Shot your wad in the op and leave nothing for the rest of the thread.

 

[norwegen]

7. Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law of the land, the Constitution, is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke).

Excellent OP, PC, as usual.

To avoid confusion in point 7, though, I would stress that foundations of civil government are immutable, and that change otherwise is as much natural as gradual.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Its how I deal with fake intellectuals. Like you

There is only one appropriate response to your post:

Don't feel sad, don't feel blue, Frankenstein was ugly too.

Well that's typical of you. Shot your wad in the op and leave nothing for the rest of the thread.

Back for more?

Roses are red violets are blue, God made me pretty, what happened to you?

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law of the land, the Constitution, is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke).

Excellent OP, PC, as usual.

To avoid confusion in point 7, though, I would stress that foundations of civil government are immutable, and that change otherwise is as much natural as gradual.

Thank you, wedgie....

Remember: Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.



A Buddhist walks up to a hot-dog stand and says, "Make me one with everything". He then pays the vendor and asks for his change. The vendor says, "change comes from within".

 

[boilermaker55]

Did you pull out a thesaurus today and you are trying to prove how fake intelligent you are?
Everything you posted is about you and your so-called fake patriotism.
Speak of a moron and you have no one to look at but yourself.

Typical neo-con.
Beat your chest loudly and yell at the top of your lungs how patriotic you are yet in reality you are far from anything you profess.

1. Before there is patriotism, there must be membership in a nation-state, a sense of citizenship.

Social membership is largely based on language, custom, geography and a legal system. Add to that, the idea of a common interest in defense.
Of course, in some versions, other aspects may be present, such as religion, race, or obedience to a particular monarch.




2. The simplest patriotism is a kind of neighborliness, the patriotism of the village, or even the city street. In fact, it is this level of patriotism that builds a national identity.
“To love the little platoon we belong to in society, is the first principle (the germ as it were) of public affections. It is the first link in the series by which we proceed toward a love to our country and to mankind.”
Burke," "Reflections on the Revolution in France."

3. 'By joining clubs and societies, by forming teams, troupes, and competitions, by acquiring sociable hobbies, and outgoing modes of entertainment, people come to feel that they and their neighbors belong together, and this 'belonging' has more importance, in times of emergency, than any private difference in matters of religion or family life."
Scruton, "The West and the Rest,"p. 49.

4. Charles Murray, in "Coming Apart," refers to the social capital of the community, which includes volunteering, charity, civic participation, religious participation…'and America produced community life unlike anyplace else in the world.'






The ascendancy of Liberal politics reduces the need for belonging and social relationships, by teaching that it is big government that will perform all of the functions that private groups did.
Of course, this denies the importance of personal contact.

a. In "Bowling Alone: America's Declining Social Capital," (1995) Robert Putnam surveys the decline of "social capital" in the United States of America since 1950. He has described the reduction in all the forms of in-person social intercourse upon which Americans used to found, educate, and enrich the fabric of their social lives.

Putnam describes at least half of all associational memberships as church related, half of all philanthropy as religious in character, and half of all volunteering occurs in a religious context- including contributions to secular causes.





5. Belonging to the body politic means that one law applies to all, especially in the case of America and England, which follow the common law, which arose from local judgments, rather than from decrees issued by a sovereign.

a. Today, European law gives preeminence to legislatures, the institution that drafted the statute prevails. In Anglo-American Common Law tradition, the institution that interprets and adjudicates the statute has the final word.

Due to the absence of a jury, and the deference to whomever writes the laws, Civil Law tradition of Western Europe is friendlier to tyrannical regimes than the Common Law tradition. It's origination, Justinians’ code, the emperor is named 'nomos empsychos', “law incarnate.” (see "Justinian's Flea," Rosen)

b. Today, with Western Europe as the model for Progressives in America, there is pressure to use civil law in our courts. Justice Kennedy referred favorably to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, and the International Convent on Civil and Political Rights. He also cited an European Union brief. See “Roper v. Simmons - 03-633 (2005) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center





6. As a result of the Progressive era, the value of the Constitution has receded, and the decisions of judges, known as 'case law', has replaced same.
"We are under a Constitution, but the Constitution is what the judges say it is, and the judiciary is the safeguard of our liberty and of our property under the Constitution." Charles Evans Hughes

Which means that no other Americans can speak English....just black-robed judges.

a. " Is it not ironic that those who favor policy-making by the Supreme Court claim that lower court judges should slavishly follow supreme court case law that has been totally made up."
'Originalism: A Quarter-Century of Debate,’ Steven G. Calabresi





7. Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law of the land, the Constitution, is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke).





What happens to the sense of belonging, of patriotism based on language, custom, geography and a legal system.....when none withstand the attacks of the progressive political assault?

It dissolves....disappears.
And when it does, so does national sovereignty.

As does the noble experiment that was America.

There is no claim in the OP that relates to my patriotism, you moron.

Your attempt at obfuscation (go get the dictionary)...proves that you couldn't dispute any of the OP.


On the other hand.....Do you have the national anthem on your iPod??

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did you pull out a thesaurus today and you are trying to prove how fake intelligent you are?
Everything you posted is about you and your so-called fake patriotism.
Speak of a moron and you have no one to look at but yourself.

Typical neo-con.
Beat your chest loudly and yell at the top of your lungs how patriotic you are yet in reality you are far from anything you profess.

There is no claim in the OP that relates to my patriotism, you moron.

Your attempt at obfuscation (go get the dictionary)...proves that you couldn't dispute any of the OP.


On the other hand.....Do you have the national anthem on your iPod??

Now....not that this is difficult, but watch how quickly I eviscerate you:

Find even one thing in the OP that is about me.




If anything....that shows tremendous will power, as I am my fav subject.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm bettin' that the 'education industry' is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Liberal/Progressive/DeathPanelDemocrats......

....so, in a story related to their view of patriotism:


"Students and parents at a Colorado high school are outraged after administrators turned down their request for a spirit week day honoring America because it might offend non-Americans.

“They said they didn’t want to offend anyone from other countries or immigrants,” a 16-year-old member of the student council told me. “They just really did not want to make anyone feel uncomfortable.”
You can?t celebrate America, school says | Fox News

 

[boilermaker55]

"Patriotism: Ended by Progressives"
And you claim to be conservative. Easy!
You are welcome.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Patriotism: Ended by Progressives"
And you claim to be conservative. Easy!
You are welcome.

"Find even one thing in the OP that is about me."


You can run, but you can't hide.

 

[natstew]

First the Liberal/Progressives made "Nationalism" a bad thing and then they come after Patriotism.

Nationalism and Patriotism are joined at the hip, can't survive without each other.

Oh, and PoliticalChic, remind me not to get on your bad list! LOL! keep up the good work!

 

[occupied]

Patriotism is the lie that makes people willingly sacrifice their children on the altar of capitalism. No American has died in a just war since 1945, every life since then has been wasted for blind patriotism and MIC profit.

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Patriotism, as practiced by Conservatives...Off-shoring, opening the southern border for cheap illegals and spending billions to practice Socialism overseas.

Gotta love it.

Neocons aren't conservative, by any stretch.

 

[edthecynic]

Wait....aren't you the dolt who used to have George Bernard Shaw in your sig line....until I proved that he was a Nazi supporter and wanted to exterminate those he didn't agree with?


Back for further education?

Good.

Actually, if you weren't such a dolt you would see that Sahw is still in my sig, and you would have realized that you failed miserably in your attempt to slander Shaw. You only proved your complete ignorance which allowed you to be deceived by your Right-wingnut sources because you had no idea what Shawvian Eugenics was. Just to remind you again if you try to take Shaw mocking Eugenicists out of context again, Shawvian Eugenics is the selective mating based on the choice of who the WOMAN selects to mate with. It has nothing to do with the state or killing anyone.

1. Actually, if you weren't such a dolt you would see that Sahw (sic)..."

(psst.....check your spelling before you assign 'dolt' to me.)




2. "....you failed miserably in your attempt to slander Shaw. You only proved your complete ignorance which allowed you to be deceived by your Right-wingnut sources..."



Spanking coming right up:

a. "The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.

"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems."
Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist


b.And, from said documentary:

"In Britain, George Bernard Shaw supported Hitler in the mass media, showing an article entitled "Shaw Heaps Praise on the Dictators....Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin." The Left supported Hitler because they knew he would kill."

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3lBdyFvPps"]Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw In His Own Words - YouTube[/ame]

a. In fact, Eichmann testified that Zyklon B was a humane gas....the same words as Shaw.




So that you don't embarrass yourself further, here is the entire documentary:

- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop






And, in the future, remember this simple rule: never doubt me.

Learn how to use the QUOTE function before you call anyone a dolt, you pompous DOLT!

Again you take his SATIRE mocking Eugenicists out of context to spew your lies. You can't pretend not to know the difference between Shawvian Eugenics and the kind the Right, like their hero Schikelgruber, supported. So you are lying because you love to lie.

 

[J.E.D]

Patriotism: Ended by Progressives

The type of patriotism where conservatives boo gay soldiers and try to punish them for being openly gay or the type of patriotism where gay soldiers are treated with respect and not punished for being openly gay?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Actually, if you weren't such a dolt you would see that Sahw is still in my sig, and you would have realized that you failed miserably in your attempt to slander Shaw. You only proved your complete ignorance which allowed you to be deceived by your Right-wingnut sources because you had no idea what Shawvian Eugenics was. Just to remind you again if you try to take Shaw mocking Eugenicists out of context again, Shawvian Eugenics is the selective mating based on the choice of who the WOMAN selects to mate with. It has nothing to do with the state or killing anyone.

1. Actually, if you weren't such a dolt you would see that Sahw (sic)..."

(psst.....check your spelling before you assign 'dolt' to me.)




2. "....you failed miserably in your attempt to slander Shaw. You only proved your complete ignorance which allowed you to be deceived by your Right-wingnut sources..."



Spanking coming right up:

a. "The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.

"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems."
Europe.view: Telling the Soviet story | The Economist


b.And, from said documentary:

"In Britain, George Bernard Shaw supported Hitler in the mass media, showing an article entitled "Shaw Heaps Praise on the Dictators....Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin." The Left supported Hitler because they knew he would kill."

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3lBdyFvPps"]Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw In His Own Words - YouTube[/ame]

a. In fact, Eichmann testified that Zyklon B was a humane gas....the same words as Shaw.




So that you don't embarrass yourself further, here is the entire documentary:

- The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop






And, in the future, remember this simple rule: never doubt me.

Learn how to use the QUOTE function before you call anyone a dolt, you pompous DOLT!

Again you take his SATIRE mocking Eugenicists out of context to spew your lies. You can't pretend not to know the difference between Shawvian Eugenics and the kind the Right, like their hero Schikelgruber, supported. So you are lying because you love to lie.

I never lie.....but I do derive a certain glee in rubbing you face in the truth.

The documentary that I proposed you view for your education provides newspaper article with direct quotes from Shaw.....

....proving everything I said about him.




More:

"...George Bernard Shaw, the celebrated progressive playwright defended Hitler, advocated killing those who can’t justify their existence and called for the development of lethal gas 10 years before the national socialists in Germany did exactly that.

George Bernard Shaw, “ I don’t want to punish anybody, but there are an extraordinary number of people who I might want to kill…I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly appointed board just as he might come before the income tax commissioner and say every 5 years or every 7 years…just put them there and say , ‘Sir or madam will you be kind enough to justify your existence…if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little bit more then clearly we cannot use the big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive. Because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself.’

Shaw wrote, “ I appeal to the chemists to discover a humane gas that will kill instantly and painlessly. In short- a gentlemanly gas deadly by all means, but humane, not cruel.”

Interviewed on Germany Shaw declared:
“Germany’s contention of ‘race pollution’ was ‘despicably unscientific.’” But he said he “appreciated” Hitler’s political sagacity and the courage with which he has rescued Germany from the gutter,, and placed her once more at the head of Central Europe.”
( SOURCE: GEORGE BERNARD SHAW Approaches His 82d Birthday Anemic But Still Vociferously Aware of His OwnJJnique. Significance, Galveston Daily News: 7/24/1938)


In the June 1929 Birth Control Review, George Bernard Shaw supports Sanger’s efforts to promote birth control when he, ” We are up against an overpopulation problem created by Capitalism…Socialists say quite truly that Socialism can get rid of it…But it cannot wait for Socialism…”

In Margaret Sanger’s Autobiography, Sanger writes, ” Jane had lnvited literary luminaries and their wives George Bernard Shaw, Arnold Bennett, Sir Arbuthnot Lane, Professor E W MacBride of the Eugenics Education Society, Walter Salter of the League of Nations, and Lord Buckmaster.


Sanger continues, “I was back In New York by the end of October, and soon came a letter from Shaw cheering me with his point of view.”

Sanger reads the letter from George Bernard Shaw and says Shaw compares the “more evolved people” or “White Elitists” to “lower classes who need to be taught to control their populations calling them “amoeba” ,

Learn the roots of abortion which are soaked in racsim and eugenics and the ideas promoted by George Bernard Shaw and Margaret Sanger,..."
George Bernard Shaw, Hitler, and Margaret Sanger | Saynsumthn's Blog

 

[PoliticalChic]

Patriotism: Ended by Progressives

The type of patriotism where conservatives boo gay soldiers and try to punish them for being openly gay or the type of patriotism where gay soldiers are treated with respect and not punished for being openly gay?

Aside from the histrionics of a Leftist sap....you....consider this truth:

Patriotism and national loyalty arise under certain condition....the most important of which is the presence of a common language.
Scruton, 'The West and the Rest.'

 

[hazlnut]

“Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious”
― Oscar Wilde

“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
― Samuel Johnson

“Patriotism ... is a superstition artificially created and maintained through a network of lies and falsehoods; a superstition that robs man of his self-respect and dignity, and increases his arrogance and conceit.”
― Emma Goldman

 

[PoliticalChic]

“Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious”
― Oscar Wilde

“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
― Samuel Johnson

“Patriotism ... is a superstition artificially created and maintained through a network of lies and falsehoods; a superstition that robs man of his self-respect and dignity, and increases his arrogance and conceit.”
― Emma Goldman

Patriotism.


Fer it or a'gin it?

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Samuel Johnson was wrong.

The last refuge of scoundrels is using the poor, elderly, sick, and the children as human shields to push your statist politics.