Paul Ryan; He Refuses Speakership unless GOP Throws out Jeffersons Rules and Pledges Permanent Loyal

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His way or the highway? Ryan makes big demands for speaker run

"Specifically, Ryan's demand that the "motion to vacate the chair" be overhauled could be, as one lawmaker put it, a "non-starter" for the House Freedom Caucus and its 30-40 members. Several members in the group told Fox News Tuesday night that they had no intention of giving up this tool for Ryan.

"Further, it's far from certain that Ryan could extract an endorsement from the caucus, in order to be the unity candidate he envisions. Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., one of the leaders of the caucus, said Tuesday that Ryan had laid out "unacceptable conditions."

"The House Freedom caucus had already endorsed Rep. Daniel Webster, R-Fla., for the job when McCarthy was running, and so far that doesn't appear to have changed. Webster also signaled Tuesday he's still running, even as another candidate for the job, Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, bowed out to make room for Ryan. Caucus Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, though, said they would meet with Ryan and are "open" to him. "

 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooney, Alex WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720
 
His way or the highway? Ryan makes big demands for speaker run

"Specifically, Ryan's demand that the "motion to vacate the chair" be overhauled could be, as one lawmaker put it, a "non-starter" for the House Freedom Caucus and its 30-40 members. Several members in the group told Fox News Tuesday night that they had no intention of giving up this tool for Ryan.

"Further, it's far from certain that Ryan could extract an endorsement from the caucus, in order to be the unity candidate he envisions. Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., one of the leaders of the caucus, said Tuesday that Ryan had laid out "unacceptable conditions."

"The House Freedom caucus had already endorsed Rep. Daniel Webster, R-Fla., for the job when McCarthy was running, and so far that doesn't appear to have changed. Webster also signaled Tuesday he's still running, even as another candidate for the job, Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, bowed out to make room for Ryan. Caucus Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, though, said they would meet with Ryan and are "open" to him. "


Fuck em
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooney, Alex WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooney, Alex WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
Geeze...ever heard of the Affordable Care Act?
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooconsidered WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
Yeah abiding by the laws of the land is now considered denying freedom...only in America.
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooney, Alex WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
Geeze...ever heard of the Affordable Care Act?

i would invite you to try paying for expensive healthcare procedures without benefit of the affordable care act.
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooconsidered WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
Yeah abiding by the laws of the land is now considered denying freedom...only in America.

Who said that gifting , or subsidizing healthcare services to the poor on the taxpayers dime is against the law?
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooney, Alex WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
Geeze...ever heard of the Affordable Care Act?

i would invite you to try paying for expensive healthcare procedures without benefit of the affordable care act.
But healthcare costs remain very high and are going higher...I thought the Act was to lower HC costs as Big Ears proclaimed.
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooney, Alex WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
Geeze...ever heard of the Affordable Care Act?

i would invite you to try paying for expensive healthcare procedures without benefit of the affordable care act.
But healthcare costs remain very high and are going higher...I thought the Act was to lower HC costs as Big Ears proclaimed.

Well lets face it, politicians say stupid fucking shit all the time, and Obama is no exception.Such as magically controlling healthcare costs in whats supposed to be a free market. Maybe what they really meant was that they were gonna pay healthcare providers less for procedures performed, as a way to control rising costs. Unfortunately there's no guarantee that kinda shit's gonna fly.in the real world. And for obvious reasons.
 
i would invite you to try paying for expensive healthcare procedures without benefit of the affordable care act.
People have been doing that for decades in this country, so it is very plausible to do so. Those who could not afford it were generally able to get free treatment at the County hospital and that filled in for the poor.

The problem with all that is that when the corporations started bringing in millions upon millions more after the '84 amnesty agreement, the public hospitals would run out of money for free care by May in many cases. The tax base was being reduced greatly by the displacement of high paying jobs with a solid tax with low paying black market labor that paid hardly any taxes at all.

Obamas ACA is flawed because it was not the product of debate and compromise from the other side. And these flaws resonate with each new year such that there was no net increase in enrollments this years, as I understand it.

ACA needs reform, not to be totally tossed out, but rebuilt. I think that there are ways to do it, but I have little trust in the Corporate cronies that are in charge, especially after the election of the Dictator of the House Ryan. I simply cannot wrap my brain around the complete surrender of power to a single man.
 
i would invite you to try paying for expensive healthcare procedures without benefit of the affordable care act.
People have been doing that for decades in this country, so it is very plausible to do so. Those who could not afford it were generally able to get free treatment at the County hospital and that filled in for the poor.

The problem with all that is that when the corporations started bringing in millions upon millions more after the '84 amnesty agreement, the public hospitals would run out of money for free care by May in many cases. The tax base was being reduced greatly by the displacement of high paying jobs with a solid tax with low paying black market labor that paid hardly any taxes at all.

Obamas ACA is flawed because it was not the product of debate and compromise from the other side. And these flaws resonate with each new year such that there was no net increase in enrollments this years, as I understand it.

ACA needs reform, not to be totally tossed out, but rebuilt. I think that there are ways to do it, but I have little trust in the Corporate cronies that are in charge, especially after the election of the Dictator of the House Ryan. I simply cannot wrap my brain around the complete surrender of power to a single man.
The ACA is the only major legislation passed in the history of the USA, purely along party lines. That fact is never mentioned by the MSM. Nor does the MSM ever remind Americans of the corrupt process used to get ACA passed. The multiple lies about ACA told by Obama and other Ds. The havoc it caused to millions of Americans. The lose of Fat Teddy and the election of Scott Brown....and on and on....
 
i would invite you to try paying for expensive healthcare procedures without benefit of the affordable care act.
People have been doing that for decades in this country, so it is very plausible to do so. Those who could not afford it were generally able to get free treatment at the County hospital and that filled in for the poor.

The problem with all that is that when the corporations started bringing in millions upon millions more after the '84 amnesty agreement, the public hospitals would run out of money for free care by May in many cases. The tax base was being reduced greatly by the displacement of high paying jobs with a solid tax with low paying black market labor that paid hardly any taxes at all.

Obamas ACA is flawed because it was not the product of debate and compromise from the other side. And these flaws resonate with each new year such that there was no net increase in enrollments this years, as I understand it.

ACA needs reform, not to be totally tossed out, but rebuilt. I think that there are ways to do it, but I have little trust in the Corporate cronies that are in charge, especially after the election of the Dictator of the House Ryan. I simply cannot wrap my brain around the complete surrender of power to a single man.

Wow that's a long & complicated comment to which Ill offer up the best reply i can.
Yes free healthcare was & still is available to the poor. But only on a very limited basis, and with hospitals expected to pick up the tab, they are easily overwhelmed & forced to close.

Yes the aca needs reform, but that probably wouldn't be necessary had republicans jumped in to help put the thing together. So who's really to blame for a flawed healthcare program.

As for immigration of the illegal kind, wallstreet will always make sure they arrive in sufficient numbers to suit their needs.100 foot high walls built along our southern border at great expense to the taxpayers is no obstetical to wallstreet. None whatsoever.
 
Wow that's a long & complicated comment to which Ill offer up the best reply i can.

lol

Yes free healthcare was & still is available to the poor. But only on a very limited basis, and with hospitals expected to pick up the tab, they are easily overwhelmed & forced to close.

I know


Yes the aca needs reform, but that probably wouldn't be necessary had republicans jumped in to help put the thing together. So who's really to blame for a flawed healthcare program.

You are falling for the duopoly illusion of two competing parties. There is only one party now, effectively and that is the Corporate Crony Duo Party.

As for immigration of the illegal kind, wallstreet will always make sure they arrive in sufficient numbers to suit their needs.100 foot high walls built along our southern border at great expense to the taxpayers.is no obstetrical to wallstreet. None whatsoever.

So the economy will continue to crash, only faster, in your view. While I think you are right, this will only hasten the end game.
 
I wonder what the "house freedom caucus" is all about, and who makes up their 30 or 40 members.
Here you go...
House Freedom Caucus Members
All members are Republicans

Member District House terms served Ideological score
Amash, Justin MI-3 3 0.712
Blum, Rod IA-1 1 0.532
Brat, David VA-7 2 0.753
Bridenstine, Jim OK-1 2 0.752
Brooks, Mo AL-5 3 0.587
Buck, Ken CO-4 1 0.693
Clawson, Curt FL-19 2 0.669
Desantis, Ron FL-6 2 0.676
DesJarlais, Scott TN-4 3 0.568
Duncan, Jeff SC-3 3 0.767
Fleming, John LA-4 4 0.573
Franks, Trent AZ-8 7 0.751
Garrett, Scott NJ-5 7 0.690
Gosar, Paul AZ-4 3 0.573
Griffith, Morgan VA-9 3 0.514
Harris, Andy MD-1 3 0.578
Hice, Jody GA-10 1 0.700
Huelskamp, Tim KS-1 3 0.756
Jordan, Jim (chairman) OH-4 5 0.692
Labrador, Raúl ID-1 3 0.734
Loudermilk, Barry GA-11 1 0.729
Lummis, Cynthia WY-At large 4 0.670
Meadows, Mark NC-11 2 0.625
Mooconsidered WV-2 1 0.573
Mulvaney, Mick SC-5 3 0.764
Palmer, Gary AL-6 1 0.727
Pearce, Stevan NM-2 6 0.467
Perry, Scott PA-4 2 0.623
Posey, Bill FL-8 4 0.490
Rothfus, Keith PA-12 2 0.474
Salmon, Matthew AZ-5 5 0.698
Sanford, Mark SC-1 5 0.704
Schweikert, David AZ-6 3 0.653
Stutzman, Marlin IN-3 4 0.744
Weber, Randy TX-14 2 0.797
Yoho, Ted FL-3 2 0.720

I'm having some trouble wrapping my mind around this thing. How can they possibly use the word "freedom" in their name, when just about everything they propose is in fact a denial of freedom. I thought we had some sort of truth in advertising laws on the books to stop horseshit like that?
Yeah abiding by the laws of the land is now considered denying freedom...only in America.

depends what the law is, if it's the Patriot Act, then yes, it is.
 
Wow that's a long & complicated comment to which Ill offer up the best reply i can.

lol

Yes free healthcare was & still is available to the poor. But only on a very limited basis, and with hospitals expected to pick up the tab, they are easily overwhelmed & forced to close.

I know


Yes the aca needs reform, but that probably wouldn't be necessary had republicans jumped in to help put the thing together. So who's really to blame for a flawed healthcare program.

You are falling for the duopoly illusion of two competing parties. There is only one party now, effectively and that is the Corporate Crony Duo Party.

As for immigration of the illegal kind, wallstreet will always make sure they arrive in sufficient numbers to suit their needs.100 foot high walls built along our southern border at great expense to the taxpayers.is no obstetrical to wallstreet. None whatsoever.

So the economy will continue to crash, only faster, in your view. While I think you are right, this will only hasten the end game.
Wow that's a long & complicated comment to which Ill offer up the best reply i can.

lol

Yes free healthcare was & still is available to the poor. But only on a very limited basis, and with hospitals expected to pick up the tab, they are easily overwhelmed & forced to close.

I know


Yes the aca needs reform, but that probably wouldn't be necessary had republicans jumped in to help put the thing together. So who's really to blame for a flawed healthcare program.

You are falling for the duopoly illusion of two competing parties. There is only one party now, effectively and that is the Corporate Crony Duo Party.

As for immigration of the illegal kind, wallstreet will always make sure they arrive in sufficient numbers to suit their needs.100 foot high walls built along our southern border at great expense to the taxpayers.is no obstetrical to wallstreet. None whatsoever.

So the economy will continue to crash, only faster, in your view. While I think you are right, this will only hasten the end game.
Your bullshit conclusions are yours & yours alone. Not mine.
 
Wow that's a long & complicated comment to which Ill offer up the best reply i can.

lol

Yes free healthcare was & still is available to the poor. But only on a very limited basis, and with hospitals expected to pick up the tab, they are easily overwhelmed & forced to close.

I know


Yes the aca needs reform, but that probably wouldn't be necessary had republicans jumped in to help put the thing together. So who's really to blame for a flawed healthcare program.

You are falling for the duopoly illusion of two competing parties. There is only one party now, effectively and that is the Corporate Crony Duo Party.

As for immigration of the illegal kind, wallstreet will always make sure they arrive in sufficient numbers to suit their needs.100 foot high walls built along our southern border at great expense to the taxpayers.is no obstetrical to wallstreet. None whatsoever.

So the economy will continue to crash, only faster, in your view. While I think you are right, this will only hasten the end game.
Wow that's a long & complicated comment to which Ill offer up the best reply i can.

lol

Yes free healthcare was & still is available to the poor. But only on a very limited basis, and with hospitals expected to pick up the tab, they are easily overwhelmed & forced to close.

I know


Yes the aca needs reform, but that probably wouldn't be necessary had republicans jumped in to help put the thing together. So who's really to blame for a flawed healthcare program.

You are falling for the duopoly illusion of two competing parties. There is only one party now, effectively and that is the Corporate Crony Duo Party.

As for immigration of the illegal kind, wallstreet will always make sure they arrive in sufficient numbers to suit their needs.100 foot high walls built along our southern border at great expense to the taxpayers.is no obstetrical to wallstreet. None whatsoever.

So the economy will continue to crash, only faster, in your view. While I think you are right, this will only hasten the end game.
Your bullshit conclusions are yours & yours alone. Not mine.
lol, which of my conclusions are you calling bullshit in my response?
 

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