Perfect example for 2nd amendment rights.

[OKTexas]

Yet you can't seem to find the courage to include the word "keep", meaning to possess, you're being disingenuous. Also I understand our gun laws and how they infringe on the rights of the people. To anyone who says they want to further infringe on the peoples rights, I say go to hell, no more yielding, no more compromise.


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You sound like a tough guy. Way to stay strong on principle.

Yes it says keep and bear arms. It also gives our congress the responsibility to protect the people, so if something causes a public safety hazard, like a crazy guy with a machine gun, or a prankster yelling bomb on a crowded airplane, our lawmakers have the right to outlaw it and enforce those laws, do they not?

The greater public safety hazard would be telling the 1.5 million people who use guns defensively every year that they can no longer defend themselves with equal or greater firepower than the bad guy has. And I don't know of anyone who died as a result of a prankster yelling bomb on an airplane.

The left keeps trying to chip away at our rights, this time magazines and a style of weapon, they get that, they'll just move on to the next one and then next one and the next one. No more yielding, no more compromise.


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Progressives will always push for more and conservatives will always push for less, this is why a healthy balance between both is important. If only would could have productive and honest debate instead of overbloated and hateful rhetoric.

There can be a balance between responsible gun ownership and public safety. But gun people need to recognize that smart regulations do help and gun grabbers need to recognize our second amendment right to bear arms and understand the protection element of it.

That's crap, the left has never engaged in honest debate. They intentionally inflate numbers and outright lie. The only way to defeat their tactics is to fight fire with fire. They're not the only ones who can read rules for radicals and effectively use its tactics.

The left would be better served in pushing States to input data in NICS so it can better detect nut jobs like Cruz. Congress just passed the Fix NICS bill to incentivize States to do just that. BTW, the NRA has been pushing for that bill for 25 years.


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I guess that makes you no better than them if you’re gonna fight fire with fire, also making your complaints about them hypocritical.

Screw you, we lose ground when we try to play nice, that has ended. Commiecrats want to use children as human parrots and expect the rest of us to lay down, it ain't gonna happen.


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[Slade3200]

You sound like a tough guy. Way to stay strong on principle.

Yes it says keep and bear arms. It also gives our congress the responsibility to protect the people, so if something causes a public safety hazard, like a crazy guy with a machine gun, or a prankster yelling bomb on a crowded airplane, our lawmakers have the right to outlaw it and enforce those laws, do they not?

The greater public safety hazard would be telling the 1.5 million people who use guns defensively every year that they can no longer defend themselves with equal or greater firepower than the bad guy has. And I don't know of anyone who died as a result of a prankster yelling bomb on an airplane.

The left keeps trying to chip away at our rights, this time magazines and a style of weapon, they get that, they'll just move on to the next one and then next one and the next one. No more yielding, no more compromise.


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Progressives will always push for more and conservatives will always push for less, this is why a healthy balance between both is important. If only would could have productive and honest debate instead of overbloated and hateful rhetoric.

There can be a balance between responsible gun ownership and public safety. But gun people need to recognize that smart regulations do help and gun grabbers need to recognize our second amendment right to bear arms and understand the protection element of it.

That's crap, the left has never engaged in honest debate. They intentionally inflate numbers and outright lie. The only way to defeat their tactics is to fight fire with fire. They're not the only ones who can read rules for radicals and effectively use its tactics.

The left would be better served in pushing States to input data in NICS so it can better detect nut jobs like Cruz. Congress just passed the Fix NICS bill to incentivize States to do just that. BTW, the NRA has been pushing for that bill for 25 years.


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I guess that makes you no better than them if you’re gonna fight fire with fire, also making your complaints about them hypocritical.

Screw you, we lose ground when we try to play nice, that has ended. Commiecrats want to use children as human parrots and expect the rest of us to lay down, it ain't gonna happen.


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Like I said, as soon as you resort to dirty and dishonest tactics then you become no better than those who you critique. And then you are nothing more than a lying hypocritical talking head.

 

[Pop23]

You never asked me about fully automatic weapons.

FYI they are not illegal.

And "high capacity" is just another catch phrase

For decades 20 and 30 round magazines were standard sizes. My Ruger came with a 20 round magazine when i bought it

And I posted a very good video that explains why magazine size isn't really a factor

I’ve posted at least 10 times asking whether y’all support the regulations of machine guns. I know they aren’t illegal, but do you think it a good thing that they are so highly regulated?

They aren't really that highly regulated.

All you need is a permit that any law abiding person can get and to pay the tax involved.

Fully automatic weapons are however extremely expensive

Who Can Own a Full-Auto Machine Gun? – RocketFFL

Just like the rest of the dupes, another dodge. Why can’t any of you answer a simple yes or no question? You are the 5th person who has dodged answering. P@triot is the one person with the balls enough to answer so far

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

And never used in a mass killing when they were legal. But perhaps this is the reason those mass shootings are happening during the past 20 years?

People who take antidepressants are '50% more likely to be convicted of assault' | Daily Mail Online

Imagine. 11% if the population taking a prescription drug that makes you 50% More likely to commit violent crimes.

Hmmmmm, maybe it’s not the guns?

 

[OKTexas]

The greater public safety hazard would be telling the 1.5 million people who use guns defensively every year that they can no longer defend themselves with equal or greater firepower than the bad guy has. And I don't know of anyone who died as a result of a prankster yelling bomb on an airplane.

The left keeps trying to chip away at our rights, this time magazines and a style of weapon, they get that, they'll just move on to the next one and then next one and the next one. No more yielding, no more compromise.


.

Progressives will always push for more and conservatives will always push for less, this is why a healthy balance between both is important. If only would could have productive and honest debate instead of overbloated and hateful rhetoric.

There can be a balance between responsible gun ownership and public safety. But gun people need to recognize that smart regulations do help and gun grabbers need to recognize our second amendment right to bear arms and understand the protection element of it.

That's crap, the left has never engaged in honest debate. They intentionally inflate numbers and outright lie. The only way to defeat their tactics is to fight fire with fire. They're not the only ones who can read rules for radicals and effectively use its tactics.

The left would be better served in pushing States to input data in NICS so it can better detect nut jobs like Cruz. Congress just passed the Fix NICS bill to incentivize States to do just that. BTW, the NRA has been pushing for that bill for 25 years.


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I guess that makes you no better than them if you’re gonna fight fire with fire, also making your complaints about them hypocritical.

Screw you, we lose ground when we try to play nice, that has ended. Commiecrats want to use children as human parrots and expect the rest of us to lay down, it ain't gonna happen.


.

Like I said, as soon as you resort to dirty and dishonest tactics then you become no better than those who you critique. And then you are nothing more than a lying hypocritical talking head.

Who said anything about me being dishonest, dirty is definitely an option. Feel free to point to anything I've said that wasn't factual.


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[Slade3200]

I’ve posted at least 10 times asking whether y’all support the regulations of machine guns. I know they aren’t illegal, but do you think it a good thing that they are so highly regulated?

They aren't really that highly regulated.

All you need is a permit that any law abiding person can get and to pay the tax involved.

Fully automatic weapons are however extremely expensive

Who Can Own a Full-Auto Machine Gun? – RocketFFL

Just like the rest of the dupes, another dodge. Why can’t any of you answer a simple yes or no question? You are the 5th person who has dodged answering. P@triot is the one person with the balls enough to answer so far

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

And never used in a mass killing when they were legal. But perhaps this is the reason those mass shootings are happening during the past 20 years?

People who take antidepressants are '50% more likely to be convicted of assault' | Daily Mail Online

Imagine. 11% if the population taking a prescription drug that makes you 50% More likely to commit violent crimes.

Hmmmmm, maybe it’s not the guns?

Mental health is absolutely a factor. You’re still not answering my question

 

[Slade3200]

Progressives will always push for more and conservatives will always push for less, this is why a healthy balance between both is important. If only would could have productive and honest debate instead of overbloated and hateful rhetoric.

There can be a balance between responsible gun ownership and public safety. But gun people need to recognize that smart regulations do help and gun grabbers need to recognize our second amendment right to bear arms and understand the protection element of it.

That's crap, the left has never engaged in honest debate. They intentionally inflate numbers and outright lie. The only way to defeat their tactics is to fight fire with fire. They're not the only ones who can read rules for radicals and effectively use its tactics.

The left would be better served in pushing States to input data in NICS so it can better detect nut jobs like Cruz. Congress just passed the Fix NICS bill to incentivize States to do just that. BTW, the NRA has been pushing for that bill for 25 years.


.

I guess that makes you no better than them if you’re gonna fight fire with fire, also making your complaints about them hypocritical.

Screw you, we lose ground when we try to play nice, that has ended. Commiecrats want to use children as human parrots and expect the rest of us to lay down, it ain't gonna happen.


.

Like I said, as soon as you resort to dirty and dishonest tactics then you become no better than those who you critique. And then you are nothing more than a lying hypocritical talking head.

Who said anything about me being dishonest, dirty is definitely an option. Feel free to point to anything I've said that wasn't factual.


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Gee, let’s see, how about I just go back one post... “commiecrats want to use children as human parrots and expect the rest of us to lay down.” Come on, grow up

 

[Skull Pilot]

You never asked me about fully automatic weapons.

FYI they are not illegal.

And "high capacity" is just another catch phrase

For decades 20 and 30 round magazines were standard sizes. My Ruger came with a 20 round magazine when i bought it

And I posted a very good video that explains why magazine size isn't really a factor

I’ve posted at least 10 times asking whether y’all support the regulations of machine guns. I know they aren’t illegal, but do you think it a good thing that they are so highly regulated?

They aren't really that highly regulated.

All you need is a permit that any law abiding person can get and to pay the tax involved.

Fully automatic weapons are however extremely expensive

Who Can Own a Full-Auto Machine Gun? – RocketFFL

Just like the rest of the dupes, another dodge. Why can’t any of you answer a simple yes or no question? You are the 5th person who has dodged answering. P@triot is the one person with the balls enough to answer so far

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

I have no problem with anyone who can legally own a firearm owning an automatic weapon. None at all. I do not think any extra licensing or taxes should apply.

The same as I don't think an additional permit for concealed carry is necessary. If I can legally buy a handgun I have every right to carry that gun if I so choose.

 

[Skull Pilot]

By anyone.

You don't need a government bureaucrat to be discplined

I never said anything about government bureaucrats, I just asked a question... when the constitution says a well regulated militia you’re saying that the founders meant to say that people should be ordered and disciplined and held accountable by just anyone who feels like holding them accountable? That’s how you think it’s intended?

The second says nothing about accountability.

If a group of people were to form a militia they could decide who their leader would be.
But you ignore the fact that the right to keep and bear arms belongs to the people whether they are serving in a militia or not.

I’m not ignoring that. I’ve actually written those exact words serveral times. The people have a right to own firearms.

So back to the discussion. If there was an unregulated militia that showed lack of order and discipline, what do you think should happen?

Hypothetical bull shit.

If those people were not breaking any laws there need be nothing done.

Yes you look at hypothetical situations to understand the definitions of our laws. If this happens how is it handled. You keep dodging instead of answering. Why?

The last thing I would be thinking about if a guy was shooting at me was if he had a 10 or 30 round magazine

Unlike you I know that magazine size matter very little in terms of how many rounds can be fired in a given time frame.

I posted a very informative video on the topic. You should watch it

 

[Skull Pilot]

It really doesn't because if I wanted to carry 150 round I could just as easily carry 15 10 round magazines or 10 15 round magazines

And the fact that 1% of all murders occur in the scenarios you are fixated on adds to the fact that magazine size isn't really a factor

You’re right, you could... if I was hiding under a table while some nutjob was walking around shooting up the joint I’d much rather he had the 15 10 round mags instead of the 5 30 round mags, wouldn’t you? id be looking very closely during each reload when the guys gotta go to the bag to get another mag, to try and take him out. But hey if you don’t see a difference then there’s nothin I can say to convince you otherwise.

Funny how that never happens during a mass shooting isn't it?

And in all honesty I don't worry abut getting killed in a mass shooting as the odds are pretty thin

Yeah you’re right, fuck it. Those students who want safer schools are drama queens anyways, let’s not do shit.

There are a lot better ways to secure schools than telling law abiding people they can't own certain guns.

Gee I don't know maybe we start by controlling who can walk onto the school grounds or into the school buildings

DUH

Why would we worry about that? The odds are pretty thin that there would be a mass shooter anyways

True enough.

You asked how to stop school shootings. I gave you the most effective way

 

[Slade3200]

I’ve posted at least 10 times asking whether y’all support the regulations of machine guns. I know they aren’t illegal, but do you think it a good thing that they are so highly regulated?

They aren't really that highly regulated.

All you need is a permit that any law abiding person can get and to pay the tax involved.

Fully automatic weapons are however extremely expensive

Who Can Own a Full-Auto Machine Gun? – RocketFFL

Just like the rest of the dupes, another dodge. Why can’t any of you answer a simple yes or no question? You are the 5th person who has dodged answering. P@triot is the one person with the balls enough to answer so far

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

I have no problem with anyone who can legally own a firearm owning an automatic weapon. None at all. I do not think any extra licensing or taxes should apply.

The same as I don't think an additional permit for concealed carry is necessary. If I can legally buy a handgun I have every right to carry that gun if I so choose.

Ok, thank you for finally answering, you almost addressed the question but not quite. So we know you don’t want any additional regulations but how do you feel about the current ones that are in place?

There are laws and regulations right now that determine what is “legal” and who is “permitted” to own weapons... do you think those laws and regulations are justified?

 

[Skull Pilot]

They aren't really that highly regulated.

All you need is a permit that any law abiding person can get and to pay the tax involved.

Fully automatic weapons are however extremely expensive

Who Can Own a Full-Auto Machine Gun? – RocketFFL

Just like the rest of the dupes, another dodge. Why can’t any of you answer a simple yes or no question? You are the 5th person who has dodged answering. P@triot is the one person with the balls enough to answer so far

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

I have no problem with anyone who can legally own a firearm owning an automatic weapon. None at all. I do not think any extra licensing or taxes should apply.

The same as I don't think an additional permit for concealed carry is necessary. If I can legally buy a handgun I have every right to carry that gun if I so choose.

Ok, thank you for finally answering, you almost addressed the question but not quite. So we know you don’t want any additional regulations but how do you feel about the current ones that are in place?

There are laws and regulations right now that determine what is “legal” and who is “permitted” to own weapons... do you think those laws and regulations are justified?

There is no need for the additional permits or the taxes.


I have ever had a problem with denying convicted felons or the adjudicated mentally ill a firearm.

 

[Slade3200]

I never said anything about government bureaucrats, I just asked a question... when the constitution says a well regulated militia you’re saying that the founders meant to say that people should be ordered and disciplined and held accountable by just anyone who feels like holding them accountable? That’s how you think it’s intended?

The second says nothing about accountability.

If a group of people were to form a militia they could decide who their leader would be.
But you ignore the fact that the right to keep and bear arms belongs to the people whether they are serving in a militia or not.

I’m not ignoring that. I’ve actually written those exact words serveral times. The people have a right to own firearms.

So back to the discussion. If there was an unregulated militia that showed lack of order and discipline, what do you think should happen?

Hypothetical bull shit.

If those people were not breaking any laws there need be nothing done.

Yes you look at hypothetical situations to understand the definitions of our laws. If this happens how is it handled. You keep dodging instead of answering. Why?

The last thing I would be thinking about if a guy was shooting at me was if he had a 10 or 30 round magazine

Unlike you I know that magazine size matter very little in terms of how many rounds can be fired in a given time frame.

I posted a very informative video on the topic. You should watch it

I did and I didn’t find it relevant. Btw. You don’t need to think about how many bullets a shooter has, I never implied so. I’m simply saying somebody with LCM is more dangerous than somebody who will need to carry and reload more, which is also more dangerous than somebody with a revolver or musket

 

[Slade3200]

You’re right, you could... if I was hiding under a table while some nutjob was walking around shooting up the joint I’d much rather he had the 15 10 round mags instead of the 5 30 round mags, wouldn’t you? id be looking very closely during each reload when the guys gotta go to the bag to get another mag, to try and take him out. But hey if you don’t see a difference then there’s nothin I can say to convince you otherwise.

Funny how that never happens during a mass shooting isn't it?

And in all honesty I don't worry abut getting killed in a mass shooting as the odds are pretty thin

Yeah you’re right, fuck it. Those students who want safer schools are drama queens anyways, let’s not do shit.

There are a lot better ways to secure schools than telling law abiding people they can't own certain guns.

Gee I don't know maybe we start by controlling who can walk onto the school grounds or into the school buildings

DUH

Why would we worry about that? The odds are pretty thin that there would be a mass shooter anyways

True enough.

You asked how to stop school shootings. I gave you the most effective way

Fact is nobody can stop school shootings, despite what Trump touts. If there is a will there is a way. However, there is a problem and kids are rallying together to demand more safety in our schools. You can point to stats and take the weak and lazy stance of saying we don’t need to do anything cause you’re not worried about it... or we can work on things that will make our communities safer.

 

[Slade3200]

Just like the rest of the dupes, another dodge. Why can’t any of you answer a simple yes or no question? You are the 5th person who has dodged answering. P@triot is the one person with the balls enough to answer so far

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

I have no problem with anyone who can legally own a firearm owning an automatic weapon. None at all. I do not think any extra licensing or taxes should apply.

The same as I don't think an additional permit for concealed carry is necessary. If I can legally buy a handgun I have every right to carry that gun if I so choose.

Ok, thank you for finally answering, you almost addressed the question but not quite. So we know you don’t want any additional regulations but how do you feel about the current ones that are in place?

There are laws and regulations right now that determine what is “legal” and who is “permitted” to own weapons... do you think those laws and regulations are justified?

There is no need for the additional permits or the taxes.


I have ever had a problem with denying convicted felons or the adjudicated mentally ill a firearm.

Why can’t you answer a direct question. You know I’m going to just keep asking until you actually give an answer. So here it is AGAIN. How do you feel about the current laws that are in place that regulate who and what people can buy? This is including the regulations on machine guns. Do you support the CURRENT LAWS? Yes or no

 

[Skull Pilot]

The second says nothing about accountability.

If a group of people were to form a militia they could decide who their leader would be.
But you ignore the fact that the right to keep and bear arms belongs to the people whether they are serving in a militia or not.

I’m not ignoring that. I’ve actually written those exact words serveral times. The people have a right to own firearms.

So back to the discussion. If there was an unregulated militia that showed lack of order and discipline, what do you think should happen?

Hypothetical bull shit.

If those people were not breaking any laws there need be nothing done.

Yes you look at hypothetical situations to understand the definitions of our laws. If this happens how is it handled. You keep dodging instead of answering. Why?

The last thing I would be thinking about if a guy was shooting at me was if he had a 10 or 30 round magazine

Unlike you I know that magazine size matter very little in terms of how many rounds can be fired in a given time frame.

I posted a very informative video on the topic. You should watch it

I did and I didn’t find it relevant. Btw. You don’t need to think about how many bullets a shooter has, I never implied so. I’m simply saying somebody with LCM is more dangerous than somebody who will need to carry and reload more, which is also more dangerous than somebody with a revolver or musket

When a reload involves dropping and swapping a mag the time is negligible

 

[Skull Pilot]

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

I have no problem with anyone who can legally own a firearm owning an automatic weapon. None at all. I do not think any extra licensing or taxes should apply.

The same as I don't think an additional permit for concealed carry is necessary. If I can legally buy a handgun I have every right to carry that gun if I so choose.

Ok, thank you for finally answering, you almost addressed the question but not quite. So we know you don’t want any additional regulations but how do you feel about the current ones that are in place?

There are laws and regulations right now that determine what is “legal” and who is “permitted” to own weapons... do you think those laws and regulations are justified?

There is no need for the additional permits or the taxes.


I have ever had a problem with denying convicted felons or the adjudicated mentally ill a firearm.

Why can’t you answer a direct question. You know I’m going to just keep asking until you actually give an answer. So here it is AGAIN. How do you feel about the current laws that are in place that regulate who and what people can buy? This is including the regulations on machine guns. Do you support the CURRENT LAWS? Yes or no

Gee I could have sworn I told you that IMO anyone who can legally buy any firearm should be able to buy an automatic weapon with no additional permits or taxes.

I assumed anyone could imply from that that I disagree with the mandate for an additional permit and the additional tax.

As far as what people can buy I refer you to the above.

If anyone can legally purchase a firearm I don't care what firearms they own

 

[Skull Pilot]

Funny how that never happens during a mass shooting isn't it?

And in all honesty I don't worry abut getting killed in a mass shooting as the odds are pretty thin

Yeah you’re right, fuck it. Those students who want safer schools are drama queens anyways, let’s not do shit.

There are a lot better ways to secure schools than telling law abiding people they can't own certain guns.

Gee I don't know maybe we start by controlling who can walk onto the school grounds or into the school buildings

DUH

Why would we worry about that? The odds are pretty thin that there would be a mass shooter anyways

True enough.

You asked how to stop school shootings. I gave you the most effective way

Fact is nobody can stop school shootings, despite what Trump touts. If there is a will there is a way. However, there is a problem and kids are rallying together to demand more safety in our schools. You can point to stats and take the weak and lazy stance of saying we don’t need to do anything cause you’re not worried about it... or we can work on things that will make our communities safer.

I actually have been saying over and over again in various threads that the best way to prevent school shootings is to control who is allowed on school grounds

 

[Slade3200]

I’m not ignoring that. I’ve actually written those exact words serveral times. The people have a right to own firearms.

So back to the discussion. If there was an unregulated militia that showed lack of order and discipline, what do you think should happen?

Hypothetical bull shit.

If those people were not breaking any laws there need be nothing done.

Yes you look at hypothetical situations to understand the definitions of our laws. If this happens how is it handled. You keep dodging instead of answering. Why?

The last thing I would be thinking about if a guy was shooting at me was if he had a 10 or 30 round magazine

Unlike you I know that magazine size matter very little in terms of how many rounds can be fired in a given time frame.

I posted a very informative video on the topic. You should watch it

I did and I didn’t find it relevant. Btw. You don’t need to think about how many bullets a shooter has, I never implied so. I’m simply saying somebody with LCM is more dangerous than somebody who will need to carry and reload more, which is also more dangerous than somebody with a revolver or musket

When a reload involves dropping and swapping a mag the time is negligible

That’s fine, I just disagree. I think that easy to show from a gun expert at a range and a very different situation when in a hostile situation, with adrenaline flowing, after murdering people. Hands might just be a little more shaky, mind might just be a bit more overwhelmed, don’t you think?

 

[Slade3200]

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

I have no problem with anyone who can legally own a firearm owning an automatic weapon. None at all. I do not think any extra licensing or taxes should apply.

The same as I don't think an additional permit for concealed carry is necessary. If I can legally buy a handgun I have every right to carry that gun if I so choose.

Ok, thank you for finally answering, you almost addressed the question but not quite. So we know you don’t want any additional regulations but how do you feel about the current ones that are in place?

There are laws and regulations right now that determine what is “legal” and who is “permitted” to own weapons... do you think those laws and regulations are justified?

There is no need for the additional permits or the taxes.


I have ever had a problem with denying convicted felons or the adjudicated mentally ill a firearm.

Why can’t you answer a direct question. You know I’m going to just keep asking until you actually give an answer. So here it is AGAIN. How do you feel about the current laws that are in place that regulate who and what people can buy? This is including the regulations on machine guns. Do you support the CURRENT LAWS? Yes or no

Gee I could have sworn I told you that IMO anyone who can legally buy any firearm should be able to buy an automatic weapon with no additional permits or taxes.

I assumed anyone could imply from that that I disagree with the mandate for an additional permit and the additional tax.

As far as what people can buy I refer you to the above.

If anyone can legally purchase a firearm I don't care what firearms they own

Wow, are you really not understanding my question or are you just trying so hard to dance around it. It’s been over a day and I still cant get a straight forward answer from you. What’s the deal man, how embarrassing for you. Here I’ll ask it a THIRD time and restate that I’m not talking about future laws or regulations I’m talking about EXISTING ones.

Do you agree with current regulations and laws we have on guns and those who are permitted to buy them? Yes or no. I really can’t be any more simple or clear.

You’ve said in your dodge, that you think anybody who can legally purchase firearms should be able to purchase any kind of gun. But laws define who is considered “legal” so are you ok with those laws?

 

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They aren't really that highly regulated.

All you need is a permit that any law abiding person can get and to pay the tax involved.

Fully automatic weapons are however extremely expensive

Who Can Own a Full-Auto Machine Gun? – RocketFFL

Just like the rest of the dupes, another dodge. Why can’t any of you answer a simple yes or no question? You are the 5th person who has dodged answering. P@triot is the one person with the balls enough to answer so far

My honest answer is I don't give a fuck about the regulation of machine guns because I never wanted one.

But they really are not that highly regulated as you say they are.

And what's point you're trying to make with that question?

That you have to be 21?

Pop23 was the only other one that tried to answer that question and he said the same as you “I don’t care”. What a cop out.

My point is that machine guns are regulated the way they are because they are extremely dangerous and capable of killing many people in a short period of time. To me it is a no brainer that we don’t have them for sale in every 7-11 or quick stop for anybody to walk in and buy. Do you agree? YES or NO

And never used in a mass killing when they were legal. But perhaps this is the reason those mass shootings are happening during the past 20 years?

People who take antidepressants are '50% more likely to be convicted of assault' | Daily Mail Online

Imagine. 11% if the population taking a prescription drug that makes you 50% More likely to commit violent crimes.

Hmmmmm, maybe it’s not the guns?

Mental health is absolutely a factor. You’re still not answering my question

No, it actually isn’t.

People with depression rarely, if ever act out violently

But those on these drugs, whether depressed or not, are 50% more likely to act out violently.

And that’s 11% of the population.

Thanks for playing. Someone as unable to grasp simple concepts, should not be preaching about who should and should not own weapons.

Take a hike lil fella