Poll: Americans Want Obama to Negotiate

[The T]

The spending was approved by the Republicans.

Now its time to fund the spending.

no tricks, games, or bullshit.

Was it, and WHAT spending are you talking about? (Or are YOU parroting yer BOSS OBAMA)?

Guess who HAS the purse strings?

THANK GOD it ain't the DEMOCRATS.

 

[daveman]

October 3 2013~
Let the nay saying begin!

"A majority of Americans want President Obama to negotiate with Congress over the debt ceiling, and nearly two-thirds oppose raising the debt without significant spending reforms attached, according to a recent poll from Ending Spending and the American Action Forum.

House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) said Wednesday following a meeting at the White House that the president had ”reiterated one more time tonight that he will not negotiate.” Obama and most Democrats favor a “clean” debt-ceiling hike without spending reforms attached. Meanwhile, House GOP leaders are said to be working on a larger budget deal to end the government and raise the debt ceiling with reforms."

Poll: Americans Want Obama to Negotiate | National Review Online

KEY FINDINGS
1. AN OPPORTUNITY: Obama is badly bruised. The President's numbers aren't strong, with an underwater approval rating (43% approve, 49% disapprove), and a generic congressional ballot that has Republicans ahead by 4 points (40% GOP, 36%DEM)

Just read the rest yourself:

http://www.endingspending.com/docs/debtceilingpoll.pdf

Your link is broken, please fix it.

They both work fine.

 

[daveman]

Ending Spending and the American Action Forum?

Notice the link is broken, who the hell is the American Action Forum (do I smell the Koch Brothers?).

The link works just fine.

 

[The T]

Ending Spending and the American Action Forum?

Notice the link is broken, who the hell is the American Action Forum (do I smell the Koch Brothers?).

The link works just fine.

It did for me as well...FLYCATCHER's Browser is faulty.

 

[Flopper]

October 3 2013~
Let the nay saying begin!

"A majority of Americans want President Obama to negotiate with Congress over the debt ceiling, and nearly two-thirds oppose raising the debt without significant spending reforms attached, according to a recent poll from Ending Spending and the American Action Forum.

House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) said Wednesday following a meeting at the White House that the president had ”reiterated one more time tonight that he will not negotiate.” Obama and most Democrats favor a “clean” debt-ceiling hike without spending reforms attached. Meanwhile, House GOP leaders are said to be working on a larger budget deal to end the government and raise the debt ceiling with reforms."

Poll: Americans Want Obama to Negotiate | National Review Online

KEY FINDINGS
1. AN OPPORTUNITY: Obama is badly bruised. The President's numbers aren't strong, with an underwater approval rating (43% approve, 49% disapprove), and a generic congressional ballot that has Republicans ahead by 4 points (40% GOP, 36%DEM)

Just read the rest yourself:

http://www.endingspending.com/docs/debtceilingpoll.pdf

The president's job is to submit a budget request to congress which he has done. What is done with that request is up to the House and Senate. A budget resolution does not require the president's signature.

Raising the debt ceiling is primarily a decision to be made by congress, not the president. If congress does not raise the debt ceiling, then it must cut the president's budget.

It seems to me that negotiations should be between the House and Senate, not the president.

 

[The T]

October 3 2013~
Let the nay saying begin!

"A majority of Americans want President Obama to negotiate with Congress over the debt ceiling, and nearly two-thirds oppose raising the debt without significant spending reforms attached, according to a recent poll from Ending Spending and the American Action Forum.

House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) said Wednesday following a meeting at the White House that the president had ”reiterated one more time tonight that he will not negotiate.” Obama and most Democrats favor a “clean” debt-ceiling hike without spending reforms attached. Meanwhile, House GOP leaders are said to be working on a larger budget deal to end the government and raise the debt ceiling with reforms."

Poll: Americans Want Obama to Negotiate | National Review Online

KEY FINDINGS
1. AN OPPORTUNITY: Obama is badly bruised. The President's numbers aren't strong, with an underwater approval rating (43% approve, 49% disapprove), and a generic congressional ballot that has Republicans ahead by 4 points (40% GOP, 36%DEM)

Just read the rest yourself:

http://www.endingspending.com/docs/debtceilingpoll.pdf

The president's job is to submit a budget request to congress which he has done. What is done with that request is up to the House and Senate. A budget resolution does not require the president's signature.

Raising the debt ceiling is primarily a decision to be made by congress, not the president. If congress does not raise the debt ceiling, then it must cut the president's budget.

It seems to me that negotiations should be between the House and Senate, not the president.

And WHAT praytell, has happened to EVRY BUDGET Obama has requested?

DENIED by the FULL SENATE...

 

[Flopper]

Ok....let's talk about polls........

According to the Fox News poll, disapproval of the Republican Party has jumped from 46% in September of 2012 to 59% today. Disapproval of the GOP has climbed from 54% in January to 56% in April to nearing 60% today. Approval of the Republican Party has fallen from 45% to 35%. In contrast, Democratic Party unfavorability has stayed stable in the Fox poll at between 48% and 49% all through 2013.

Support for repealing the ACA has dropped from 39% in June to 30% today. This could mean that the linking of funding the government to defunding or delaying the ACA has completely backfired on the Republican Party. The number of Americans who think that they will be better off under Obamacare has risen by 7 points from 34% to 41%

The behavior of House Republicans isn’t just hurting their 2014 chances. It is damaging the whole Republican Party. When a Fox News poll finds a sizable margin of people are blaming the Republicans things are really bad. The Fox News polls have always shaded their questions with loaded terms, so it means a lot when a poll that is normally friendly to the GOP finds things going this badly.

The Republican Party is being destroyed by their own obsession with Obamacare.

Fox News Poll Finds Disapproval Of GOP Skyrocketing After They Shut Down Government

That damn liberal media FOX news!!!!

.

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot.

I noticed today that the talk in Washington is shifting from defunding Obamacare to just spending cutting. Defunding Obamacare was dead the day it came out of the House. However, negotiation on spending cuts can lead to a resolution.

 

[asaratis]

Could that possibly be because Americans are idiots who don't understand what the fuck the debt ceiling even is?

Most of the people right on this forum who claim they're in favor of freezing the debt ceiling can't tell you how and where they would make the cuts in spending to accomplish that.

I'm not among the "most" of which you speak.

1
Cancel all plans for Obama family "vacations".

2
Stop arming either side of the Syrian conflict.

3
Tell Eric Holder to cease and desist from his stupid law suits against Texas and other states that are LEGALLY requiring photo IDs.

4
Cut the pay of ALL congressmen.

5
Close down the IRS..let the bums there join the ranks of the unemployed.

6
Defund Obamacare

7
Abolish earmarks and other "pay back" spending

8
Let congressmen pay for all their own meals, haircuts, transportation and second homes.

9
Abolish grants for such silly shit as studying the impact of round toothpicks vs square toothpicks

10
Abolish the Department of Education

11
Abolish the Department of Energy

12
Abolish the Department of Interior...leave the management of existing National Parks to the states within which they reside.

That's just for starters! The federal government is just too goddamned intrusive and has far to many employees. Let them hit the streets!

 

[The T]

Ok....let's talk about polls........

According to the Fox News poll, disapproval of the Republican Party has jumped from 46% in September of 2012 to 59% today. Disapproval of the GOP has climbed from 54% in January to 56% in April to nearing 60% today. Approval of the Republican Party has fallen from 45% to 35%. In contrast, Democratic Party unfavorability has stayed stable in the Fox poll at between 48% and 49% all through 2013.

The Republican Party is being destroyed by their own obsession with Obamacare.

Fox News Poll Finds Disapproval Of GOP Skyrocketing After They Shut Down Government

That damn liberal media FOX news!!!!

.

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot.

I noticed today that the talk in Washington is shifting from defunding Obamacare to just spending cutting. Defunding Obamacare was dead the day it came out of the House. However, negotiation on spending cuts can lead to a resolution.

NO they are listening, acting on BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE. TAKE OFF the Partisan bullshit blinders for once?

Obama and REID are shooting AT the people for Partisan bullshit purposes.

WAKE UP.

 

[The T]

Could that possibly be because Americans are idiots who don't understand what the fuck the debt ceiling even is?

Most of the people right on this forum who claim they're in favor of freezing the debt ceiling can't tell you how and where they would make the cuts in spending to accomplish that.

I'm not among the "most" of which you speak.

1
Cancel all plans for Obama family "vacations".

2
Stop arming either side of the Syrian conflict.

3
Tell Eric Holder to cease and desist from his stupid law suits against Texas and other states that are LEGALLY requiring photo IDs.

4
Cut the pay of ALL congressmen.

5
Close down the IRS..let the bums there join the ranks of the unemployed.

6
Defund Obamacare

7
Abolish earmarks and other "pay back" spending

8
Let congressmen pay for all their own meals, haircuts, transportation and second homes.

9
Abolish grants for such silly shit as studying the impact of round toothpicks vs square toothpicks

10
Abolish the Department of Education

11
Abolish the Department of Energy

12
Abolish the Department of Interior...leave the management of existing National Parks to the states within which they reside.

That's just for starters! The federal government is just too goddamned intrusive and has far to many employees. Let them hit the streets!

^^THIS Post is AWESOME!

 

[MeBelle]

Ending Spending and the American Action Forum?

Notice the link is broken, who the hell is the American Action Forum (do I smell the Koch Brothers?).

Link works fine for me.

http://www.endingspending.com/docs/debtceilingpoll.pdf

Give it a second or two to load.

Works for me.

Ending Spending | EndingSpending.com

American Action Forum

Are the groups that PAID for the poll.

 

[MeBelle]

Ok....let's talk about polls.........

You already had your cherry picking poll thread.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/316343-fox-news-poll-disapproval-of-gop-skyrocketing.html

You can go back to it.

At least I offer the entire poll.

 

[jgarden]

Poll: Americans Want Obama to Negotiate

Does this mean the Republican/Tea Party are going to negotiate a new Immigration bill or set restrictions concerning the "right to bear arms?"

 

[JoeB131]

Problem: The credit cards are maxed out, and we can't afford the payments.

Republican Analysis: Obviously, we should stop charging.

Democrat Analysis: Obviously, our credit limit is too low.

Not really a good analogy.

 

[Sallow]

Ok....let's talk about polls........

According to the Fox News poll, disapproval of the Republican Party has jumped from 46% in September of 2012 to 59% today. Disapproval of the GOP has climbed from 54% in January to 56% in April to nearing 60% today. Approval of the Republican Party has fallen from 45% to 35%. In contrast, Democratic Party unfavorability has stayed stable in the Fox poll at between 48% and 49% all through 2013.

The Republican Party is being destroyed by their own obsession with Obamacare.

Fox News Poll Finds Disapproval Of GOP Skyrocketing After They Shut Down Government

That damn liberal media FOX news!!!!

.

Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot.

I noticed today that the talk in Washington is shifting from defunding Obamacare to just spending cutting. Defunding Obamacare was dead the day it came out of the House. However, negotiation on spending cuts can lead to a resolution.

Personally I think Obama should lay out some spending cuts. Starting with complete withdrawal from Afghanistan and ending with chopping Military spending in half.

 

[BDBoop]

Personally I think Obama should lay out some spending cuts. Starting with complete withdrawal from Afghanistan and ending with chopping Military spending in half.

Perfect. Maybe even toss in some killing of corporate welfare??

 

[Sallow]

Personally I think Obama should lay out some spending cuts. Starting with complete withdrawal from Afghanistan and ending with chopping Military spending in half.

Perfect. Maybe even toss in some killing of corporate welfare??

Not only that. Introduce conflict of interest law into congress.

In that no person in congress can vote on a bill that personally adds to their wealth.

Like what Bachmann and LaMalfa did.

 

[Sarah G]

October 3 2013~
Let the nay saying begin!

"A majority of Americans want President Obama to negotiate with Congress over the debt ceiling, and nearly two-thirds oppose raising the debt without significant spending reforms attached, according to a recent poll from Ending Spending and the American Action Forum.

House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) said Wednesday following a meeting at the White House that the president had ”reiterated one more time tonight that he will not negotiate.” Obama and most Democrats favor a “clean” debt-ceiling hike without spending reforms attached. Meanwhile, House GOP leaders are said to be working on a larger budget deal to end the government and raise the debt ceiling with reforms."

Poll: Americans Want Obama to Negotiate | National Review Online

KEY FINDINGS
1. AN OPPORTUNITY: Obama is badly bruised. The President's numbers aren't strong, with an underwater approval rating (43% approve, 49% disapprove), and a generic congressional ballot that has Republicans ahead by 4 points (40% GOP, 36%DEM)

Just read the rest yourself:

http://www.endingspending.com/docs/debtceilingpoll.pdf

I'm sure he will right after Boehner opens up government.

 

[rightwinger]

What are Republucans bringing to the negotiation?

What are they offering to give up?

 

[editec]

Oh yeah, National Review... a truly unbiased news sourse.



That said, Obama and the DEMS would be damned fools to buckle under to the TEBAGGERS.

After all the GOP already has, the DEMs don't need to follow them down that rathole.