[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

[Cecilie1200]

Government helps competive businesses by making a fair field for smaller companies.

One of the better things that came out of the early 20th century is the government can break apart abusive corporations.

Wow. Someone sure brainwashed you into the perfect little leftist government drone, didn't they?

 

[Gadawg73]

What is fair is always what a liberal considers fair under the guidelines that it is someone else's fair share.

 

[johnwk]

We need a flat tax and a fiscally conservative and limited government which has its budget under control, coupled with worker's unions that are actually involved with those they are representing in order to negotiate what a fair wage is between the employer and employee without having mindless legislators suggesting they know better what a fair wage is, having no knowledge of the job or the profits earned and then forcing their decision through the coercion of force.

You support a thieving tax upon the bread a working person earns by the sweat of their labor and also would deprive the working person their inalienable right to negotiate the value of their own labor?

JWK


They are not “liberals”. They are conniving Marxist parasites who use the cloak of government force to steal the wealth which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create

 

[johnwk]

What is fair is always what a liberal considers fair under the guidelines that it is someone else's fair share.

And our founding fathers provided a fair share formula in our Constitution:



States’ pop.
---------------- X SUM NEEDED = STATE’S FAIR SHARE
U.S. Pop.


JWK


George Nicholas, during the ratification debates of our Constitution says:

“The proportion of taxes are fixed by the number of inhabitants, and not regulated by the extent of the territory, or fertility of soil”3 Elliot’s, 243,“Each state will know, from its population, its proportion of any general tax” 3 Elliot’s, 244

 

[Gadawg73]

What is fair is always what a liberal considers fair under the guidelines that it is someone else's fair share.

And our founding fathers provided a fair share formula in our Constitution:



States’ pop.
---------------- X SUM NEEDED = STATE’S FAIR SHARE
U.S. Pop.


JWK


George Nicholas, during the ratification debates of our Constitution says:

“The proportion of taxes are fixed by the number of inhabitants, and not regulated by the extent of the territory, or fertility of soil”3 Elliot’s, 243,“Each state will know, from its population, its proportion of any general tax” 3 Elliot’s, 244

There was no income tax when this nation was founded.

 

[PMZ]

Because he was forced to clean up after Jimmy Carter. It takes a lot of money to rebuild the military after each Dumbocrat administration dismantles it completely.

Every time the Dumbocrats appeasement stragey fails (see Carter, Clinton, Obama), the Republican's have to clean up the mess that's left. It's unfortunate, but a reality of having ignorant Dumbocrats in your nation.

Now we pay for more than half of the military in the world. I thought that you didn't like high taxes. Must have been another Rotweiner.

The military is only 18% of our budget. We have high taxes to pay for all your Democrat socialist boondoggles.

The military is more than half of our discretionary budget.

 

[PMZ]

He's not so much dumb Bripat (I mean, obviously he is) as much as he is a parasite who is desperate to push the Dumbocrat agenda so he can keep living his life as a parasite to his fellow citizens.

I'm shredding him to pieces in another thread and all he does is shit like this - he keeps claiming Obama never lied, Obama didn't collapse the U.S. economy, etc. And my personal favorite, after adding dozens of links which shows that millions of Americans have lost their health insurance policies, he actually keeps claiming that "nobody has lost their health insurance"...

Obviously, nobody is that dumb. Not even PMZ. He just thinks he can convince people that Obama and the Dumbocrats have not been as big of failures as they actually have been.

Where did they lose them?

It's good that we have competition for health insurance. If you don't like your insurance company, buy from another.

Obamacare is destroying competition, not creating it. Government is what prevented competition in the first place. The only "uncompetitive" markets are the ones where government outlaws competition.

What you wish was true. None of it is though. Your brain has been washed clean of your eighth grade education.

 

[PMZ]

We need a flat tax and a fiscally conservative and limited government which has its budget under control, coupled with worker's unions that are actually involved with those they are representing in order to negotiate what a fair wage is between the employer and employee without having mindless legislators suggesting they know better what a fair wage is, having no knowledge of the job or the profits earned and then forcing their decision through the coercion of force.

We need business to perform in a way that competes with the rest of the world. They have forgotten how.

 

[PMZ]

Let get this straight: You're claiming Obama wasn't lying when he said people could keep their current policies?

If so, you're even dumber than I thought. Obamacare forced the insurance companies to change their policies, and Obama knew it would. You're one of the imbeciles that Obama counts on.

You're one of the imbeciles that I count on. You are the poster boy for the Fox Opinions cult.

All of the insurance companies had a free choice. Grandfather or new. They all chose. Some to grandfather, some not.

Wrong, asshole, they had no choice. Obamacare took away their choices. Obamacare forced them to cover people with pre-exisitng conditions. Obamacare forced them to cover "children" up to 26 years of age. It forced them to make every policy include, obstetrics, birth control, abortion, sex change operations, psychiatric care, and a host of other expensive additions.

You have to be a totally brain damaged Obama fluffer to believe they had any choice in the matter.



Not when government gets in the way, moron.

I don't know what % chose what, but I think that they are flirting with single payer.

Who is "they?" I thought you supported increasing competition, not eliminating it.

Their customers, like they do as an electorate, will decide the winners and losers.

Not if Obamacare remains in place. The whole point of Obamacare is taking choice away from consumers.

Yes it does. The choice of getting screwed by the insurance company. The choice of dumping your health care costs on others.

 

[PMZ]

Government helps competive businesses by making a fair field for smaller companies.

One of the better things that came out of the early 20th century is the government can break apart abusive corporations.

Wow. Someone sure brainwashed you into the perfect little leftist government drone, didn't they?

No. Fox Opinions brain washed you onto a well trained American Taliban extremist.

 

[PMZ]

What is fair is always what a liberal considers fair under the guidelines that it is someone else's fair share.

And what is fair to the American Taliban is no responsibility for anything.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Government helps competive businesses by making a fair field for smaller companies.

In exactly the same manner that Crocodiles help Wildebeests cross rivers.

One of the better things that came out of the early 20th century is the government can break apart abusive corporations.

Yeah, I noticed that with TARP..

You don't HAVE to be a fucking retard to be a leftist...

Oh wait, yeah, I guess you do...

 

[Uncensored2008]

The only problem with your theory is that government never does that. Almost every time it does precisely the opposite. It outlaws competition. That's what it did with insurance companies when it ruled that states could prevent companies from outside a state from offering their products.

Whenever we have a problem with a lack of competition, government is always to blame.

Matthew thinks that abortionists help babies survive....

Matthew is a fucking retard.

Matthew is a leftist.

 

[PMZ]

The goose stepping right is clear. Every thing broadcast on Fox Opinions is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

How is that known? It feels right. Fox Opinions says is right. It clearly creates the hobgoblin of little minds, black or white simplicity. Scapegoats and aristocracy.

It makes winners from losers and vice versa.

 

[bripat9643]

Now we pay for more than half of the military in the world. I thought that you didn't like high taxes. Must have been another Rotweiner.

The military is only 18% of our budget. We have high taxes to pay for all your Democrat socialist boondoggles.

The military is more than half of our discretionary budget.

The entire budget is "discretionary," as if that was actual relevant to this discussion.


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[PMZ]

The military is only 18% of our budget. We have high taxes to pay for all your Democrat socialist boondoggles.

The military is more than half of our discretionary budget.

The entire budget is "discretionary," as if that was actual relevant to this discussion.


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Here's a not surprising bit of ignorance.

 

[johnwk]

What is fair is always what a liberal considers fair under the guidelines that it is someone else's fair share.

And our founding fathers provided a fair share formula in our Constitution:



States’ pop.
---------------- X SUM NEEDED = STATE’S FAIR SHARE
U.S. Pop.


JWK


George Nicholas, during the ratification debates of our Constitution says:

“The proportion of taxes are fixed by the number of inhabitants, and not regulated by the extent of the territory, or fertility of soil”3 Elliot’s, 243,“Each state will know, from its population, its proportion of any general tax” 3 Elliot’s, 244

There was no income tax when this nation was founded.

That is true. I believe most people know that. Did you have something else to add?


JWK

 

[Gadawg73]

What is fair is always what a liberal considers fair under the guidelines that it is someone else's fair share.

And what is fair to the American Taliban is no responsibility for anything.

Name an American that locks little girls into schools, sets the building on fire and reads the Koran praising Allah as the girls scream while they are burned alive like the Taliban does.
You live in LA LA land and take for granted that you live in the greatest nation on earth.
Move if you do not like it here.
Delta is ready when you are.
Comparing anything American to the Taliban is a fraud that only a fool parrots.

 

[Gadawg73]

So easy to be a liberal when you are plundering and spending the money earned by other people.
But hey, socialism is great up until you run out of money.
And we ran out long ago.

 

[bripat9643]

What is fair is always what a liberal considers fair under the guidelines that it is someone else's fair share.

And what is fair to the American Taliban is no responsibility for anything.

What am I responsible for?