POTUS Has Cut Funding to Planned Parenthood

[candycorn]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
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On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

I have a feeling this is not going to have the effect he's hoping for.

Please, tell us more

-Geaux

I agree with Lysistrata. To cut down on abortions, we need to cut down on unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Planned Parenthood does that better than any other organization. So taking money from PP is going to increase unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that take place because of them.:

Not to go there again but I think it’s important to point something out….

The government doesn’t fund planned parent hood. Never has, never will.

What HHS does is make funding available through Title X for family planning services. It offers monies to those organizations that can provide those services. Planned Parenthood is a vendor who is awarded the grant. The county health clinic where you live is likely another. Theoretically Banner Health could qualify if it wanted to offer the services of it’s nurses, counselors, and navigators for much less than is standard and customary.

The changes to Title X, which will prohibit federal funds to any organization that helps connect women with abortion providers,

So is this wrong, Candy? It doesn't sound as if this is about the reimbursement scale.

The Hyde Amendment prevents federal money from going to pay for abortions.

 

[Lysistrata]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
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On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

I have a feeling this is not going to have the effect he's hoping for.

Please, tell us more

-Geaux

I agree with Lysistrata. To cut down on abortions, we need to cut down on unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Planned Parenthood does that better than any other organization. So taking money from PP is going to increase unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that take place because of them.:

Not to go there again but I think it’s important to point something out….

The government doesn’t fund planned parent hood. Never has, never will.

What HHS does is make funding available through Title X for family planning services. It offers monies to those organizations that can provide those services. Planned Parenthood is a vendor who is awarded the grant. The county health clinic where you live is likely another. Theoretically Banner Health could qualify if it wanted to offer the services of it’s nurses, counselors, and navigators for much less than is standard and customary.

The changes to Title X, which will prohibit federal funds to any organization that helps connect women with abortion providers,

So is this wrong, Candy? It doesn't sound as if this is about the reimbursement scale.

It does involve the federal government becoming involved in a religious/ideological debate and taking one side against the other. There is at least an equal amount of Americans who are pro-choice as those who are anti-choice.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The hospitals still get to appropriate money however they want, so.

 

[g5000]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
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On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

so he gives them 500 million then takes back 60 million that will most likely be stopped in the courts,,,not sure how that is defunding them

When did Trump give PP $500 million?

 

[candycorn]

I have a feeling this is not going to have the effect he's hoping for.

Please, tell us more

-Geaux

I agree with Lysistrata. To cut down on abortions, we need to cut down on unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Planned Parenthood does that better than any other organization. So taking money from PP is going to increase unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that take place because of them.:

Not to go there again but I think it’s important to point something out….

The government doesn’t fund planned parent hood. Never has, never will.

What HHS does is make funding available through Title X for family planning services. It offers monies to those organizations that can provide those services. Planned Parenthood is a vendor who is awarded the grant. The county health clinic where you live is likely another. Theoretically Banner Health could qualify if it wanted to offer the services of it’s nurses, counselors, and navigators for much less than is standard and customary.

The changes to Title X, which will prohibit federal funds to any organization that helps connect women with abortion providers,

So is this wrong, Candy? It doesn't sound as if this is about the reimbursement scale.

It does involve the federal government becoming involved in a religious/ideological debate and taking one side against the other. There is at least an equal amount of Americans who are pro-choice as those who are anti-choice.

Yeah, there’s that. But more incredible along the lines of “brazenly stupid” and “unbelievably stupid” is that the family planning professionals at PP and other healthcare providers are being bypassed in favor of FBOs whose mission is voluntarily dual purpose, to prothletise and to provide healthcare. I don’t think the FBOs are aware of the clientele they are about to invite into their house. I’d like all of the decisions doctors and nurses are making about healthcare to be based 100% on medical science and not some sort of religious dogma.

 

[g5000]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
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On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

Less access to birth control equal more abortions.

And here I thought you people were against abortions.

One more thing the "right" lies about.

The 60 million was used for abortion.

Nope.

 

[progressive hunter]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
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On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

so he gives them 500 million then takes back 60 million that will most likely be stopped in the courts,,,not sure how that is defunding them

When did Trump give PP $500 million?

when he signed the budget bill last yr

 

[g5000]

Planned Parenthood is being forced to CHOOSE between providing health care to impoverished women and abortion.

Every time PP is forced to choose, they choose abortion over health care.

Every. Time.

 

[progressive hunter]

Planned Parenthood is being forced to CHOOSE between providing health care to impoverished women and abortion.

Every time PP is forced to choose, they choose abortion over health care.

Every. Time.

nobodys forcing them,,,they choose it freely

 

[g5000]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
-------

On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

so he gives them 500 million then takes back 60 million that will most likely be stopped in the courts,,,not sure how that is defunding them

When did Trump give PP $500 million?

when he signed the budget bill last yr

You got that wrong.

PP receives about $500 million TOTAL from federal and state governments. However, the GOP health care bill last year cut funding to PP: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...37ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.bf6c377adb6d

 

[OldLady]

I have a feeling this is not going to have the effect he's hoping for.

Please, tell us more

-Geaux

I agree with Lysistrata. To cut down on abortions, we need to cut down on unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Planned Parenthood does that better than any other organization. So taking money from PP is going to increase unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that take place because of them.:

Not to go there again but I think it’s important to point something out….

The government doesn’t fund planned parent hood. Never has, never will.

What HHS does is make funding available through Title X for family planning services. It offers monies to those organizations that can provide those services. Planned Parenthood is a vendor who is awarded the grant. The county health clinic where you live is likely another. Theoretically Banner Health could qualify if it wanted to offer the services of it’s nurses, counselors, and navigators for much less than is standard and customary.

The changes to Title X, which will prohibit federal funds to any organization that helps connect women with abortion providers,

So is this wrong, Candy? It doesn't sound as if this is about the reimbursement scale.

The Hyde Amendment prevents federal money from going to pay for abortions.

It doesn't say they are going to stop paying for abortions. It says it won't reimburse any organization that helps women connect with abortion providers.

That doesn't sound like a very kosher law, to me. But I hear he has already used it on organizations outside the US. Couldn't this almost be seen as a freedom of speech issue? As a provider, I'd be mad as hell if D.C. told me what I could counsel my patient.
Fuck that.

 

[g5000]

Planned Parenthood is being forced to CHOOSE between providing health care to impoverished women and abortion.

Every time PP is forced to choose, they choose abortion over health care.

Every. Time.

nobodys forcing them,,,they choose it freely

They are forced to choose. Either give up abortion, or lose federal funding.

 

[OldLady]

Planned Parenthood is being forced to CHOOSE between providing health care to impoverished women and abortion.

Every time PP is forced to choose, they choose abortion over health care.

Every. Time.

They should not be forced to choose.

 

[g5000]

Please, tell us more

-Geaux

I agree with Lysistrata. To cut down on abortions, we need to cut down on unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Planned Parenthood does that better than any other organization. So taking money from PP is going to increase unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that take place because of them.:

Not to go there again but I think it’s important to point something out….

The government doesn’t fund planned parent hood. Never has, never will.

What HHS does is make funding available through Title X for family planning services. It offers monies to those organizations that can provide those services. Planned Parenthood is a vendor who is awarded the grant. The county health clinic where you live is likely another. Theoretically Banner Health could qualify if it wanted to offer the services of it’s nurses, counselors, and navigators for much less than is standard and customary.

The changes to Title X, which will prohibit federal funds to any organization that helps connect women with abortion providers,

So is this wrong, Candy? It doesn't sound as if this is about the reimbursement scale.

The Hyde Amendment prevents federal money from going to pay for abortions.

It doesn't say they are going to stop paying for abortions. It says it won't reimburse any organization that helps women connect with abortion providers.

That doesn't sound like a very kosher law, to me. But I hear he has already used it on organizations outside the US. Couldn't this almost be seen as a freedom of speech issue? As a provider, I'd be mad as hell if D.C. told me what I could counsel my patient.
Fuck that.

PP is free to tell people where to get an abortion. They just won't be paid to do so by the government.

 

[progressive hunter]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
-------

On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

so he gives them 500 million then takes back 60 million that will most likely be stopped in the courts,,,not sure how that is defunding them

When did Trump give PP $500 million?

when he signed the budget bill last yr

You got that wrong.

PP receives about $500 million TOTAL from federal and state governments. However, the GOP health care bill last year cut funding to PP: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...37ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.bf6c377adb6d

not that one,,, it was a funding bill

 

[g5000]

Planned Parenthood is being forced to CHOOSE between providing health care to impoverished women and abortion.

Every time PP is forced to choose, they choose abortion over health care.

Every. Time.

They should not be forced to choose.

Taxpayers should not be forced to support them.

 

[g5000]

Another promise kept

-Geaux
-------

On Friday, President Trump kept another one of his campaign promises by signing off on an administrative rule change that will effectively eliminate roughly $60 million in federal family-planning money for Planned Parenthood and instead direct it toward faith-based institutions that are opposed to abortion.

Dems Threaten To Sue As Trump Cuts Funding For Planned Parenthood

so he gives them 500 million then takes back 60 million that will most likely be stopped in the courts,,,not sure how that is defunding them

When did Trump give PP $500 million?

when he signed the budget bill last yr

You got that wrong.

PP receives about $500 million TOTAL from federal and state governments. However, the GOP health care bill last year cut funding to PP: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...37ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.bf6c377adb6d

not that one,,, it was a funding bill

Link?

 

[progressive hunter]

Planned Parenthood is being forced to CHOOSE between providing health care to impoverished women and abortion.

Every time PP is forced to choose, they choose abortion over health care.

Every. Time.

nobodys forcing them,,,they choose it freely

They are forced to choose. Either give up abortion, or lose federal funding.

why is fed money going to a private company??

 

[g5000]

Planned Parenthood is being forced to CHOOSE between providing health care to impoverished women and abortion.

Every time PP is forced to choose, they choose abortion over health care.

Every. Time.

nobodys forcing them,,,they choose it freely

They are forced to choose. Either give up abortion, or lose federal funding.

why is fed money going to a private company??

Federal money goes to just about every health care provider in America. Did you not know this?

 

[rightwinger]

And the war on women and women's health continues.

No, its the war to stop the senseless killing of life just because someone wanted to get their rocks off

-Geaux

Birth control prevents abortion. Simple idea.

The war against women has been going on for some time. It remains unexplained.

quote: "Birth control prevents abortion. Simple idea."​

Idiot. Birth control by chemical or physical means is a gateway drug to abortion as a rite of passage. Chemicals hurt women, and physical means can cause toxic shock in a shocking number of women. The maturation process means a woman grows up to meet the requirements of the job of being a mother, and she needs to be mature enough to see that a man must want to be the father and provider for their offspring first. If he doesn't, he is not mature enough to have sex that begets new American citizens. The only way to assure him he will participate in the creative process of fulfilling his part is sometimes just to simply kick his sorry ass. You can do that by putting him in a holding cell until he realizes sex with another guy's ass takes his dna and puts it in the toilet, literally. That's IDIOTIC in procreation necessary to bring society to full strength. Forget that one detail, and you're groveling somewhere between being yoked like cattle to a strongman with a whip or living in Siberia above the arctic circle where you can't bother anybody else who has to preside over a half-assed society missing men who were talked into this repugnant lifestyle that requires you to accept poop smells when you orgasm that never results in the joy of having a real son to father through helplessness of infancy and to carry through life to his adulthood when he becomes a man. I mean no harm to present gays to do not realize what happened to them to make them live the way they are. I'm just pointing out what ought to be in my opinion. Parents often miss the boat of telling their child of this danger, because they never heard of it. That's why no matter what the facts of dna get ignored by the gay community. They build attitudes around their choices, and that quite often separates them from horrified parents they ultimately abandon with insults on both sides. Maybe the Pilgrims I've heard belittled endlessly here as know-nothings had it right. Put the idiots in public stocks until they get the picture there might be something wrong with the behavior that put 'em there as many times as it takes to make them whole people when they come to the realization: when told to act like an adult, you better act like one or get the aching back you're causing your parents on you, not them.

And about this spoof that if a guy goes gay, it's his mama's fault. ---NOT! Gayness has never been associated with a gene issue either. It's a goddamn choice a person is usually coerced into by a lower-than-snakesnot NAMBLA idiot/warrior who has a deceptive persuasion superior to a sadistic rapist's spiel, who then leaves his victim to feeling humiliation that turns to lust for others of the same sex. This is a nation that has produced a lot of wayward people over losing the core meaning of freedom. People get introduced into deleterious lifestyles, and that's when the "change" occurs. It occurs because the victim who has no place to turn hides his shame is convinced by masters of deception that "it" doesn't matter. That's hubris. It does matter, and there are ways early on a young man can return to a heterosexual lifestyle by placing theoretical clouding of opinion into their proper perspective--they basically want to extract from you your sense of duty, honor, and financial support that doesn't require too much sexual fidelity. After a man accepts the lifestyle, the brain of him fools himself to trash his parents, old friends, having children with a wife, and if he is married, he trashes wife, children, in-laws. Everybody is out except his world of gay bars and taboo sex along with its unsavory side that sickens a lot of people who didn't go that way. Even so, we have no choice but to accept this miserable set of decisions, with a live and let live attitude that things acceptable to that person's peers life just got out of control due to bonding issues.

Biblical authors are often criticized by scientists whose lives are lived in a theoretical cloud and not down where the rubber hits the road. What is freedom? Is it freedom from good behavior, replaced by all that's left--bad behavior? Doh, of course not. But because of arguments that should have failed winning in court, we're at the mercy of justice perverted from its context to mean something else.

This nation did not become a world power because of the ill-advised right to abort based on sexist irresponsibility. It became great because women and men exercised wisdom in family matters and focused on children becoming educated not only in the basic 3, reading writing and arithmetic, they were encouraged to adopt spiritual values, family responsibilities, and creative leadership.

Then along came televised evangelists who kept the limelight off their personal proclivities which when discovered were ascribed by people with Marxist enthusiasm as the reason society had problems as they bettered themselves politically at the expense of probity. TV evangelists got a lot of money promised to do good in the world, but actually were enriching themselves with lifestyles of playboys, and partnerships that skimmed off the profits, not to mention almost all of that money promised to do God's work, which became only nominal under self-serving ripoffs going on in those--gain, theoretical clouding of opinion.

Oh, and people who no longer wanted to live good lifestyles that produced a future for the nation turned away from churches. Their excuse was timely--obfuscating real life and blaming everything on anybody else handy to blame. The losers were those who sent money to liars, protected by the anonymity televised prophecies afford bad people and people with hidden agendas. Certain politicians adopted this credo. Lie on television, nobody catches on for a long, long time.

A beloved member of my family supported a televangelist to justify leaving her family's church, then her husband, her children, and everyone in her immediate family. She was indoctrinated into televangelism by a friend who wanted her to have no family ties and bragged about being a DNC governor's favorite cousin. Guess who she cheated with all that power she had over my beloved sister. Political people can use affiliation with a tv evangelist to tear someone else's responsible family apart. Democrats are vicious dog-eat-dog character assassins, devious to family ties to destroy everybody else they disagree with if you let them. Don't you let them.

Birth control has changed our society and liberated women from a lifetime of childbirth

Planned Parenthood was at the forefront of actually being able to discuss birth control and voluntary sterilization.

Prior to birth control, women had 6-12 children in their lifetime. Women were tied to maternity and were unable to enter the workforce

A lot of that had to do with either religion, work, or both. Many times people had kids because before long, they would grow up to work on the farm. Many Christian religions taught no birth control.

No, people had lots of children because they liked to fuk.

The more they did it, the more children they would have. Women would bear children from the time they were married until their 40s

It put a financial strain on the family and kept women barefoot and pregnant

Planned Parenthood changed all that