JakeStarkey
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This race is now Trumps to lose, because the others can't win it.
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Not awarding Trump the nomination? It's what started our discussion. You said i'm in "serious denial" because I think a guy who isn't getting more than a third of the Republican vote consistently and turns off the other 2/3 won't win. Yeah, I think he won't win the nomination
Well who the hell do you think is going to win it, kaz? Rubio who is literally afraid to address a conservative audience? Cruz who everyone has suddenly turned into a bigger liar than Hillary Clinton? Maybe you think Carson is poised to make a comeback... or maybe your boy Rand Paul will suddenly jump back in the race to save the day?
I just don't see any scenario where Trump doesn't win at this point. The very thing that propelled Trump to the top from Day 1 has been his strong stand on illegal immigration... that's Rubio's #1 weakness! Have you failed to notice that Trump has not gone after Rubio at all? Rubio hasn't gone after Trump... they both want to be the Top 2... and in that scenario, Trump is going to eat his proverbial lunch.
He's very different. no one puts 1) Rubio 2) Trump 3) Cruz. Trump is #1 or #3 for virtually everyone
Not true.. I have had it 1) Cruz 2) Trump 3) Carson for months.
You and three other people
Well no... I've heard MANY people say... I am supporting [whoever] but I'll vote for Trump over Hillary!
I'm talking about the nomination. I said nothing about the election
I'm talking about the nomination. I said nothing about the election
I'm talking about the nomination too... you keep switching to talking about who you're going to vote for and who you won't vote for. You said you don't think Trump will win the nomination. I asked you who you thought would win and you said "not my problem" but that doesn't answer the question. I'm not asking you who you can vote for or who you think will win the election.
I'm talking about the nomination. I said nothing about the election
I'm talking about the nomination too... you keep switching to talking about who you're going to vote for and who you won't vote for. You said you don't think Trump will win the nomination. I asked you who you thought would win and you said "not my problem" but that doesn't answer the question. I'm not asking you who you can vote for or who you think will win the election.
Kasich is a real conservative but does not tolerate the nutty TPM.i believe Trump is on record as having said he will pick an experienced politician. Of course that can change especially with The Donald but it makes some sense.
I think ideally for him it would be an experienced solid conservative -- that addresses 2 concerns -- his experience and his conservative credentials. Who that would be ideally is another question. Some suggest Kasich - and in fact they feel its the only reason he is staying in right now - but Kasich has a BIG problem with the conservative base. Groups like Red State despise him. It will be an interesting pick for sure. Doubt it will be Carl Ichan
Kasich is a real conservative but does not tolerate the nutty TPM.i believe Trump is on record as having said he will pick an experienced politician. Of course that can change especially with The Donald but it makes some sense.
I think ideally for him it would be an experienced solid conservative -- that addresses 2 concerns -- his experience and his conservative credentials. Who that would be ideally is another question. Some suggest Kasich - and in fact they feel its the only reason he is staying in right now - but Kasich has a BIG problem with the conservative base. Groups like Red State despise him. It will be an interesting pick for sure. Doubt it will be Carl Ichan
The Trump nuts don't care whether Kasich is conservative or not. They want him to go away.Kasich is a real conservative but does not tolerate the nutty TPM.i believe Trump is on record as having said he will pick an experienced politician. Of course that can change especially with The Donald but it makes some sense.
I think ideally for him it would be an experienced solid conservative -- that addresses 2 concerns -- his experience and his conservative credentials. Who that would be ideally is another question. Some suggest Kasich - and in fact they feel its the only reason he is staying in right now - but Kasich has a BIG problem with the conservative base. Groups like Red State despise him. It will be an interesting pick for sure. Doubt it will be Carl Ichan
Fair enough but it is in the eye of the beholder. That being said he cant break double digits in the reddest states and so far has done well (and not all that well at that) in NH where he got a lot of Democrats to vote for him who were torn between him and Bernie Sanders.
The CPAC poll is also interesting. Like them or not that is pretty conservative territory and he came in last behind even Trump who they claimed to have been insulted by when he didn't show up and who a lot of don't even consider to a conservative in the slightest.
So its not to argue the point but just to pint out there are a LOT of people who don't see him that way at all and they tend to be a pretty important part of the GOP coalition
i believe Trump is on record as having said he will pick an experienced politician. Of course that can change especially with The Donald but it makes some sense.
I think ideally for him it would be an experienced solid conservative -- that addresses 2 concerns -- his experience and his conservative credentials. Who that would be ideally is another question. Some suggest Kasich - and in fact they feel its the only reason he is staying in right now - but Kasich has a BIG problem with the conservative base. Groups like Red State despise him. It will be an interesting pick for sure. Doubt it will be Carl Ichan
There were not many 'trump nuts' at CPAC. The vast majority of those that are not voting Trump and are not Trump nuts also do not see Kasich as a conservative either as evidenced by the abysmal numbers he is getting.The Trump nuts don't care whether Kasich is conservative or not. They want him to go away.Kasich is a real conservative but does not tolerate the nutty TPM.i believe Trump is on record as having said he will pick an experienced politician. Of course that can change especially with The Donald but it makes some sense.
I think ideally for him it would be an experienced solid conservative -- that addresses 2 concerns -- his experience and his conservative credentials. Who that would be ideally is another question. Some suggest Kasich - and in fact they feel its the only reason he is staying in right now - but Kasich has a BIG problem with the conservative base. Groups like Red State despise him. It will be an interesting pick for sure. Doubt it will be Carl Ichan
Fair enough but it is in the eye of the beholder. That being said he cant break double digits in the reddest states and so far has done well (and not all that well at that) in NH where he got a lot of Democrats to vote for him who were torn between him and Bernie Sanders.
The CPAC poll is also interesting. Like them or not that is pretty conservative territory and he came in last behind even Trump who they claimed to have been insulted by when he didn't show up and who a lot of don't even consider to a conservative in the slightest.
So its not to argue the point but just to pint out there are a LOT of people who don't see him that way at all and they tend to be a pretty important part of the GOP coalition