Progressivs and the Nazi regime

[jon_berzerk]

I've come on here before and make comparisons about the Nazi regime and modern day progressives. Despite the objection of Godwin and company, the comparisons are far to easy to make. For example:

1. Both were in love with Keynesian economics. In fact, it was said that the Nazi regime proved Keynesian economics worked before the theory had been finished. Keynes even admired the Nazi regime and remarked that a totalitarian state was ideal to implement his theory. Conversely, a free market was most unsuitable for properly implementing his theory.

2. Since both followed Keynesian theory, both ran massive deficits. In fact, Hitler forbad passing budgets after 1935, much like we have seen in Congress for years. Neither like to bring attention to their spending with wreckless abandon.

3. Both spend their money on two major projects. They spend money on the military and massive entitlements to help quell a war weary populace. By all accounts it works. In fact, Germany was the first to mandate health insurance.

4. Both are obsessed with the environment and animal rights.

5. Both favor gun control and Hitler was the first to achieve this goal.

6. Both have the dream of a one world order with them pulling the strings behind the curtain.

But I digress. I've always seen how progressives follow the Nazi way of thinking, but I've never considered how the Nazi regime may have followed the progressives at the turn of the 20th century until now.

History News Network | The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

It seems that mainstream scientists within the US at the turn of the 20 century were obsessed with eugenics. The question must be asked, to what degree did they fuel the flames of the Holocaust?

It's chilling is it not?

yes it has been known for a long time

 

[jon_berzerk]

People should start calling them what they were, national socialists.

For me, the left/right label is meaningless. It all comes down to collectivism.

If you noticed, at the turn of the 20th century Wilson created the collectivist state in the US through such legislation as a federal income tax and central bank in order to create a war machine to fight off the collectivists in Europe. Then FDR further centralized the government to help fight off the Nazi war machine.

By all accounts, it would appear that in order to build an army capable of world domination, collectivism is the key. Just be careful not to become what you are fighting, because it is next to impossible to stop the slide.

well, the obamacare is a classic example of the nazi policies.

At least the Nazis were good at the shit they did.

This crew in the White House if they really wanted to exterminate a whole batch of conservatives would fuck it up by getting an EPA audit before putting in solar ovens for crying out loud.

At least the Nazis were good at the shit they did.

not really

for the most part the inner circle was filled with yes men

that did as hitler said regardless of the outcome

 

[jon_berzerk]

I've come on here before and make comparisons about the Nazi regime and modern day progressives. Despite the objection of Godwin and company, the comparisons are far to easy to make. For example:

1. Both were in love with Keynesian economics. In fact, it was said that the Nazi regime proved Keynesian economics worked before the theory had been finished. Keynes even admired the Nazi regime and remarked that a totalitarian state was ideal to implement his theory. Conversely, a free market was most unsuitable for properly implementing his theory.

2. Since both followed Keynesian theory, both ran massive deficits. In fact, Hitler forbad passing budgets after 1935, much like we have seen in Congress for years. Neither like to bring attention to their spending with wreckless abandon.

3. Both spend their money on two major projects. They spend money on the military and massive entitlements to help quell a war weary populace. By all accounts it works. In fact, Germany was the first to mandate health insurance.

4. Both are obsessed with the environment and animal rights.

5. Both favor gun control and Hitler was the first to achieve this goal.

6. Both have the dream of a one world order with them pulling the strings behind the curtain.

But I digress. I've always seen how progressives follow the Nazi way of thinking, but I've never considered how the Nazi regime may have followed the progressives at the turn of the 20th century until now.

History News Network | The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

It seems that mainstream scientists within the US at the turn of the 20 century were obsessed with eugenics. The question must be asked, to what degree did they fuel the flames of the Holocaust?

Crack a history book for Christ's sake.

Do you know what Hitler did with Progressives?

He sent them to concentration camps or had them shot on the spot.

All labor union leaders were executed.

then he instituted his own unions

 

[Votto]

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[Political Junky]

Prescott Bush, who financed Hitler, was a progressive? Someone should tell the Bush family.

Bush never financed Hitler, asshole.

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian

 

[bripat9643]

Prescott Bush, who financed Hitler, was a progressive? Someone should tell the Bush family.

Bush never financed Hitler, asshole.

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian

All it says is that Bush's company did business with other companies that financed Hitler. Big whoop. If Coca Cola had a soda machine in their office, they did the same. If they bought automobiles from General Motors, then GM did the same.

I have a cousin who knew a guy who's grandfather was in the Wehrmacht. That makes me some kind of Nazi, according to your logic.

 

[Votto]

Prescott Bush, who financed Hitler, was a progressive? Someone should tell the Bush family.

Bush never financed Hitler, asshole.

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian

The Bush family are progressives.

Here is a taste.



Notice the lingo of the one world order?

This is what every collectivist is after. They think by consolidating power, they can snuff out lawbreakers.

We all know what Hitler was after with his one world order, but what of these collectivists? That is up for debate. Hitler spent his nation into the ground knowing it was either total victory in war, which means debt would have meant nothing if he won, or total destruction, which is what happened.

But what of these collectivists today? What is their vision of a one world order? With most of the world pretty much conquered, except for pockets of resistance in places like Iran and North Korea, what does their vision look like?

Hitler knew that his economic course was not sustainable, and we even hear president Obama say the same, but he does not flinch. So what is the end game here for globalists like Obama?

Like all collectivists, they create a crisis and then mold power around it. Hitler was but one example.

 

[Votto]

I suppose no one here sees the progressive side of the GOP. Well who started it all? Was it not Teddy Roosevelt?

From my vantage point, collectivists are on both sides of the isle. The GOP defends the military complex and the DNC defends the nanny state. Both defend different sides of the same coin and make very little difference to me.

Do I want to promote the next GOP collectivist one size fits all legislation to fix the world? No, I will only support movements to promote state rights. Men like Mark Levin have it right who wrote the Liberty Amendments, the only hope is for states to rise up and amend the Constitution in order to right the ship, just like how the progressives hijacked the nation at the turn of the 20th century.

 

[Moonglow]

Well seige heil, ya mother.

 

[francoHFW]

OP- HORSE PATOOT. KEYNES WAS NEVER IN FAVOR OF A WAR BASED ECONOMY, FINANCED BY CONFISCATING JEWISH ASSETS, BUT AT SUCH A HIGH DEBT THAT THEY had TO GO ON A WAR OF CONQUEST TO AVERT CATASTROPHE. oops

NO non Pub expert or Cheney believe Obama's shrinking deficit type debt is any real problem that is CAUSING any problems- what we need is the recovery the TP keeps wrecking...

 

[Votto]

OP- HORSE PATOOT. KEYNES WAS NEVER IN FAVOR OF A WAR BASED ECONOMY, FINANCED BY CONFISCATING JEWISH ASSETS, BUT AT SUCH A HIGH DEBT THAT THEY had TO GO ON A WAR OF CONQUEST TO AVERT CATASTROPHE. oops

NO non Pub expert or Cheney believe Obama's shrinking deficit type debt is any real problem that is CAUSING any problems- what we need is the recovery the TP keeps wrecking...

Dick Cheney? Dick Cheney was the man that said Reagan proved that deficits no longer matter.

You mistake me for a partisan GOP hack. Both parties are on the same Keynesian page here, they spend to fight financial meltdown. In fact, they won't even pass budgets.

 

[francoHFW]

No I don't, and that was my point about Cheney- he agrees with all the experts who aren't bought off Pubscum...lol.

AND I don't believe Dems are evil, just limited by our electorate who are horribly misinformed by Pub and corporate interests...