NotfooledbyW
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Proof in writing that this country was not founded on any religion. 240513 {post•16}
theHawk May’24 Spiwtt: LOL more lies. The Founding Fathers endlessly debated about almost everything. . thvhvwk 240513 Spiwtt00016
Proof in writing that this country was not founded on any religion. 240520 {post•41}
NotfooledbyW May’24 Vpiwtt: The debate that mattered on a secular constitutional basis was between rational theists like Franklin Washington Adams Jefferson and Madison for a secular government tolerant of all religion versus the Connecticut Wits and all supernatural Cross of Jesus Bible believers.
The Cross of Christ was stricken from the Constitution because the rational theists won the debate.
You need to come to an understanding of the Connecticut wits in order to have a meaningful discussion on the relationship between Christianity and them original founding documents, the declaration of independence in the United States Constitution.
Here is an excerpt regarding the Connecticut wits.
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theHawk May’24 Spiwtt: LOL more lies. The Founding Fathers endlessly debated about almost everything. . thvhvwk 240513 Spiwtt00016
Proof in writing that this country was not founded on any religion. 240520 {post•41}
NotfooledbyW May’24 Vpiwtt: The debate that mattered on a secular constitutional basis was between rational theists like Franklin Washington Adams Jefferson and Madison for a secular government tolerant of all religion versus the Connecticut Wits and all supernatural Cross of Jesus Bible believers.
The Cross of Christ was stricken from the Constitution because the rational theists won the debate.
You need to come to an understanding of the Connecticut wits in order to have a meaningful discussion on the relationship between Christianity and them original founding documents, the declaration of independence in the United States Constitution.
Here is an excerpt regarding the Connecticut wits.
"The Origins of American Religious Nationalism." By Sam Haselby
Sam Haselby is a historian, an editor at Aeon Magazine and the author of "The Origins of American Religious Nationalism."July 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM
So there are insuperable obstacles to the Christian nationalist position. But there is also a neglected and fascinating history, key to American independence. Quite simply, America’s first patriots were acutely Christian and did envision, at least, an acutely Christian, which to them meant Protestant, nation. They issued the first calls for American independence. More specifically, America’s first nationalist movement was a small group of young New England writers at Yale College who were fiercely Christian. Timothy Dwight and John Trumbull were the group’s founding members, and by 1769, at the Yale College commencement, they publicly protested for American independence. Noah Webster, of dictionary fame, would later come into the group, too.
These young writers, who called themselves the Connecticut Wits, were terrible poets, but they were visionary American nationalists. Dwight’s epic poem, “The Conquest of Canaan,” portrayed an independent America as the new Holy Land. He began it in 1771. Most Americans, by contrast, supported reconciliation with Britain well into 1776. Years later, Dwight would complain that for their early, open advocacy of American independence they had suffered years of ridicule and contempt. John Trumbull’s 1773 poem “An Elegy of the Times” is a clear, repeated call, steeped in New England Protestantism, for nationalist revolution. Though I’ve never met anyone today who has read it, Trumbull’s 1775 poem “M’Fingal” was the best-selling poem of the American Revolution. It went through 30 editions, a feat no other American poet managed until Henry Wadsworth Longfellow in 1847. M’Fingal is a lampoon of the Scottish Enlightenment and a sclerotic Great Britain in the name of enlightened and vital independent, Protestant America
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