Public mass transportation

[Supposn]

Public mass transportation:

Existing common technology and practices enable local governments to enact or greatly increase their subsidies for mass transportation at lesser administrative costs.
Riders and mass transit enterprises are the direct beneficiaries of such subsidies which increase use of mass transit. Due to extents of rider increases;

Automotive traffic to, from, and within population or commercial centers are reduced;

more people are enabled to travel more often at lesser costs and durations of elapsed times;

More jobs are created within transportation industries;

It's particularly beneficial to both the employed and unemployed poor, and to both the younger and the elderly that are less physically able to walk longer distances.

Cities' and counties' governments should give greater consideration to more substantially subsidizing their mass transportation as possibly net economic and social beneficial to them. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nah.

 

[Dekster]

Public mass transportation:

Existing common technology and practices enable local governments to enact or greatly increase their subsidies for mass transportation at lesser administrative costs.
Riders and mass transit enterprises are the direct beneficiaries of such subsidies which increase use of mass transit. Due to extents of rider increases;

Automotive traffic to, from, and within population or commercial centers are reduced;

more people are enabled to travel more often at lesser costs and durations of elapsed times;

More jobs are created within transportation industries;

It's particularly beneficial to both the employed and unemployed poor, and to both the younger and the elderly that are less physically able to walk longer distances.

Cities' and counties' governments should give greater consideration to more substantially subsidizing their mass transportation as possibly net economic and social beneficial to them. Respectfully, Supposn

I can door to door to work in ten minutes. The only public transportation that tops that will have flashing lights and a siren.

 

[mamooth]

Public transportation isn't supposed to make money. It's a public service that civilized areas offer, along with sewage treatment and electricity.

 

[DGS49]

But here is the thing: Only a small percentage of the national population even has access to mass transit. Why should taxpayers in Potter County, PA, pay to subsidize the transportation costs of people in Phila-fucking-delphia? It is a difficult case to make.

I'm a supporter of Mass Transit. I worked for companies whose main customers were SEPTA, NYCTA, DART, BART, CTA, etc. But ideally the costs would be shared among the populations that have access.

Another big problem with mass transit is that it is horrifically expensive due to general government incompetence, systemic lethargy, and the "Trinity" of fraud, waste, and abuse.

There is no easy answer. Mass Transit around large cities and towns should be efficient, broadly available, and at reasonable cost to the riders themselves, but to provide this sterling service is prohibitively expensive, and there is no easy way to allocate that cost.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Public mass transportation:

Existing common technology and practices enable local governments to enact or greatly increase their subsidies for mass transportation at lesser administrative costs.
Riders and mass transit enterprises are the direct beneficiaries of such subsidies which increase use of mass transit. Due to extents of rider increases;

Automotive traffic to, from, and within population or commercial centers are reduced;

more people are enabled to travel more often at lesser costs and durations of elapsed times;

More jobs are created within transportation industries;

It's particularly beneficial to both the employed and unemployed poor, and to both the younger and the elderly that are less physically able to walk longer distances.

Cities' and counties' governments should give greater consideration to more substantially subsidizing their mass transportation as possibly net economic and social beneficial to them. Respectfully, Supposn

I was on the Virginia Railway Express going from Washington DC to Manassas Va one day. A guy decided to jump in front of the train, causing it to stop for over 5 hours. All the people on the train, had to wait to either get bussed to a close proximity of where they parked or ubered. Many ubered. That means they shared a private car to get where they wanted to go.

 

[Supposn]

Dekster, unlike yourself, many people commute to work, shop,and attend to their other affairs at some expense and time they consider to be excessive and/or inconvenient.
The poor are often poorer because they cannot afford to live near better paying jobs or less expensive food stores. In many places, the stores offering only the poorest quality food at no less and often higher prices, are found only in the low-rent districts with poor public transportation services.
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Dekster & DGS49, the last paragraph of this thread's initial post was, “Cities' and counties' governments should give greater consideration to more substantially subsidizing their mass transportation as possibly net economic and social beneficial to them”.
I made no mention of our federal or any state's government. I didn't imply that every county should substantially subsidize their public mass transportation systems; more substantial subsidization of public transportation may not even be net beneficial to every smaller city. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Dekster, unlike yourself, many people commute to work, shop,and attend to their other affairs at some expense and time they consider to be excessive and/or inconvenient.

The poor are often poorer because they cannot afford to live near better paying jobs or less expensive food stores. In many places, the stores offering only the poorest quality food at no less and often higher prices, are found only in the low-rent districts with poor public transportation services.
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Dekster & DGS49, the last paragraph of this thread's initial post was, “Cities' and counties' governments should give greater consideration to more substantially subsidizing their mass transportation as possibly net economic and social beneficial to them”.

I made no mention of our federal or any state's government. Respectfully, Supposn

Dekster, unlike yourself, many people commute to work, shop,and attend to their other affairs at some expense and time they consider to be excessive and/or inconvenient.

Public transportation is too expensive and time consuming?

In many places, the stores offering only the poorest quality food at no less and often higher prices, are found only in the low-rent districts with poor public transportation services.

Inventory shrinkage has a cost.

 

[Supposn]

Dekster, among the existing common technology and practices I was referring to are debit cards and cell phones. The subsidy could be provided to resident's within the government's jurisdiction, if they choose to open an account with the government. Ezpass now works in that manner for motorists.


For example NY city, could pay mass transit enterprises cash subsidy that's a percentage of the price charged to riders that do not have any transportation discount account. The city only issues their NYC cards to bonafide NYC residents, and the subscription charges vary for different subscribers' categories such as the poor, those having difficulty walking, students, city employees, and the elderly, longer distances, or students.

Similarly the governments of NY city's adjoining counties could issue their own card to their bonafide residents and pay the the mass mass transit enterprises that honors them in exactly the sane manner as does NY city, but those counties set their own subscription fees.

Similarly even the government of New Jersey, and or some NJ counties could issue their own cards and pay the fees to the mass transit enterprises.

All government's set the fees they charge their subscribing residents, but regardless of what they charge their residents, all governments pay the same fees to the subsidized mass transit enterprises; otherwise the governments and the mass transportation enterprise do not all have a mutual agreement, (i.e. no contract).

Dekster, in your particular case if you don't open a transportation account with your governments, your costs will be your portion of your taxes that are attributed to your governments' net costs for subsidizing mass transportation. Respectfully, Supposn