Q1 2019 watch - if under 3.0% - where is Trump’s economic miracle - can Trump beat O’s 2.9% ever?

Help me out, is +3.2% more than Obama's -1.0% in his 9th quarter?

The point of this thread is that Trumpo is going to be the second president in US history to not have a full year above 3.0 percent GDP.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for TrumpO

Those were a dime a dozen under Obama. When TrumpO hits 5.1 let us know. Because Obama did.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for Trump

Yes, Trump's +3.2% is much better than Obama's -1.0%

A fucking liar is what you are and you prove it in every economic thread.

Have you no shame at all?

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011 and those were the ONLY negative growth Qs since the end of recession.

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011

The whiney OP was discussing Trump's 9th quarter predicted GDP.
Said that if it was below 3%, it was proof of Trump's failure.
Obama's 9th quarter was -1.0%. Trump's ended up at +3.2%.

Which number was better?

...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,
 
Help me out, is +3.2% more than Obama's -1.0% in his 9th quarter?

The point of this thread is that Trumpo is going to be the second president in US history to not have a full year above 3.0 percent GDP.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for TrumpO

Those were a dime a dozen under Obama. When TrumpO hits 5.1 let us know. Because Obama did.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for Trump

Yes, Trump's +3.2% is much better than Obama's -1.0%

A fucking liar is what you are and you prove it in every economic thread.

Have you no shame at all?

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011 and those were the ONLY negative growth Qs since the end of recession.

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011

The whiney OP was discussing Trump's 9th quarter predicted GDP.
Said that if it was below 3%, it was proof of Trump's failure.
Obama's 9th quarter was -1.0%. Trump's ended up at +3.2%.

Which number was better?

...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES. Trump didn't start 1st Q, he started on Obama's last.

You don't want to compare their performance? That's a shocker!
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

Great Recession - Wikipedia

According to the nonprofit National Bureau of Economic Research (the official arbiter of U.S. recessions), the recession in the U.S. began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009, thus extending over 19 months.

His/her/it/xer's (The Lying Cocksucker) politicies had absolutely nothing to do with ending it.

Anybody with an IQ understands that. Which disqualifies dimocrap scum completely.

Of course, they'll lie about it, but that's what dimocrap scum do. Lie. And steal. That's about it
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailouts Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
 
Q1 2019 watch - if under 3.0% - where is Trump’s economic miracle

US first-quarter GDP rose 3.2%, vs 2.5% growth expected

US economy grows by 3.2% in the first quarter, tops expectations

Hehe.

Help me out, is +3.2% more than Obama's -1.0% in his 9th quarter?
Obama had quarters in the 4%s didn’t he? And Trump has yet to break 3% annual growth in his first two years after campaigning that he would get 4 maybe 5%... right?

Obama had quarters in the 4%s didn’t he?

Did he? Wow! His weakest recovery since WWII must have been awesome!
Did he or did he not have quarters in the 4%s?

Has trump exceeded 3% in his first two years? Answer the questions


Obama tears TrumpO up on GDP growth per quarter.

View attachment 258084


Yes that is a 4.9 and 5.1 back to back..
What's the source of that garbage?
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.
 
The point of this thread is that Trumpo is going to be the second president in US history to not have a full year above 3.0 percent GDP.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for TrumpO

Those were a dime a dozen under Obama. When TrumpO hits 5.1 let us know. Because Obama did.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for Trump

Yes, Trump's +3.2% is much better than Obama's -1.0%

A fucking liar is what you are and you prove it in every economic thread.

Have you no shame at all?

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011 and those were the ONLY negative growth Qs since the end of recession.

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011

The whiney OP was discussing Trump's 9th quarter predicted GDP.
Said that if it was below 3%, it was proof of Trump's failure.
Obama's 9th quarter was -1.0%. Trump's ended up at +3.2%.

Which number was better?

...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES. Trump didn't start 1st Q, he started on Obama's last.

You don't want to compare their performance? That's a shocker!
Sure, one led us out of a recession and into the longest streak of job growth in U.S. history while the other is riding that wave.
 
The point of this thread is that Trumpo is going to be the second president in US history to not have a full year above 3.0 percent GDP.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for TrumpO

Those were a dime a dozen under Obama. When TrumpO hits 5.1 let us know. Because Obama did.

You are all aglow with a 3,2 quarter for Trump

Yes, Trump's +3.2% is much better than Obama's -1.0%

A fucking liar is what you are and you prove it in every economic thread.

Have you no shame at all?

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011 and those were the ONLY negative growth Qs since the end of recession.

-1% Q1 growth is a cherrypicked number from 2014 and 2011

The whiney OP was discussing Trump's 9th quarter predicted GDP.
Said that if it was below 3%, it was proof of Trump's failure.
Obama's 9th quarter was -1.0%. Trump's ended up at +3.2%.

Which number was better?

...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES. Trump didn't start 1st Q, he started on Obama's last.

You don't want to compare their performance? That's a shocker!

Like any honest, inteligent person I want to compare THEIR POLICY, not simply underlying economy that belive it or not exists with or without some one guy in the WH.
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.

Expansionary policy is expansionary. Should be a fairly obvious point, but needs reapeating for some heavily invested politicos loosing touch with reality.
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.
It's always amusing when the USMB's fucking moron chimes in.

latest_numbers_CES0000000001_2008_2019_all_period_M03_data.gif
 
Q1 2019 watch - if under 3.0% - where is Trump’s economic miracle

US first-quarter GDP rose 3.2%, vs 2.5% growth expected

US economy grows by 3.2% in the first quarter, tops expectations

Hehe.

Help me out, is +3.2% more than Obama's -1.0% in his 9th quarter?
Obama had quarters in the 4%s didn’t he? And Trump has yet to break 3% annual growth in his first two years after campaigning that he would get 4 maybe 5%... right?

Obama had quarters in the 4%s didn’t he?

Did he? Wow! His weakest recovery since WWII must have been awesome!
Did he or did he not have quarters in the 4%s?

Has trump exceeded 3% in his first two years? Answer the questions


Obama tears TrumpO up on GDP growth per quarter.

View attachment 258084


Yes that is a 4.9 and 5.1 back to back..
What's the source of that garbage?
Those are real numbers dude. Look it up
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.

Expansionary policy is expansionary. Should be a fairly obvious point, but needs reapeating for some heavily invested politicos loosing touch with reality.
Just because politicians call something "expansionary," that doesn't mean it is. We had a couple dozen recessions before 1929, and somehow the country recovered without any so-called "expansionary policy."
 
Obama had quarters in the 4%s didn’t he? And Trump has yet to break 3% annual growth in his first two years after campaigning that he would get 4 maybe 5%... right?

Obama had quarters in the 4%s didn’t he?

Did he? Wow! His weakest recovery since WWII must have been awesome!
Did he or did he not have quarters in the 4%s?

Has trump exceeded 3% in his first two years? Answer the questions


Obama tears TrumpO up on GDP growth per quarter.

View attachment 258084


Yes that is a 4.9 and 5.1 back to back..
What's the source of that garbage?
Those are real numbers dude. Look it up
I have. Those numbers don't resemble the ones I've seen.
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.
It's always amusing when the USMB's fucking moron chimes in.

latest_numbers_CES0000000001_2008_2019_all_period_M03_data.gif
A moron is someone who believes that graph supports your claim.
 
...there is ZERO connection between "Obama's 9th quarter" and Trump's 9th quarter - THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ECONOMIES.

Trump didn't start on 1st Q in the middle of Great Recession, he started on Obama's last Q - a heathy, growing economy,

Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.

Expansionary policy is expansionary. Should be a fairly obvious point, but needs reapeating for some heavily invested politicos loosing touch with reality.
Just because politicians call something "expansionary," that doesn't mean it is. We had a couple dozen recessions before 1929, and somehow the country recovered without any so-called "expansionary policy."

Nothing to do with politicians, its basic macroeconomics.

When you burrow money to buy economic activity that is an expansionary policy (untill the bills are due anyway). Thats is what Stimulus spending, grants and tax-cuts did. That is also what Trump tax cuts did.

When you lower interest rates that is an expansionary policy (unless inflation gets out of control)

When you reasure failing markets with Bailouts and oversight, that is an expansionary policy (unless it incourages risk taking long term)
 
Trump is seen as a business friendly POTUS. While borrowing rates have skyrocketed, companies are still borrowing, merging, acquiring. You may dislike the man but you have to acknowledge this is a fact. He had been very good for the economy.
 
Actually, the Great Recession started in Dec of 2007 and ended less than 5 Months into the Lying Cocksucker's disease-ridden term in office.

And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.

Expansionary policy is expansionary. Should be a fairly obvious point, but needs reapeating for some heavily invested politicos loosing touch with reality.
Just because politicians call something "expansionary," that doesn't mean it is. We had a couple dozen recessions before 1929, and somehow the country recovered without any so-called "expansionary policy."

Nothing to do with politicians, its basic macroeconomics.

When you burrow money to buy economic activity that is an expansionary policy (untill the bills are due anyway). Thats is what Stimulus spending, grants and tax-cuts did. That is also what Trump tax cuts did.

When you lower interest rates that is an expansionary policy (unless inflation gets out of control)

When you reasure failing markets with Bailouts and oversight, that is an expansionary policy (unless it incourages risk taking long term)
That's what the leftwing demagogues claim. BTW, so-called "macroeconomics" is abracadabra.
 
And you think saying that contradicts....what?

Obama started out with a Great Recession on his hands and it would have been a whole lot deeper if he wasn't on board with the bailout's Bush adminsitration started, QE on monetary side and Stimulus on fiscal side.
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.

Expansionary policy is expansionary. Should be a fairly obvious point, but needs reapeating for some heavily invested politicos loosing touch with reality.
Just because politicians call something "expansionary," that doesn't mean it is. We had a couple dozen recessions before 1929, and somehow the country recovered without any so-called "expansionary policy."

Nothing to do with politicians, its basic macroeconomics.

When you burrow money to buy economic activity that is an expansionary policy (untill the bills are due anyway). Thats is what Stimulus spending, grants and tax-cuts did. That is also what Trump tax cuts did.

When you lower interest rates that is an expansionary policy (unless inflation gets out of control)

When you reasure failing markets with Bailouts and oversight, that is an expansionary policy (unless it incourages risk taking long term)
That's what the leftwing demagogues claim. BTW, so-called "macroeconomics" is abracadabra.


No no, you are severely confused, this is what any serious economist, left or right will tell you.

This is not more controversial in macro economics than 1+1 = 2 is controversial in mathematics.
 
No one could have recovered much faster, if at all faster, given the structural damage to the economy. Obama did what needed to be done, which was to dump a shit load of money into the economy to keep it from slipping into a depression; to give time to the private sector to get back on its feet. At the same time, the Federal Reserve did what they had to do by dropping the federal fund rate to its lowest possible rate. All that helped turn the economy around, which began climbing out of the crater in 2010.

No, our economy began its recovery in 2nd quarter of 2009. In previous recessions, we recovered much quicker than the 2007/2008 recession. President Obama's recovery brought back a word used to describe the economy of President Carter, malaise.
Bush's Great Recession was far worse than any other since the Great Depression.
Oh please you guys are so full of shit, Bush inherited a bad recession after silicon valley imploded in the late 90s......calm down bro
You mean the recession that started after Bush became president? The one that likely wouldn't have even been a recession if not for 9.11?
Technically the recession didn't start until Bush, but I meant when Silcon Valley started to implode BEFORE Bush became President

Dot-com bubble - Wikipedia

The burst of the bubble, known as the dot-com crash, lasted from March 11, 2000, to October 9, 2002.[
March 11, 2000, who was the President of the United States?
 
Horseshit. Obama's schemes made it worse, not better.

Expansionary policy is expansionary. Should be a fairly obvious point, but needs reapeating for some heavily invested politicos loosing touch with reality.
Just because politicians call something "expansionary," that doesn't mean it is. We had a couple dozen recessions before 1929, and somehow the country recovered without any so-called "expansionary policy."

Nothing to do with politicians, its basic macroeconomics.

When you burrow money to buy economic activity that is an expansionary policy (untill the bills are due anyway). Thats is what Stimulus spending, grants and tax-cuts did. That is also what Trump tax cuts did.

When you lower interest rates that is an expansionary policy (unless inflation gets out of control)

When you reasure failing markets with Bailouts and oversight, that is an expansionary policy (unless it incourages risk taking long term)
That's what the leftwing demagogues claim. BTW, so-called "macroeconomics" is abracadabra.


No no, you are severely confused, this is what any serious economist, left or right will tell you.

This is not more controversial in macro economics than 1+1 = 2 is controversial in mathematics.
It's utterly controversial. However, there's nothing surprising about a bunch of witch doctors on the government payroll all agreeing that government can expand the economy. Refer to my signature for the reason.
 

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