Rachel Maddow Rocked Meet the Press

[Political Junky]

George Will comes to mind off the top of my head.

Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell...

I'd love to see Madcow go toe to toe with Ann Coulter.

Me too.

 

[del]

Give them a break, their are so few progressives that can actually talk without getting confused they always worship the ones who manage it.

So, you're saying that leftism is a symptom of mental retardation?

so, you're a leftist?

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

I was going to say Coulter and Madcow would have a cat fight, but I'm not sure what to call it...

I'd call it Special Olympics Boxing

Edit: I'd like to apologize to any participants and to the families of any participants of the Special Olympics. I spoke without thinking, and I realize that it was insensitive to compare people with real, medical problems to partisan hacks like Maddow and Coulter who, without any disease or chromosomal deficiency, have -chosen- to be retarded.

 

[asterism]

I've heard Racherl on the radio.

She's very articulate.

The GOP created this "war on woman: bludegeon that they're getting beaten with in the media.

They created it one stupid assed talking head, one crappy piece of legislation at a time.

The WAR on WOMEN is also a war on the average american family.

Perhaps some of you haven't noticed it yet, but women play a fairly signficant role in supporting American families.

So anything that screws them in the workplace, screws their families, too.

What I do find interesting is that when the GOP is conducting war on American workers in industries that have significant men in the ranks, nobody calls THAT a war on men.

But if you look at the stats, for the last 20 years, thanks to the GOP's war on the workers, men's salaries have been declining.

It isn't that the little movement woman have made has been so good, when comparing their salaries to men, its that men's salaries have been going down.

The war on women is a SUBSET of the GOP's war on human beings who have to work for a living

It's amazing that you think an entire political party doesn't work for a living while you support the party that advocates for more and more free rides on the government dole.

 

[del]

I've heard Racherl on the radio.

She's very articulate.

The GOP created this "war on woman: bludegeon that they're getting beaten with in the media.

They created it one stupid assed talking head, one crappy piece of legislation at a time.

The WAR on WOMEN is also a war on the average american family.

Perhaps some of you haven't noticed it yet, but women play a fairly signficant role in supporting American families.

So anything that screws them in the workplace, screws their families, too.

What I do find interesting is that when the GOP is conducting war on American workers in industries that have significant men in the ranks, nobody calls THAT a war on men.

But if you look at the stats, for the last 20 years, thanks to the GOP's war on the workers, men's salaries have been declining.

It isn't that the little movement woman have made has been so good, when comparing their salaries to men, its that men's salaries have been going down.

The war on women is a SUBSET of the GOP's war on human beings who have to work for a living

It's amazing that you think an entire political party doesn't work for a living while you support the party that advocates for more and more free rides on the government dole.

it's amazing that you read what he wrote and came up with that statement

 

[asterism]

And you're not afraid to use your gender as a crutch ether it appears.

Bravo.

that's really funny.

don't you have another white male angst thread to do?

So you want to use your gender as a crutch now?

Funny how women want equal pay but they want to be treated differently at the same time.

I remember years ago hearing some woman in the Army in my training unit bitching at me about how women are being mistreated in the military. She said she wanted everything to be the same between the sexes. I asked her what she thought about the hair-cut regulations. She said that's silly. I said no it's not. I said if you want total equality men should be allowed to grow their hair as long as women. I also pointed out the accepted differences in physical requirements. I said women should have to do the same number of pushups and situps. Women should have to do the same number of chinups to pass Air borne school because we're doing the same job for the same pay. I told her that she was using her gender as a crutch and the Army was actually showing favoritism to her if she took the time to think about it.

I remember a WM bitching to our Staff Sgt about the inequality of men being able to take their shirts off at washdown in Rota while the women couldn't. His answer was good, he said that while he wouldn't recommend her taking her shirt off, she shouldn't require that the men put their shirts on for the same reason that the problem of pay inequity doesn't get solved by reducing the pay of men, it's by paying women the same (which has been the case in the military for DECADES).

 

[Toro]

I was going to say Coulter and Madcow would have a cat fight, but I'm not sure what to call it...

I'd call it Special Olympics Boxing

Edit: I'd like to apologize to any participants and to the families of any participants of the Special Olympics. I spoke without thinking, and I realize that it was insensitive to compare people with real, medical problems to partisan hacks like Maddow and Coulter who, without any disease or chromosomal deficiency, have -chosen- to be retarded.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I just wanted to note that this isn't my sock. We are different people.

Carry on.

 

[asterism]

I've heard Racherl on the radio.

She's very articulate.

The GOP created this "war on woman: bludegeon that they're getting beaten with in the media.

They created it one stupid assed talking head, one crappy piece of legislation at a time.

The WAR on WOMEN is also a war on the average american family.

Perhaps some of you haven't noticed it yet, but women play a fairly signficant role in supporting American families.

So anything that screws them in the workplace, screws their families, too.

What I do find interesting is that when the GOP is conducting war on American workers in industries that have significant men in the ranks, nobody calls THAT a war on men.

But if you look at the stats, for the last 20 years, thanks to the GOP's war on the workers, men's salaries have been declining.

It isn't that the little movement woman have made has been so good, when comparing their salaries to men, its that men's salaries have been going down.

The war on women is a SUBSET of the GOP's war on human beings who have to work for a living

It's amazing that you think an entire political party doesn't work for a living while you support the party that advocates for more and more free rides on the government dole.

it's amazing that you read what he wrote and came up with that statement

"The war on women is a SUBSET of the GOP's war on human beings who have to work for a living"

 

[GWV5903]

Man, y'all are just making my point - I don't even need to post.

Never mind the fact that it was HER turn to speak, and he talked over, around and through her. That wasn't rude.

She should have known her place, right?

Because anything can be subjective, I took a second look at the tape, same result...

Maddow and Castellanos have a difference in opinion and somehow Easley's blog castigates him based on his behavior?

In no way was he demeaning towards Maddow, quit the opposite in fact...

What is painfully obvious is her desire to be in charge and that her belief she has to win the debate...

The only point made is when your on a political talking head show, you have differing opinions, it's pretty simple, if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen...

Rachel takes a defensive, I'm going to control the conversation approach and Alex is extremely polite and she claims he's being condescending?

Easley is the one claiming his behavior is wrong, when in fact it's nothing of the sort...

Castellanos is correct, this is nothing more than a manufactured diversion, because they can not talk about the economy...

If you watched the whole show, which I have a difficult time doing anymore because of their bias, you would have seen Gibbs telling us how wonderful the GM bailout is...

 

[Synthaholic]

Man, y'all are just making my point - I don't even need to post.

Never mind the fact that it was HER turn to speak, and he talked over, around and through her. That wasn't rude.

She should have known her place, right?

Because anything can be subjective, I took a second look at the tape, same result...

Maddow and Castellanos have a difference in opinion and somehow Easley's blog castigates him based on his behavior?

In no way was he demeaning towards Maddow, quit the opposite in fact...

What is painfully obvious is her desire to be in charge and that her belief she has to win the debate...

The only point made is when your on a political talking head show, you have differing opinions, it's pretty simple, if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen...

Rachel takes a defensive, I'm going to control the conversation approach and Alex is extremely polite and she claims he's being condescending?

David Gregory: "How, Rachel, should this debate be framed?"

The host asked her to speak, not him. The host didn't just throw the question out for anyone to answer.

Castellanos is correct, this is nothing more than a manufactured diversion, because they can not talk about the economy...

No, he is incorrect:

Shining Shoes Best Way Wall Street Women Outearn Men







Women who want to earn more on Wall Street than their male colleagues have one reliable option. They can set up a shoe-shine stand in Lower Manhattan.


Female personal care and service workers, which include butlers, valets, house sitters and shoe shiners, earned $1.02 for every $1 their male counterparts made in 2010, according to census data compiled by Bloomberg. That job category, which covers 38,210 full-time workers in the U.S., was the only one of 265 major occupations where the median female salary exceeded the amount paid to men.



The six jobs with the largest gender gap in pay and at least 10,000 men and 10,000 women were in the Wall Street-heavy financial sector: insurance agents, managers, clerks, securities sales agents, personal advisers and other specialists. Advanced- degree professions proved no better predictors of equality. Female doctors made 63 cents for every $1 earned by male physicians and surgeons, the data show. Female chief executives earned 74 cents for every $1 made by male counterparts.


The Census Bureau figures underscore the lack of financial progress made in the generation since women began leaving the home and moving into the workforce in large numbers. While the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression initially hit women less severely, their median earnings still trailed men in 505 of 525 occupations tracked by the federal government.


“We don’t see the pay gap closing,” Ilene H. Lang, president and chief executive officer of Catalyst, a New York- based nonprofit group that seeks to advance women in business, said in a telephone interview. “It’s persistent.”

​

Are you going to now try to discredit Bloomberg News when it comes to a financial/business story?

ETA: This deserves it's own thread, here:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/221099-bloomberg-news-confirms-gender-pay-gap.html

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Man, y'all are just making my point - I don't even need to post.

Never mind the fact that it was HER turn to speak, and he talked over, around and through her. That wasn't rude.

She should have known her place, right?

Because anything can be subjective, I took a second look at the tape, same result...

Maddow and Castellanos have a difference in opinion and somehow Easley's blog castigates him based on his behavior?

In no way was he demeaning towards Maddow, quit the opposite in fact...

What is painfully obvious is her desire to be in charge and that her belief she has to win the debate...

The only point made is when your on a political talking head show, you have differing opinions, it's pretty simple, if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen...

Rachel takes a defensive, I'm going to control the conversation approach and Alex is extremely polite and she claims he's being condescending?

David Gregory: "How, Rachel, should this debate be framed?"

The host asked her to speak, not him. The host didn't just throw the question out for anyone to answer.

Castellanos is correct, this is nothing more than a manufactured diversion, because they can not talk about the economy...

No, he is incorrect:

Shining Shoes Best Way Wall Street Women Outearn Men







Women who want to earn more on Wall Street than their male colleagues have one reliable option. They can set up a shoe-shine stand in Lower Manhattan.


Female personal care and service workers, which include butlers, valets, house sitters and shoe shiners, earned $1.02 for every $1 their male counterparts made in 2010, according to census data compiled by Bloomberg. That job category, which covers 38,210 full-time workers in the U.S., was the only one of 265 major occupations where the median female salary exceeded the amount paid to men.



The six jobs with the largest gender gap in pay and at least 10,000 men and 10,000 women were in the Wall Street-heavy financial sector: insurance agents, managers, clerks, securities sales agents, personal advisers and other specialists. Advanced- degree professions proved no better predictors of equality. Female doctors made 63 cents for every $1 earned by male physicians and surgeons, the data show. Female chief executives earned 74 cents for every $1 made by male counterparts.


The Census Bureau figures underscore the lack of financial progress made in the generation since women began leaving the home and moving into the workforce in large numbers. While the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression initially hit women less severely, their median earnings still trailed men in 505 of 525 occupations tracked by the federal government.


“We don’t see the pay gap closing,” Ilene H. Lang, president and chief executive officer of Catalyst, a New York- based nonprofit group that seeks to advance women in business, said in a telephone interview. “It’s persistent.”

​

Are you going to now try to discredit Bloomberg News when it comes to a financial/business story?

ETA: This deserves it's own thread, here:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/221099-bloomberg-news-confirms-gender-pay-gap.html

Did you find the part of the Supreme Court decision where they said that she couldn't bring the case even though she didn't know about the discrimination before? It should be pretty easy to find if, as you claim, all Maddow's statements are well researched and whe never says anything that is untrue. I would think she would link to it on her website since it is such an obvious part of the Republican war on women. Can I help by linking to her site for you?

Rachel Maddow | Official Personal Website

Rachel Maddow is a hack, prove me wrong.

 

[Barb]

nuff said

 

[BDBoop]

nuff said

Exactly. I swear to God their motto is "How can I love you if you won't bend over."

 

[Barb]

nuff said

Exactly. I swear to God their motto is "How can I love you if you won't bend over."

lol, THAT should be on a bumper sticker!

 

[Ringel05]

I still find it fascinating that all those pundits that conform to, espouse or verify our individual paradigms are always "brilliant", are possessed with unimpeachable logic, can leap tall buildings with a single bound and catch speeding bullets with their teeth. Also that all those who don't share our paradigms are dull, backwards, obstructive, obtrusive, destructive, etc, etc.
God I love human nature! It's so friggin' predictable.

 

[Barb]

and women in the er or icu (and probably their graves) are accusers unless and until there is a conviction.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I still find it fascinating that all those pundits that conform to, espouse or verify our individual paradigms are always "brilliant", are possessed with unimpeachable logic, can leap tall buildings with a single bound and catch speeding bullets with their teeth. Also that all those who don't share our paradigms are dull, backwards, obstructive, obtrusive, destructive, etc, etc.
God I love human nature! It's so friggin' predictable.

I can post a video of a politician supporting a statement he admits he didn't hear just because of who said it.

 

[Ringel05]

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[Barb]

Right. That's no different than Maddow repeatedly talking about the Republican War on Women.

Are you willing to bet your avatar that I can find Hannity correcting himself?

if republicans have a problem with it being said they're waging a war on women, they should stop.

the first bill passed by the tea party House when it was called to order after the 2010 election was a bill to absolve hospitals of liability for allowing women to die for refusing to do a necessary life-saving abortion or even diecting them to a hospital that would, in fact accommodate them.

since then, republicans who got into office by pretending to be fiscal conservatives, engaged in a radical and religious right agenda designed to divest women of dominion over their own bodies...and of the parity in the workplace they fought for over the last 40 years... arguments we believed were largely settled. we're relitigating issues of women's rights that we believed were settled in the 70's. some of us are waiting for them to re-introduce the 'three-stitch' rule applying to domestic violence issue.

heck...i think we should be screaming out of every doorpost and window... you haven't even begun to hear shrill

you haven't even begun to hear shrill

The mewling that will take place once they do, it almost makes you feel a little sorry for them.

almost...

 

[mudwhistle]

Right. That's no different than Maddow repeatedly talking about the Republican War on Women.

Are you willing to bet your avatar that I can find Hannity correcting himself?

if republicans have a problem with it being said they're waging a war on women, they should stop.

the first bill passed by the tea party House when it was called to order after the 2010 election was a bill to absolve hospitals of liability for allowing women to die for refusing to do a necessary life-saving abortion or even diecting them to a hospital that would, in fact accommodate them.

since then, republicans who got into office by pretending to be fiscal conservatives, engaged in a radical and religious right agenda designed to divest women of dominion over their own bodies...and of the parity in the workplace they fought for over the last 40 years... arguments we believed were largely settled. we're relitigating issues of women's rights that we believed were settled in the 70's. some of us are waiting for them to re-introduce the 'three-stitch' rule applying to domestic violence issue.

heck...i think we should be screaming out of every doorpost and window... you haven't even begun to hear shrill

you haven't even begun to hear shrill

The mewling that will take place once they do, it almost makes you feel a little sorry for them.

almost...

Funny how we're arguing over a lesbian yet now you're bitching about somebody taking away abortion and birth control.

Seems a bit ironic.