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The motivation in upping this accident to "murder." It doesnt fit the definition of murder.What the hell does race have anything to do with this issue anyway?
I've shown you several times how this was a MOB VERDICT designed to appease the black mob.
It most certainly does fit the defintion of murder.
When you accept the privilege of carrying a gun in public, you agree to the higher standards where negligence is prosecuted as murder. And rightfully so. Carrying a gun in public is huge responsibility.
She knew what she had agreed to. If she was not up to it, then she should not have agreed to take the job and the gun.
White female cop off duty gets stupid, becomes human and does something dumb. Of course, that was manslaughter. But if you are white and a cop, no excuse. Jesus Christ, no wonder people are leaving the police force. They expect you to be god and be able to second guess everything...
She had been a police officer for years with a clean record and no disciplinary problems.Last September, one of Amber Guyger’s friends told her that she should adopt a German Shepherd—although tEvhe dog “may be racist,” the friend texted. “It’s okay.. I’m the same,” GuygeNor replied.
Everyone is racist...certainly most intelligent people are racist. Our founding fathers were racist...Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacits.
We have no idea what she said as she entered the apartment or if she said anything.So, they got confused and went to the wrong apartment. Did those hundred others open fire on an innocent person?
Sure, let's blame the apartment complex for the incident because all the apartments look alike and there weren't adequate signs to warn all the dumbasses who can't pay attention. So fucking ridiculous.
And boo hoo, she worked a 13-hour shift and was tired. Wah wah. That makes me feel soooo sorry for the poor little woman. That was justified for her to enter someone else's apartment and commit murder, huh?
The black guy didn't need to obey her command. He was in his own apartment doing nothing wrong. She lost her job and will be behind bars for her stupid mistake. Serves her right.
How many are willing to die to abstain from following the legal order of a policemen? You are being ridiculous.....I doubt any of the others who went to the wrong apartment found one with a open door and the lights out nor were they police officers.
Get real.
She was allowed to frame the encounter to best justify the shooting.
The dead man was not
Police departments weed out liars....she had been a cop for years with no credibility problems....everything she says makes sense....no reason to doubt her.
That is not true.
Amber had been investigated for a previous shooting.
Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean | Heavy.com
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Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean
Amber Guyger, who was on the Dallas police force for four years and was involved in a previous shooting, ...
Stories posted online and a database of police shootings identified Amber Guyger as having been involved in a previous officer-involved shooting. In that one, the man lived and she was on duty, news reports show.
The Dallas Police Department’s website wrote in 2017, “The suspect in this offense has been identified as Uvaldo Perez L/M/46. He is being charged with Taking A Weapon from an Officer, Possession of Meth, Possession of Marijuana, and Parole Violation. Mr. Perez remains hospitalized at this time. The officer involved in this incident is Officer Amber Guyger, #10702. She is assigned to the Southeast Crime Response Team (CRT) and has been on the department for three years and six months.”
The police website included this description of the Perez shooting:
On May 12, 2017, at about 8:58 am, Dallas officers from the Crime Response Team responded to the 8300 block of Reva Street after receiving information from undercover officers that a wanted female was at the location. When the uniformed officers arrived, they observed the female they believed to be wanted sitting in the front passenger seat of a vehicle with a male sitting in the front driver seat and another male sitting in the back seat. While officers were attempting to identify the female passenger, the male passenger sitting in the rear seat exited the vehicle after being told repeatedly by officers to remain seated. The male suspect then engaged in a physical confrontation with the officers. The suspect was able to gain control of one of the officer’s taser causing an officer to draw their firearm and shoot the suspect. The suspect was transported to an area hospital where he is listed in stable condition. There were no officers injured. This incident will be documented on case number 106261-2017
Mundo Hispanico, a Spanish-language publication, also wrote a story on the Perez shooting. The translation indicates that police were searching for a woman and made a traffic stop. During it, Perez is accused of trying to take the officer’s taser, and it was at that point that he was shot. He was shot in the abdomen but was listed as being in stable condition.
Perez entered a plea deal and admitted the charges against him, receiving a two-year prison sentence. ...}
And it is very clear she is lying.
The door in the apartment are self locking.
They are a spring closed firedoor that can not be ajar as she claimed.
It was a good shoot...what is your point.....the perp took a officers weapon...what do you think? that they should have stood around and waited for him to use it?
Anyhow any time there is a shooting there is an investigation....thus just because there was an investigtion means nothing....she was cleared of any wrong doing.
If the door was locked how did she get in? You are one of the dumber ones on here....and that is saying a lot.
I see the drive by shootings black thugs do that kill little kids instead, and they rarely get caught. And that happens way more often than say, the Amber Gygers of the world. And were is the outrage at THAT? Snitches get stitches, how about we address that instead?White female cop off duty gets stupid, becomes human and does something dumb. Of course, that was manslaughter. But if you are white and a cop, no excuse. Jesus Christ, no wonder people are leaving the police force. They expect you to be god and be able to second guess everything...
I do not thing she did anything wrong other than to be a innocent trespasser.
You are definitely right that most folks want to believe cops should be super human.
Everyone makes mistakes....it is just human nature...
She had been a police officer for years with a clean record and no disciplinary problems.Last September, one of Amber Guyger’s friends told her that she should adopt a German Shepherd—although tEvhe dog “may be racist,” the friend texted. “It’s okay.. I’m the same,” GuygeNor replied.
Everyone is racist...certainly most intelligent people are racist. Our founding fathers were racist...Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacits.
You are probably right that everyone is a racist even if they do not admit it, but people in responsible jobs are expected to know better. No one is supposed to shoot someone else unless they see a weapon about to be wrongly used.
An off duty cop is under the same duty to retreat as anyone.
I see the drive by shootings black thugs do that kill little kids instead, and they rarely get caught. And that happens way more often than say, the Amber Gygers of the world. And were is the outrage at THAT? Snitches get stitches, how about we address that instead?White female cop off duty gets stupid, becomes human and does something dumb. Of course, that was manslaughter. But if you are white and a cop, no excuse. Jesus Christ, no wonder people are leaving the police force. They expect you to be god and be able to second guess everything...
I do not thing she did anything wrong other than to be a innocent trespasser.
You are definitely right that most folks want to believe cops should be super human.
Everyone makes mistakes....it is just human nature...
The motivation in upping this accident to "murder." It doesnt fit the definition of murder.What the hell does race have anything to do with this issue anyway?
I've shown you several times how this was a MOB VERDICT designed to appease the black mob.
It most certainly does fit the defintion of murder.
When you accept the privilege of carrying a gun in public, you agree to the higher standards where negligence is prosecuted as murder. And rightfully so. Carrying a gun in public is huge responsibility.
She knew what she had agreed to. If she was not up to it, then she should not have agreed to take the job and the gun.
Carrying a gun does not make one legally subject to higher standards of any sort...all you need to do is get a license.
Carrying a gun or even owning a gun carries responsibility as does many other things such as driving a car etc.
you have no valid point.
She was a veteran cop of 4 yrs. obviously, she was up to it.
We have no idea what she said as she entered the apartment or if she said anything.How many are willing to die to abstain from following the legal order of a policemen? You are being ridiculous.....I doubt any of the others who went to the wrong apartment found one with a open door and the lights out nor were they police officers.
Get real.
She was allowed to frame the encounter to best justify the shooting.
The dead man was not
Police departments weed out liars....she had been a cop for years with no credibility problems....everything she says makes sense....no reason to doubt her.
That is not true.
Amber had been investigated for a previous shooting.
Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean | Heavy.com
{...
Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean
Amber Guyger, who was on the Dallas police force for four years and was involved in a previous shooting, ...
Stories posted online and a database of police shootings identified Amber Guyger as having been involved in a previous officer-involved shooting. In that one, the man lived and she was on duty, news reports show.
The Dallas Police Department’s website wrote in 2017, “The suspect in this offense has been identified as Uvaldo Perez L/M/46. He is being charged with Taking A Weapon from an Officer, Possession of Meth, Possession of Marijuana, and Parole Violation. Mr. Perez remains hospitalized at this time. The officer involved in this incident is Officer Amber Guyger, #10702. She is assigned to the Southeast Crime Response Team (CRT) and has been on the department for three years and six months.”
The police website included this description of the Perez shooting:
On May 12, 2017, at about 8:58 am, Dallas officers from the Crime Response Team responded to the 8300 block of Reva Street after receiving information from undercover officers that a wanted female was at the location. When the uniformed officers arrived, they observed the female they believed to be wanted sitting in the front passenger seat of a vehicle with a male sitting in the front driver seat and another male sitting in the back seat. While officers were attempting to identify the female passenger, the male passenger sitting in the rear seat exited the vehicle after being told repeatedly by officers to remain seated. The male suspect then engaged in a physical confrontation with the officers. The suspect was able to gain control of one of the officer’s taser causing an officer to draw their firearm and shoot the suspect. The suspect was transported to an area hospital where he is listed in stable condition. There were no officers injured. This incident will be documented on case number 106261-2017
Mundo Hispanico, a Spanish-language publication, also wrote a story on the Perez shooting. The translation indicates that police were searching for a woman and made a traffic stop. During it, Perez is accused of trying to take the officer’s taser, and it was at that point that he was shot. He was shot in the abdomen but was listed as being in stable condition.
Perez entered a plea deal and admitted the charges against him, receiving a two-year prison sentence. ...}
And it is very clear she is lying.
The door in the apartment are self locking.
They are a spring closed firedoor that can not be ajar as she claimed.
It was a good shoot...what is your point.....the perp took a officers weapon...what do you think? that they should have stood around and waited for him to use it?
Anyhow any time there is a shooting there is an investigation....thus just because there was an investigtion means nothing....she was cleared of any wrong doing.
If the door was locked how did she get in? You are one of the dumber ones on here....and that is saying a lot.
No, the suspect was accused of only TRYING to grab a taser, not a gun, and not successfully.
Normally police should only be able to shoot if someone is attempting deadly force, not a taser.
Exactly, how did she get in?
I suspect she had a key, and her affair was not with a fellow officer.
White female cop off duty gets stupid, becomes human and does something dumb. Of course, that was manslaughter. But if you are white and a cop, no excuse. Jesus Christ, no wonder people are leaving the police force. They expect you to be god and be able to second guess everything...
I do not think she did anything wrong other than to be a innocent trespasser.
You are definitely right that most folks want to believe cops should be super human.
Everyone makes mistakes....it is just human nature...
The motivation in upping this accident to "murder." It doesnt fit the definition of murder.What the hell does race have anything to do with this issue anyway?
I've shown you several times how this was a MOB VERDICT designed to appease the black mob.
It most certainly does fit the defintion of murder.
When you accept the privilege of carrying a gun in public, you agree to the higher standards where negligence is prosecuted as murder. And rightfully so. Carrying a gun in public is huge responsibility.
She knew what she had agreed to. If she was not up to it, then she should not have agreed to take the job and the gun.
Carrying a gun does not make one legally subject to higher standards of any sort...all you need to do is get a license.
Carrying a gun or even owning a gun carries responsibility as does many other things such as driving a car etc.
you have no valid point.
She was a veteran cop of 4 yrs. obviously, she was up to it.
I have a concealed carry license, and you ARE held to a higher standard when you have a gun on you all the time.
That is why they require classes.
Since you will have easy access to the weapon at all times, then it is like the professional boxer who is charged with murder if he kills someone with a punch that an ordinary person would not be charged with murder for.
And when you accept the license to carry a gun, you sign a contract that you will not use it just because you are afraid.
She obviously was not up to it or else she would not have shot.
Any ordinary person would not at all have shot in that situation.
She had been a police officer for years with a clean record and no disciplinary problems.Last September, one of Amber Guyger’s friends told her that she should adopt a German Shepherd—although tEvhe dog “may be racist,” the friend texted. “It’s okay.. I’m the same,” GuygeNor replied.
Everyone is racist...certainly most intelligent people are racist. Our founding fathers were racist...Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacits.
You are probably right that everyone is a racist even if they do not admit it, but people in responsible jobs are expected to know better. No one is supposed to shoot someone else unless they see a weapon about to be wrongly used.
An off duty cop is under the same duty to retreat as anyone.
Again....you are another one that does not understand the law.
I do understand why you think that...simply because the media for a long while now has preached hard that blacks that are unarmed should not be shot...ridiculous.
There are probably more folks killed by unarmed perps than armed perps.....every heard of strangulation or being beaten to death ...quite common.
Thus just because someone is unarmed does not mean they are not a threat...especially if they are bigger and stronger than the defendant....thus the law on self defense does not say the perp must be armed before you can use lethal force to defend your life.
The only requisite to use lethal force in self defense is that you must be in reasonable fear of your life or of great bodily harm.
Try and get your head around that...apparently a lot of folks on here cannot. We saw that in the Zimmerman case as well.
She obviously was not up to it or else she would not have shot.
Any ordinary person would not at all have shot in that situation.
White female cop off duty gets stupid, becomes human and does something dumb. Of course, that was manslaughter. But if you are white and a cop, no excuse. Jesus Christ, no wonder people are leaving the police force. They expect you to be god and be able to second guess everything...
I do not think she did anything wrong other than to be a innocent trespasser.
You are definitely right that most folks want to believe cops should be super human.
Everyone makes mistakes....it is just human nature...
Trespassing is never innocent.
And she obviously was absurdly reckless and irresponsible.
What she did wrong was to shoot without any provocation at all.
It has nothing at all to do with her being a cop.
Anyone who carries a firearm has to reach a higher standard.
That is why it takes classes, extensive background checks, and more stringent laws.
Shooting someone who had no weapon is not a mistake, but an extremely serious crime.
And no, it is not human nature to make mistakes.
Mistakes do happen, but when they harm others, you have to pay for those mistakes,
There are no do overs when you kill someone.
White female cop off duty gets stupid, becomes human and does something dumb. Of course, that was manslaughter. But if you are white and a cop, no excuse. Jesus Christ, no wonder people are leaving the police force. They expect you to be god and be able to second guess everything...
I do not think she did anything wrong other than to be a innocent trespasser.
You are definitely right that most folks want to believe cops should be super human.
Everyone makes mistakes....it is just human nature...
Trespassing is never innocent.
And she obviously was absurdly reckless and irresponsible.
What she did wrong was to shoot without any provocation at all.
It has nothing at all to do with her being a cop.
Anyone who carries a firearm has to reach a higher standard.
That is why it takes classes, extensive background checks, and more stringent laws.
Shooting someone who had no weapon is not a mistake, but an extremely serious crime.
And no, it is not human nature to make mistakes.
Mistakes do happen, but when they harm others, you have to pay for those mistakes,
There are no do overs when you kill someone.
We have no idea what she said as she entered the apartment or if she said anything.
She was allowed to frame the encounter to best justify the shooting.
The dead man was not
Police departments weed out liars....she had been a cop for years with no credibility problems....everything she says makes sense....no reason to doubt her.
That is not true.
Amber had been investigated for a previous shooting.
Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean | Heavy.com
{...
Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean
Amber Guyger, who was on the Dallas police force for four years and was involved in a previous shooting, ...
Stories posted online and a database of police shootings identified Amber Guyger as having been involved in a previous officer-involved shooting. In that one, the man lived and she was on duty, news reports show.
The Dallas Police Department’s website wrote in 2017, “The suspect in this offense has been identified as Uvaldo Perez L/M/46. He is being charged with Taking A Weapon from an Officer, Possession of Meth, Possession of Marijuana, and Parole Violation. Mr. Perez remains hospitalized at this time. The officer involved in this incident is Officer Amber Guyger, #10702. She is assigned to the Southeast Crime Response Team (CRT) and has been on the department for three years and six months.”
The police website included this description of the Perez shooting:
On May 12, 2017, at about 8:58 am, Dallas officers from the Crime Response Team responded to the 8300 block of Reva Street after receiving information from undercover officers that a wanted female was at the location. When the uniformed officers arrived, they observed the female they believed to be wanted sitting in the front passenger seat of a vehicle with a male sitting in the front driver seat and another male sitting in the back seat. While officers were attempting to identify the female passenger, the male passenger sitting in the rear seat exited the vehicle after being told repeatedly by officers to remain seated. The male suspect then engaged in a physical confrontation with the officers. The suspect was able to gain control of one of the officer’s taser causing an officer to draw their firearm and shoot the suspect. The suspect was transported to an area hospital where he is listed in stable condition. There were no officers injured. This incident will be documented on case number 106261-2017
Mundo Hispanico, a Spanish-language publication, also wrote a story on the Perez shooting. The translation indicates that police were searching for a woman and made a traffic stop. During it, Perez is accused of trying to take the officer’s taser, and it was at that point that he was shot. He was shot in the abdomen but was listed as being in stable condition.
Perez entered a plea deal and admitted the charges against him, receiving a two-year prison sentence. ...}
And it is very clear she is lying.
The door in the apartment are self locking.
They are a spring closed firedoor that can not be ajar as she claimed.
It was a good shoot...what is your point.....the perp took a officers weapon...what do you think? that they should have stood around and waited for him to use it?
Anyhow any time there is a shooting there is an investigation....thus just because there was an investigtion means nothing....she was cleared of any wrong doing.
If the door was locked how did she get in? You are one of the dumber ones on here....and that is saying a lot.
No, the suspect was accused of only TRYING to grab a taser, not a gun, and not successfully.
Normally police should only be able to shoot if someone is attempting deadly force, not a taser.
Exactly, how did she get in?
I suspect she had a key, and her affair was not with a fellow officer.
Wow...talking about stoooopid hehheh
Lookie here dumbo....a taser can be used to disable a police officer making it very easy then for the perp to get his pistol and use it against him.
Now there might be a market out there for writing cheap fiction....you should check into that. Why waste your time writing fiction on here when you might could make a buck writing it for the market.
She obviously was not up to it or else she would not have shot.
Any ordinary person would not at all have shot in that situation.
A police officer isn't trained to back away and even if she had, there was no cover in the hallway and always a chance of an innocent walking out into an exchange of gunfire. Despite all the horseshit that's here in my thread, the fact of the matter is she believed she was confronting a burglar in her apartment. She was tired, overburdened, NOT drunk, and scared. The DA put her text messages and frivolous tweets in front of a jury which was NOT of her peers. Her defense was neutered by a racist judge who made a fool of herself with her body language, mannerisms, and obvious racial bias. When have you ever seen a PICTURE of a victim positioned in front of a jury day after day? Her expert witnesses could have proven the victim was moving, not sitting eating his ice cream. It was not allowed. WTF? He yelled at her and moved forward toward her when it was obvious she was a police officer and had to obey her command or get smoked. They both were culpable.....a few seconds of mayhem destroyed both lives.
It seems that the verdict on Gyger was political/racial. We all know she overreacted and was stupid. If she was a drunken Mexican illegal and killed three people, it would have been deemed an unavoidable accident. Given three years with parole if that. Lets don't kid ourselves. This is punitive and political...
Police departments weed out liars....she had been a cop for years with no credibility problems....everything she says makes sense....no reason to doubt her.
That is not true.
Amber had been investigated for a previous shooting.
Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean | Heavy.com
{...
Amber Guyger Shot Suspect Uvaldo Perez Before Botham Jean
Amber Guyger, who was on the Dallas police force for four years and was involved in a previous shooting, ...
Stories posted online and a database of police shootings identified Amber Guyger as having been involved in a previous officer-involved shooting. In that one, the man lived and she was on duty, news reports show.
The Dallas Police Department’s website wrote in 2017, “The suspect in this offense has been identified as Uvaldo Perez L/M/46. He is being charged with Taking A Weapon from an Officer, Possession of Meth, Possession of Marijuana, and Parole Violation. Mr. Perez remains hospitalized at this time. The officer involved in this incident is Officer Amber Guyger, #10702. She is assigned to the Southeast Crime Response Team (CRT) and has been on the department for three years and six months.”
The police website included this description of the Perez shooting:
On May 12, 2017, at about 8:58 am, Dallas officers from the Crime Response Team responded to the 8300 block of Reva Street after receiving information from undercover officers that a wanted female was at the location. When the uniformed officers arrived, they observed the female they believed to be wanted sitting in the front passenger seat of a vehicle with a male sitting in the front driver seat and another male sitting in the back seat. While officers were attempting to identify the female passenger, the male passenger sitting in the rear seat exited the vehicle after being told repeatedly by officers to remain seated. The male suspect then engaged in a physical confrontation with the officers. The suspect was able to gain control of one of the officer’s taser causing an officer to draw their firearm and shoot the suspect. The suspect was transported to an area hospital where he is listed in stable condition. There were no officers injured. This incident will be documented on case number 106261-2017
Mundo Hispanico, a Spanish-language publication, also wrote a story on the Perez shooting. The translation indicates that police were searching for a woman and made a traffic stop. During it, Perez is accused of trying to take the officer’s taser, and it was at that point that he was shot. He was shot in the abdomen but was listed as being in stable condition.
Perez entered a plea deal and admitted the charges against him, receiving a two-year prison sentence. ...}
And it is very clear she is lying.
The door in the apartment are self locking.
They are a spring closed firedoor that can not be ajar as she claimed.
It was a good shoot...what is your point.....the perp took a officers weapon...what do you think? that they should have stood around and waited for him to use it?
Anyhow any time there is a shooting there is an investigation....thus just because there was an investigtion means nothing....she was cleared of any wrong doing.
If the door was locked how did she get in? You are one of the dumber ones on here....and that is saying a lot.
No, the suspect was accused of only TRYING to grab a taser, not a gun, and not successfully.
Normally police should only be able to shoot if someone is attempting deadly force, not a taser.
Exactly, how did she get in?
I suspect she had a key, and her affair was not with a fellow officer.
Wow...talking about stoooopid hehheh
Lookie here dumbo....a taser can be used to disable a police officer making it very easy then for the perp to get his pistol and use it against him.
Now there might be a market out there for writing cheap fiction....you should check into that. Why waste your time writing fiction on here when you might could make a buck writing it for the market.
No, with at least 4 cops there, even if he succeeded in getting a taser, it would not have run any risk at all.
And the point is he never got the taser, so there was no valid reason to shoot him, at all.
There are many rumors connecting Amber and Jean.
Such as a previous noise complaint.
They knew each other.
Whether they were friendly or enemies, we will likely never know.
You clearly do not know the law.
If someone tries to use their hands to kill you, then you are free to use your hands to try to kill them back.
You are NOT free to shoot them.
The law does NOT allow you to use a weapon if they do not use a weapon.
Being in fear of your life is not enough.
And for you to have a reasonable fear for your life, the person has to already have committed a crime by trying to use a weapon on you.
In this case, there was not a single clue of any possible violent or life threatening action by Jean.
And it is foolish to bring up the Zimmerman case, because not only was there lots of blood and images of broken skin, but most people thing the jury was wrong and Zimmerman was guilty.
