Ready for Boots on the Ground in Iraq?

[occupied]

No matter what republicans would have done it would have resulted in more dead American soldiers by this point, there is no denying that.

 

[NoNukes]

So ... what would you military geniuses have done?

Take your time - tell us all about what YOU would have done.

It seems to be a commonality amongst 'Obable' haters to play arm-chair QB.

Whatever he does is wrong or socialist or Kenyan or whatever.

Our next POTUS should just ask Obamy what he would do and then do opposite, like the proverbial reverse barometer.

It's what the R's do anyhow.

Obama said from the start that the bombing is not going to have an immediate effect.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I say either go in there loaded for bear with lots of troops on the ground and clean out the shit hole once and for all or bring everybody home and STFU about Iraq. Don't do anything half-assed which is this President's policy on everything. My thoughts on all of those middle eastern countries. Put up or shut up.

 

[RandallFlagg]

It's another lie. ... One more lie from the Chicago thug.

Can you provide a source that tells us how this is a lie?

U.S. considers more military advisers for Iraq - CNN.com

BAGHDAD: U.S. dispatches more troops to northern Iraq as Yazidi crisis grows | World | MyrtleBeachOnline.com

AFTER SAYING THIS:

Obama: US won't send troops into combat in Iraq | MSNBC


LIAR.

 

[occupied]

I say either go in there loaded for bear with lots of troops on the ground and clean out the shit hole once and for all or bring everybody home and STFU about Iraq. Don't do anything half-assed which is this President's policy on everything. My thoughts on all of those middle eastern countries. Put up or shut up.

It's easy to act courageous when you do not actually have to fight.

 

[Geaux4it]

Nope. You didn't say what you'd do. Nope.

I'll tell you what. If I had the data from daily briefings Obama avoids I for sure could make an educated decision. Maybe if Obama started attending these meetings his decision making process would improve

-Geaux

Brilliant!

Thanks. I hope it helped you out.

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

It's another lie. ... One more lie from the Chicago thug.

Can you provide a source that tells us how this is a lie?

What does 'No boots on the ground' mean to you? Think about it real hard. We will await your response with bells on

-Geaux

 

[tinydancer]

So ... what would you military geniuses have done?

Take your time - tell us all about what YOU would have done.

It seems to be a commonality amongst 'Obable' haters to play arm-chair QB.

Whatever he does is wrong or socialist or Kenyan or whatever.

Our next POTUS should just ask Obamy what he would do and then do opposite, like the proverbial reverse barometer.

It's what the R's do anyhow.

Oh bullshit. It's a no brainer on what he could have done. When Iraq was asking for drone strikes against ISIS he could have delivered and prevented the invasion of ISIS.

Last summer they were asking for help to contain this terror army. Obama voted present.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'll tell you what. If I had the data from daily briefings Obama avoids I for sure could make an educated decision. Maybe if Obama started attending these meetings his decision making process would improve

-Geaux

Brilliant!

Thanks. I hope it helped you out.

-Geaux

You did. Except I still don't know what you'd do regarding Iraq and IS. Seems you don't have a clue. But....still....you know what the POTUS is doing is wrong. It just is.

Brilliant!

 

[Geaux4it]

No matter what republicans would have done it would have resulted in more dead American soldiers by this point, there is no denying that.

You would also have a military that respects the POTUS, there is no denying that.

-Geaux

 

[tinydancer]

Here it is in a nutshell. Obama and Cameron won't make a move because the lives of the Yazidis aren't worth jack shit to them.

'Simply put, the lives of Yazidis are not worth the extensive military commitment necessary to get directly involved in the evacuation of Yazidis.'

How desperate Yazidis are throwing themselves at relief helicopters as Iraq says it could take up to 500 days to save them all | Mail Online

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Boots on the ground won't happen until after the November elections.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Barry - either shit or get the hell off the pot. Grow a pair of balls (rather than those grape nuts you have) and get the damned job done.

The ground part of this is on the Kurds and the Iraqi Army and the Sunnis that will resust IS.

How about you grow a brain instead of that grapenut you have rattling around in your skull and start demanding and expecting that the Iraqis grow about two million pair and defend the country that we did (after the initial fuckup) to put a million or so in uniform to defend themselves. Specifically when they insisted they could handle it as Onama says,,... "and the Iraqi government, based on its political considerations, in part because Iraqis were tired of a U.S. occupation, declined to provide us those assurances. And on that basis, we left".

"Under the previous administration, we had turned over the country to a sovereign, democratically elected Iraqi government. In order for us to maintain troops in Iraq, we needed the invitation of the Iraqi government and we needed assurances that our personnel would be immune from prosecution if, for example, they were protecting themselves and ended up getting in a firefight with Iraqis, that they wouldn't be hauled before an Iraqi judicial system," Obama reiterated on Saturday, defending his decision to withdraw military personnel from the region. "

And the Iraqi government, based on its political considerations, in part because Iraqis were tired of a U.S. occupation, declined to provide us those assurances. And on that basis, we left."

 

[occupied]

No matter what republicans would have done it would have resulted in more dead American soldiers by this point, there is no denying that.

You would also have a military that respects the POTUS, there is no denying that.

-Geaux

Really? Maybe the ones who enjoy the thrill of combat but the vast majority are surely relived that we have not been feeding them to the warhawk wood chipper just so stay at home warriors like yourself can get a chubby watching war footage.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Barry - either shit or get the hell off the pot. Grow a pair of balls (rather than those grape nuts you have) and get the damned job done.

The ground part of this is on the Kurds and the Iraqi Army and the Sunnis that will IS.

How about you grow a brain instead of that grapenut you have rattling around in your skull and start demanding and expecting that the Iraqis grow about two million pair and defend the country that we did (after the initial fuckup) to put a million or so in uniform to defend themselves. Specifically when they insisted they could handle it as Onama says,,... "and the Iraqi government, based on its political considerations, in part because Iraqis were tired of a U.S. occupation, declined to provide us those assurances. And on that basis, we left".

"Under the previous administration, we had turned over the country to a sovereign, democratically elected Iraqi government. In order for us to maintain troops in Iraq, we needed the invitation of the Iraqi government and we needed assurances that our personnel would be immune from prosecution if, for example, they were protecting themselves and ended up getting in a firefight with Iraqis, that they wouldn't be hauled before an Iraqi judicial system," Obama reiterated on Saturday, defending his decision to withdraw military personnel from the region. "

And the Iraqi government, based on its political considerations, in part because Iraqis were tired of a U.S. occupation, declined to provide us those assurances. And on that basis, we left."

 

[Geaux4it]

No matter what republicans would have done it would have resulted in more dead American soldiers by this point, there is no denying that.

You would also have a military that respects the POTUS, there is no denying that.

-Geaux

Really? Maybe the ones who enjoy the thrill of combat but the vast majority are surely relived that we have not been feeding them to the warhawk wood chipper just so stay at home warriors like yourself can get a chubby watching war footage.

So, you're a veteran? Your inside knowledge is intriguing

-Geaux

 

[tinydancer]

Brilliant!

Thanks. I hope it helped you out.

-Geaux

You did. Except I still don't know what you'd do regarding Iraq and IS. Seems you don't have a clue. But....still....you know what the POTUS is doing is wrong. It just is.

Brilliant!

Obama has waited too long to deal with ISIS. Too bad, so sad. On Obama's watch they have become the largest and wealthiest terror army on the planet.

Obama and other western leaders really fucked up here.

 

[Geaux4it]

Iraq Policy: Washington’s Puzzle Palace Keeps Getting Curiouser

Let’s count the ways. It goes without saying that Obama is now busily bombing American military equipment. Some of that equipment is pretty high tech gear and especially lethal - not the kind that jihadists ordinarily train with in their desert lairs or mountain redoubts.

But then again, ISIS got provisioned by none other than the Iraqi Army. The latter not only dropped its uniforms for civvies during the battle for Mosul, but also left behind armored Humvees, heavy artillery, night vision systems, state of the art firearms and much else of like and similar nature.

Nor was this the first time that the Iraqi Army disarmed itself unilaterally. A while back they also surrendered their uniforms and guns when another American President - George W. Bush - bombed them.

That was called “shock and awe”. Afterwards, the remnants of the Iraqi army must have found it indeed shocking and awesome that Washington immediately pivoted - after hanging the country’s leader - and spent $25 billion re-equipping and training them in brand new uniforms and with far better weapons.

Fast-forward to 2014. The hasty hand-off of these American weapons to ISIS during its June blitzkrieg was easy enough to explain. On their way out of Baghdad, the Washington “nation builders” had equipped and trained a native army so that it could defend a “nation” which did not exist. What passed for “Iraq” was some very long, straight lines drawn on a map exactly 98 years ago by the British and French foreign offices as they carved up their winnings from the Ottoman Empire. What passed for governance within these so-called Sykes-Picot boundaries was a series of kings, generals and dictators - culminating in Saddam Hussein - who ruled from the barrel of whatever gun had been supplied by the highest bidder among the Great Powers.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...ngton’s-puzzle-palace-keeps-getting-curiouser

 

[occupied]

You would also have a military that respects the POTUS, there is no denying that.

-Geaux

Really? Maybe the ones who enjoy the thrill of combat but the vast majority are surely relived that we have not been feeding them to the warhawk wood chipper just so stay at home warriors like yourself can get a chubby watching war footage.

So, you're a veteran? Your inside knowledge is intriguing

-Geaux

I am but unlike many I do feel it adds anything to the discussion or makes me any more correct.

 

[tinydancer]

Boots on the ground won't happen until after the November elections.

Bingo! The Yazidis just aren't worth it to Cameron or Obama.

One of Britain’s most senior generals accused the ‘commitment-phobic’ Government of being ‘terrified’ of intervening in the Iraq crisis before next year’s general election.

General Sir Richard Shirreff told the Times: ‘The longer we sit on our hands and prevaricate, the more dangerous the situation is going to become’.


How desperate Yazidis are throwing themselves at relief helicopters as Iraq says it could take up to 500 days to save them all | Mail Online