Recent Rapid SST Rise

[Crick]

Except your heroes never let us look at the DATA. Instead they FUDGE it and post color charts you cut and paste all day... and bill the taxpayer for them...

LIAR

Data, free

Coastal Water Temperature Guide

The NCEI Coastal Water Temperature Guide (CWTG) provides recent ocean and Great Lakes temperatures and average water temperatures collected from buoys, tide gauges, and other monitoring stations in the United States and its territories. In addition to water temperature, users have access to...

www.ncei.noaa.gov

https://neo.gsfc.nasa.gov/view.php?datasetId=MYD28M

https://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/cloud-datasets?ids=Keywords&values=Oceans%3AOcean%20Temperature&view=list

Global ocean temperature anomalies 2023 | Statista

In 2023, the global ocean surface temperature was 0.91 degrees Celsius warmer than the 20th-century average.

www.statista.com

NOAA Climate Data Record (CDR) of Sea Surface Temperature - WHOI, Version 2

www.ncei.noaa.gov

How do hurricanes form?

oceanservice.noaa.gov

If there really was WARMING in the oceans, we WOULD have more and bigger canes. We do NOT....

You don't know what you're talkling about. See post #11 above.

 

[EMH]

LIAR

Data, free

Coastal Water Temperature Guide

The NCEI Coastal Water Temperature Guide (CWTG) provides recent ocean and Great Lakes temperatures and average water temperatures collected from buoys, tide gauges, and other monitoring stations in the United States and its territories. In addition to water temperature, users have access to...

www.ncei.noaa.gov

https://neo.gsfc.nasa.gov/view.php?datasetId=MYD28M

https://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/cloud-datasets?ids=Keywords&values=Oceans%3AOcean%20Temperature&view=list

Global ocean temperature anomalies 2023 | Statista

In 2023, the global ocean surface temperature was 0.91 degrees Celsius warmer than the 20th-century average.

www.statista.com

NOAA Climate Data Record (CDR) of Sea Surface Temperature - WHOI, Version 2

www.ncei.noaa.gov

You don't know what you're talkling about. See post #11 above.

We disagree.

You say your heroes are not fudging the data to show "warming" in the oceans that really does not exist.

The hurricane data DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT....

WHY is there no breakout in canes given all your "ocean warming?"


LOL!!!


Someone is lying, and it is not the hurricanes...

 

[Crick]

We disagree.

You say your heroes are not fudging the data to show "warming" in the oceans that really does not exist.

The hurricane data DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT....

WHY is there no breakout in canes given all your "ocean warming?"


LOL!!!


Someone is lying, and it is not the hurricanes...

You said climate scientists never let us look at their data. That is complete bullshit. We don't disagree. I'M TELLING THE TRUTH AND YOU ARE A LIAR.

 

[EMH]

You said climate scientists never let us look at their data.

Since the 2005 fudging of the atmospheric data, that is correct. To get the actual data recorded requires a lawsuit, and is often met with furious resistance....

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.



Is that in any of your colored FUDGE charts??

 

[Crick]

Since the 2005 fudging of the atmospheric data, that is correct. To get the actual data recorded requires a lawsuit, and is often met with furious resistance....

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.



Is that in any of your colored FUDGE charts??

For the fourth or fifth time, this link explicitly refutes what you're telling us. Do you know what the word "refute" means?

 

[EMH]

For the fourth or fifth time, this link explicitly refutes what you're telling us. Do you know what the word "refute" means?

LOL!!!

This LINK accurately describes how your fudgebaking liar heroes FUDGE DATA.


The DATA = highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere

PROBLEM = Co2 rose, atmospheric temps did not

"Solution" = FUDGE the data




REAL SCIENCE works this way:

Hypothesis: increasing atmospheric Co2 will increase atmospheric temperature

The DATA: Nope

SCIENCE: Hypothesis REJECTED



the conflict of these fudgebaking liars is ABSOLUTE, since if they followed REAL SCIENCE, they would be UNEMPLOYED and facing criminal fraud charges, charges that were ready to go in 2010 when homO hid them IN THE CLOSET....

obama climate silence 2010 2012 - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[Crick]

LOL!!!

This LINK accurately describes how your fudgebaking liar heroes FUDGE DATA.


The DATA = highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere

PROBLEM = Co2 rose, atmospheric temps did not

"Solution" = FUDGE the data




REAL SCIENCE works this way:

Hypothesis: increasing atmospheric Co2 will increase atmospheric temperature

The DATA: Nope

SCIENCE: Hypothesis REJECTED



the conflict of these fudgebaking liars is ABSOLUTE, since if they followed REAL SCIENCE, they would be UNEMPLOYED and facing criminal fraud charges, charges that were ready to go in 2010 when homO hid them IN THE CLOSET....

obama climate silence 2010 2012 - Google Search

www.google.com

Show us a single scientist who believes what you're trying to tell us.

And if you're going to tell us that they were forced to do so or bought off to do so, I'd like to see some evidence of that.

 

[EMH]

Show us a single scientist who believes what you're trying to tell us.

And if you're going to tell us that they were forced to do so or bought off to do so, I'd like to see some evidence of that.

The Stunning Statistical Fraud Behind The Global Warming Scare

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration may have a boring name, but it has a very important job: It measures U.S. temperatures. Unfortunately, its data are fraudulent.

www.investors.com

 

[Crick]

So, Tony Heller and James Dellingpole.

Delingpole is a writer. He has a degree in English
Tony Heller has a BS in geology and a MS in Electrical Engineering. He was a high school science teacher once. The only research his CV mentions is all in geology.

I find it far easier to believe that these two are being paid for specific opinions than that the thousands of actively researching PhDs are all involved in a conspiracy to lie to the public. You should too.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Remember Billy Boy's 22 January claim that the oceans were devoid of excess heat and there would be no El Nino in the foreseeable future?

Recent, rapid ocean warming ahead of El Niño alarms scientists

There’s growing concern that the oceans are heating up quickly – and scientists are unsure of the implications.

www.bbc.com

and the study on which this is based

Heat stored in the Earth system 1960–2020: where does the energy go?

Abstract. The Earth climate system is out of energy balance, and heat has accumulated continuously over the past decades, warming the ocean, the land, the cryosphere, and the atmosphere. According to the Sixth Assessment Report by Working Group I of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change...

essd.copernicus.org

I wonder if he needs a do-over.

I'm unclear when the laws of physics stopped working on planet Earth, now that it's taken on Faith that a wisp of atmospheric CO2 heats the oceans, at depths too!

 

[EMH]

So, Tony Heller and James Dellingpole.

Delingpole is a writer. He has a degree in English
Tony Heller has a BS in geology and a MS in Electrical Engineering. He was a high school science teacher once. The only research his CV mentions is all in geology.

I find it far easier to believe that these two are being paid for specific opinions than that the thousands of actively researching PhDs are all involved in a conspiracy to lie to the public. You should too.

LOL!!!


Once again the mental case beaked birdbrain parrot insists it is the NUMBER of conflicted liars that matters, not the actual DATA...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Remember Billy Boy's 22 January claim that the oceans were devoid of excess heat and there would be no El Nino in the foreseeable future?

Recent, rapid ocean warming ahead of El Niño alarms scientists

There’s growing concern that the oceans are heating up quickly – and scientists are unsure of the implications.

www.bbc.com

and the study on which this is based

Heat stored in the Earth system 1960–2020: where does the energy go?

Abstract. The Earth climate system is out of energy balance, and heat has accumulated continuously over the past decades, warming the ocean, the land, the cryosphere, and the atmosphere. According to the Sixth Assessment Report by Working Group I of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change...

essd.copernicus.org

I wonder if he needs a do-over.

The linked article claims that raising temperatures 1C will kill marine life

 

[EMH]

I'm unclear when the laws of physics stopped working on planet Earth, now that it's taken on Faith that a wisp of atmospheric CO2 heats the oceans, at depths too!

Study Finds Earth’s Ocean Abyss Has Not Warmed - NASA Science

Oct. 6, 2014: The cold waters of Earth’s deep ocean have not warmed measurably since 2005, according to a new NASA study, leaving unsolved the mystery of why global warming appears to have slowed in recent years. Scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California...

science.nasa.gov

 

[Crick]

The linked article claims that raising temperatures 1C will kill marine life

The linked article says this:

Even this seemingly small average increase has significant real-world consequences.

• Loss of species: more frequent and intense marine heatwaves lead to mass mortality of sea life. This is particularly damaging for coral reefs.
• More extreme weather: increased heat in the upper ocean surface means hurricanes and cyclones can pick up more energy. This means they become more intense and longer-lasting.
• Sea-level rise: warmer waters take up more space - known as thermal expansion - and can greatly accelerate the melting of glaciers from Greenland and Antarctica that flow into the oceans. This raises global sea levels, increasing risks of coastal flooding.
• Less ability to absorb CO2: the oceans currently take up about a quarter of greenhouse gas emissions. Warmer waters have less ability to absorb CO2. If the oceans take up less CO2 in future, more would accumulate in the atmosphere - further warming the air and oceans.

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Please explain why you think these are humorous.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The linked article says this:

Even this seemingly small average increase has significant real-world consequences.

• Loss of species: more frequent and intense marine heatwaves lead to mass mortality of sea life. This is particularly damaging for coral reefs.
• More extreme weather: increased heat in the upper ocean surface means hurricanes and cyclones can pick up more energy. This means they become more intense and longer-lasting.
• Sea-level rise: warmer waters take up more space - known as thermal expansion - and can greatly accelerate the melting of glaciers from Greenland and Antarctica that flow into the oceans. This raises global sea levels, increasing risks of coastal flooding.
• Less ability to absorb CO2: the oceans currently take up about a quarter of greenhouse gas emissions. Warmer waters have less ability to absorb CO2. If the oceans take up less CO2 in future, more would accumulate in the atmosphere - further warming the air and oceans.

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Please explain why you think these are humorous.

Repeating absurd, false, paid for claims ad infinitum does not make them true

First, CO2 does not raise temperature on planet Earth, never did, never will, never could.
Second, see First above

 

[jc456]

There is fudge and there is data.

The worst decade for hurricanes is the 1940s..

The DATA...

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

And the last time a Cat 5 put 180+ mph gusts on Martha's Vineyard was 1938, which is why homO and Michael Robinson bought beachfront property with money from Chinese and Ukrainian kickbacks...


NO BREAKOUT IN CANE ACTIVITY = NO OCEAN WARMING

his own link told him it wasn't true. Here's a sentence from the summary of the report he attached":

In summary, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human-caused increases in greenhouse gases have caused a change in past Atlantic basin hurricane activity that is outside the range of natural variability, although greenhouse gases are strongly linked to global warming.

 

[EMH]

his own link told him it wasn't true. Here's a sentence from the summary of the report he attached":

In summary, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human-caused increases in greenhouse gases have caused a change in past Atlantic basin hurricane activity that is outside the range of natural variability, although greenhouse gases are strongly linked to global warming.

It also clearly documents that the 1940s are still the strongest Cane decade on record.

Which explains why crick tried once to say "hurricanes SINCE 1950...."

 

[EMH]

This raises global sea levels

NOT HAPPENING

Still waiting for a PHOTO of one single landmark sinking...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Delingpole is a writer. He has a degree in English
Tony Heller has a BS in geology and a MS in Electrical Engineering.

And Michael Mann has a Nobel Prize.

 

[Crick]

And Michael Mann has a Nobel Prize.

PETTY: (of behavior) characterized by an undue concern for trivial matters, especially in a small-minded or spiteful way.