Red Pill: The 35 Percent Corporate Tax Myth

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The 35 Percent Corporate Tax Myth

Corporate Tax Avoidance by Fortune 500 Companies, 2008 to 2015

corpstudyfact2017.pdf



I know, realizing you've been lied to by Fox News hosts you've trusted… it hurts.
 
Tax Subsidies by Industry:

We also looked at the size of the total tax subsidies received by each industry for the 258 companies in our study. Among the notable findings:

corpstudyc6industrybreaks.jpg


• 55 percent of the total tax subsidies went to just four industries: financial, utilities, telecommunications, and oil, gas & pipelines — even though these companies only enjoyed 35.5 percent of the U.S. profits in our sample.

• Other industries receive a disproportionately small share of tax subsidies. Companies engaged in retail and wholesale trade, for example, represented 17 percent of the eight-year U.S. profits in our sample, but enjoyed less than 5 percent of the tax subsidies.

It seems rather odd, not to mention highly wasteful, that the industries with the largest subsidies are ones that would seem to need them least. Regulated utilities, for example, make investment decisions in concert with their regulators based on needs of communities they serve. Oil and gas companies are so profitable that even President George W. Bush said they did not need tax breaks. He could have said the same about telecommunications companies. Financial companies get so much federal support that adding huge tax breaks on top of that seems unnecessary.

HISTORICAL COMPARISONS OF TAX RATES AND TAX SUBSIDIES

How do our results for 2008 to 2015 compare to corporate tax rates in earlier years? The answer illustrates how corporations have managed to get around some of the corporate tax reforms enacted in 1986, and how tax avoidance has surged with the help of our political leaders.

By 1986, President Ronald Reagan fully repudiated his earlier policy of showering tax breaks on corporations. Reagan’s Tax Reform Act of 1986 closed tens of billions of dollars in corporate loopholes, so that by 1988, our survey of large corporations (published in 1989) found that the overall effective corporate tax rate was up to 26.5 percent, compared to only 14.1 percent in 1981-83.[2] That improvement occurred even though the statutory corporate tax rate was cut from 46 percent to 34 percent as part of the 1986 reforms.[3]

In the 1990s, however, many corporations began to find ways around the 1986 reforms, abetted by changes in the tax laws as well as by tax-avoidance schemes devised by major accounting firms. As a result, in our 1996 to1998 survey of 250 companies, we found that their average effective corporate tax rate had fallen to only 21.7 percent. Our September 2004 study found that corporate tax cuts adopted in 2002 had driven the effective rate down to only 17.2 percent in 2002 and 2003. The eight-year average rate found in the current study is only slightly higher, at 21.2 percent.

As a share of GDP, overall federal corporate tax collections in fiscal 2002 and 2003 fell to only 1.24 percent. At the time, that was their lowest sustained level as a share of the economy since World War II. Corporate taxes as a share of GDP recovered somewhat in the mid-2000s after the 2002-enacted tax breaks expired, averaging 2.3 percent of GDP from fiscal 2004 through fiscal 2008. But over the past five fiscal years (2011 to 2015) that this study examines, total corporate income tax payments fell back to only 1.6 percent of GDP on average.

Corporate taxes paid for more than a quarter of federal outlays in the 1950s and a fifth in the 1960s. They began to decline during the Nixon administration and remained low in the Reagan era. By fiscal year 2015, corporate taxes paid for a mere 10.6 percent of the federal government’s expenses.

In this context, it seems odd that anyone would insist that corporate tax reform should be “revenue neutral.” If we are going to get our nation’s fiscal house back in order, increasing corporate income tax revenues should play an important role.
 
Hilly's husband pardoned the most notorious corporate criminal in history while he was on the FBI 10 most wanted for a couple of bucks donated to the Clinton library. That's the way the hypocrite democrat institution works. Barry Hussein didn't just give corporate breaks to so-called alternate energy enterprises. He gave away billions in taxpayer dollars to Solindra against advice from experts and Solindra corporate execs retired in comfort when the company went under. Democrats don't hate corporations, they are corporations. What they hate is smart republican administrations who don't care about the political bullshit.
 
I'd like to take the time to read this bullshit, but it's just cut and pasted shit like regressive parasite posts and ends up getting debunked and ridiculed.

No one is under any delusions the "rich" are getting soaked by the feds. They OWN the feds.

Conservatives want to take power away from the feds and make them less valuable to sociopaths who buy senate campaigns and presidents. They still pay almost all the fucking taxes, but bed wetting parasites won't be satisfied until everyone is as poor and worthless as they are.


 
Meaningless unless and until there is an agreed on definition of subsidy and welfare.
 
The left have been spitting hatred at corporations for decades, while investing heavily in the very same corporations what does that tell you, faux rage.
 
Progressives discussion of economics is nothing more than a lame attempt to convince you that, this time, you wont end up like Detroit or Venezuela.
 
Meaningless unless and until there is an agreed on definition of subsidy and welfare.


Subsidy -- read the report, lots of detail. Clearly defined.

Welfare -- hyperbole (corps get money from government, and political rhetoric puts negative spin on it)

There you go!
 
Yes deductions exist, even a liberal has selectively read enough economics to know about them.

What Trump needs to do is close in the gaps and bring the rate down massively so that regular people without access to hordes of lobbyists can also make it.
 
Progressives discussion of economics is nothing more than a lame attempt to convince you that, this time, you wont end up like Detroit or Venezuela.

No Red Pill for Dame Frankie, he goes for the ignorant bliss of the blue pill.

Fare thee well, Hiawatha...
 
Irrelavent.

The nominal rate induces tax-avoidance behavior.

Lower the corporate tax rate, and that goes away.
 
Meaningless unless and until there is an agreed on definition of subsidy and welfare.


Subsidy -- read the report, lots of detail. Clearly defined.

Welfare -- hyperbole (corps get money from government, and political rhetoric puts negative spin on it)

There you go!
I said agreed on definitions.

Welfare to liberals. Corporations get to keep their own money.

This is why I said an agreed on definition.
 
Corporations are moving their headquarters to other countries to avoid our high corporate taxes FACT! I swear these petty liberals would rather have $0.00 revenue from these corporations than lower the corporate taxes a single dime.

You see this behavior in Dem run states who taxed their businesses like vamp sucking moochers until the businesses said fuck it and relocated to another state. Liberal parasites will absolutely kill their hosts.
 
Yes deductions exist, even a liberal has selectively read enough economics to know about them.

What Trump needs to do is close in the gaps and bring the rate down massively so that regular people without access to hordes of lobbyists can also make it.


Ya, see… the people with the hordes of lobbyists will never let that happen.

Because money is free speech.

And Trump doesn't give two shits about the forgotten man. That was his pet name for the voter who voted for him because he promised things...

One "game-changer" after another has been running on that notion of getting Washington to work for the people by turning out the high-priced lobbyists…. all failed and went down in flames.

The influence industry is a billion dollar operation and it mostly runs from K Street.

K street is the reason for the Neiman Marcus and five-star chefs in Falls Church, Virginia. Look up the pricey suburbs of D.C. and see that things were like prior to 1970.

Prior to about 1970 very few in D.C. had any real money to throw around on fancy food, clothes, homes, cars…. But then big money grew and grew and the influence industry boomed.



Now try to find an apartment or condo in a "professional" neighborhood with a gym and good Metro access.

Money owns that town.
 
Meaningless unless and until there is an agreed on definition of subsidy and welfare.


Subsidy -- read the report, lots of detail. Clearly defined.

Welfare -- hyperbole (corps get money from government, and political rhetoric puts negative spin on it)

There you go!
I said agreed on definitions.

Welfare to liberals. Corporations get to keep their own money.

This is why I said an agreed on definition.

Do you know what hyperbole means? I said welfare (as in corporate) is political rhetoric. Doesn't mean the same thing as say food stamps.

Subsidies (the more correct term) are not "their own" money. They are direct payments. (Ayn Rand would be aghast)



Try to keep up.
 
Meaningless unless and until there is an agreed on definition of subsidy and welfare.


Subsidy -- read the report, lots of detail. Clearly defined.

Welfare -- hyperbole (corps get money from government, and political rhetoric puts negative spin on it)

There you go!
I said agreed on definitions.

Welfare to liberals. Corporations get to keep their own money.

This is why I said an agreed on definition.

Do you know what hyperbole means? I said welfare (as in corporate) is political rhetoric. Doesn't mean the same thing as say food stamps.

Subsidies (the more correct term) are not "their own" money. They are direct payments. (Ayn Rand would be aghast)



Try to keep up.
Then you're a liar.

Have a nice day.

/thread
 
Tax Subsidies by Industry:

We also looked at the size of the total tax subsidies received by each industry for the 258 companies in our study. Among the notable findings:

corpstudyc6industrybreaks.jpg


• 55 percent of the total tax subsidies went to just four industries: financial, utilities, telecommunications, and oil, gas & pipelines — even though these companies only enjoyed 35.5 percent of the U.S. profits in our sample.

• Other industries receive a disproportionately small share of tax subsidies. Companies engaged in retail and wholesale trade, for example, represented 17 percent of the eight-year U.S. profits in our sample, but enjoyed less than 5 percent of the tax subsidies.

It seems rather odd, not to mention highly wasteful, that the industries with the largest subsidies are ones that would seem to need them least. Regulated utilities, for example, make investment decisions in concert with their regulators based on needs of communities they serve. Oil and gas companies are so profitable that even President George W. Bush said they did not need tax breaks. He could have said the same about telecommunications companies. Financial companies get so much federal support that adding huge tax breaks on top of that seems unnecessary.

HISTORICAL COMPARISONS OF TAX RATES AND TAX SUBSIDIES

How do our results for 2008 to 2015 compare to corporate tax rates in earlier years? The answer illustrates how corporations have managed to get around some of the corporate tax reforms enacted in 1986, and how tax avoidance has surged with the help of our political leaders.

By 1986, President Ronald Reagan fully repudiated his earlier policy of showering tax breaks on corporations. Reagan’s Tax Reform Act of 1986 closed tens of billions of dollars in corporate loopholes, so that by 1988, our survey of large corporations (published in 1989) found that the overall effective corporate tax rate was up to 26.5 percent, compared to only 14.1 percent in 1981-83.[2] That improvement occurred even though the statutory corporate tax rate was cut from 46 percent to 34 percent as part of the 1986 reforms.[3]

In the 1990s, however, many corporations began to find ways around the 1986 reforms, abetted by changes in the tax laws as well as by tax-avoidance schemes devised by major accounting firms. As a result, in our 1996 to1998 survey of 250 companies, we found that their average effective corporate tax rate had fallen to only 21.7 percent. Our September 2004 study found that corporate tax cuts adopted in 2002 had driven the effective rate down to only 17.2 percent in 2002 and 2003. The eight-year average rate found in the current study is only slightly higher, at 21.2 percent.

As a share of GDP, overall federal corporate tax collections in fiscal 2002 and 2003 fell to only 1.24 percent. At the time, that was their lowest sustained level as a share of the economy since World War II. Corporate taxes as a share of GDP recovered somewhat in the mid-2000s after the 2002-enacted tax breaks expired, averaging 2.3 percent of GDP from fiscal 2004 through fiscal 2008. But over the past five fiscal years (2011 to 2015) that this study examines, total corporate income tax payments fell back to only 1.6 percent of GDP on average.

Corporate taxes paid for more than a quarter of federal outlays in the 1950s and a fifth in the 1960s. They began to decline during the Nixon administration and remained low in the Reagan era. By fiscal year 2015, corporate taxes paid for a mere 10.6 percent of the federal government’s expenses.

In this context, it seems odd that anyone would insist that corporate tax reform should be “revenue neutral.” If we are going to get our nation’s fiscal house back in order, increasing corporate income tax revenues should play an important role.

Hilly's husband pardoned the most notorious corporate criminal in history while he was on the FBI 10 most wanted for a couple of bucks donated to the Clinton library. That's the way the hypocrite democrat institution works. Barry Hussein didn't just give corporate breaks to so-called alternate energy enterprises. He gave away billions in taxpayer dollars to Solindra against advice from experts and Solindra corporate execs retired in comfort when the company went under. Democrats don't hate corporations, they are corporations. What they hate is smart republican administrations who don't care about the political bullshit.

I'd like to take the time to read this bullshit, but it's just cut and pasted shit like regressive parasite posts and ends up getting debunked and ridiculed.

No one is under any delusions the "rich" are getting soaked by the feds. They OWN the feds.

Conservatives want to take power away from the feds and make them less valuable to sociopaths who buy senate campaigns and presidents. They still pay almost all the fucking taxes, but bed wetting parasites won't be satisfied until everyone is as poor and worthless as they are.


You gotta love a leftist who is phony as the day is long. Do you think the leftist knows that corporations are NOT people, lol. Where do they GET their money to pay taxes? FROM PEOPLE! So what happens when taxes go up? Why prices go up, which means people are the ones actually paying the taxes. You see, corporations are NOT taxed, they are TAX COLLECTORS!

So, I have a question for the Republicans. Since it is obvious this leftist has a hard-on for corporations, why did he buy the computer or phone he posted this thread on? (we all wish he wouldn't have, lol) Why does he buy gasoline to put in his car.........in fact, why did he buy a car at all? What kind of gym shoes do you think he wears, lol? Hell, he not only purchased them, but they were probably made in some sweat shop by little kids somewhere in the Orient! Does he have cable? What kind of TV? What kind of super-duper phone? An I-phone, shame, shame, shame on him!

Point is----------> this guy is either rich, so doesn't care if either.......prices go down...........or more jobs are created because a larger bottomline......or more investors get a few more bucks because the government took less. Or then again........maybe he doesn't care because he is on the government dole, so doesn't care about anything because WE are supporting him.

In either case, he is out of touch just like all leftists. He believes HE has moral authority, lol. He KNOWS what is best for all, not everyone should choose for themselves. And, that the GOVERNMENT knows what to do best with money; eventhough most ALL politicians are more crooked than any one of us.

Let me tell ya a little lefty joke, and I think it fits the OP perfectly---------->

So a leftist crook (we will name this crook something that nobody would ever call themselves.........something like HAZLNUT) breaks in a very dark house. He has a flashlight, and starts shining it around looking at the TV, DVD player, and stereo, when all of the sudden Hazlnut hears, "be careful, Jesus is watching!" Hazlnut instantly crouches down, and again hears, "be careful, Jesus is watching!"

So now old Hazy is nervous and starts shining his light to the other side of the room, and what does he see? A parrot on a perch looking directly at him. Old Hazy addresses the parrot, "did you say that?" Oh yes says the parrot, I did! Hazy lets out a sigh of relief, and returns to his old cocky ways while glaring at the parrot, "and I suppose your name is Jesus, you dumbass parrot." The parrot replies, "oh no, my name is not Jesus, it is Moses." "Moses" says Hazy to the parrot! What kind of illiterate, stupid, homophobic, racist, Christian owner would name a parrot Moses? The parrot replied, "the same illiterate, stupid, homophobic, racist, Christian owner, that named his Rottweiler, JESUS-)
 

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