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Remember All the Confusing CDC Messaging?

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Well they weren't perfect (who is?), but a lot of it came because of Trump Admin interference.

CDC director Robert Redfield, former top deputy Anne Schuchat and others described how the Trump White House and its allies repeatedly “bullied” staff, tried to rewrite their publications and threatened their jobs in an attempt to align the CDC with the more optimistic view of the pandemic espoused by Donald Trump, the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis concluded in a report released Monday..

Several public health officials detailed a months-long campaign against Schuchat sparked by Trump appointees’ belief that her grim assessments of the pandemic reflected poorly on the president, leading Schuchat, a 32-year CDC veteran, to openly wonder if she would be fired in the summer of 2020, her colleagues told the panel.
The panel’s latest report also offers new insight into key flash points, such as a CDC-backed plan to require masks on public and commercial transportation in the summer of 2020, with Martin Cetron, director of the agency’s division of global migration and quarantine, citing evidence that the requirement would reduce covid risks to travelers.
The plan was backed by the travel industry and “could have made a significant contribution” by curbing infections and deaths ahead of a fall and winter virus surge that year, Cetron added, but Trump officials blocked the measure. President Biden later issued a similar order on his second day in office in January 2021.
 
Well they weren't perfect (who is?), but a lot of it came because of Trump Admin interference.

CDC director Robert Redfield, former top deputy Anne Schuchat and others described how the Trump White House and its allies repeatedly “bullied” staff, tried to rewrite their publications and threatened their jobs in an attempt to align the CDC with the more optimistic view of the pandemic espoused by Donald Trump, the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis concluded in a report released Monday..

Several public health officials detailed a months-long campaign against Schuchat sparked by Trump appointees’ belief that her grim assessments of the pandemic reflected poorly on the president, leading Schuchat, a 32-year CDC veteran, to openly wonder if she would be fired in the summer of 2020, her colleagues told the panel.
The panel’s latest report also offers new insight into key flash points, such as a CDC-backed plan to require masks on public and commercial transportation in the summer of 2020, with Martin Cetron, director of the agency’s division of global migration and quarantine, citing evidence that the requirement would reduce covid risks to travelers.
The plan was backed by the travel industry and “could have made a significant contribution” by curbing infections and deaths ahead of a fall and winter virus surge that year, Cetron added, but Trump officials blocked the measure. President Biden later issued a similar order on his second day in office in January 2021.
In truth, the messaging confusion with the CDC and all healthcare workers came from the media which spent their entire time trying to paint Trump as the bad guy rather than speak truth to power and question the little tin dictators like Fauci.
 
In truth, the messaging confusion with the CDC and all healthcare workers came from the media which spent their entire time trying to paint Trump as the bad guy rather than speak truth to power and question the little tin dictators like Fauci.
Read the OP stupid.
 
This prioritization of politics, contempt for science, and refusal to follow the advice of public health experts harmed the nation’s ability to respond effectively to the coronavirus crisis and put Americans at risk,” Clyburn said in a statement.
Clyburn’s panel has spent more than two years investigating the Trump administration’s pandemic response, issuing reports that detailed White House pressure on the Food and Drug Administration to authorize unproven coronavirus treatments, such as the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, and its efforts to overrule public health officials on coronavirus guidance for churches; and exploring how its focus on challenging the 2020 election outcome distracted from the virus response, among other findings.
 
So DT blocked attempts at useless face diapers so the "experts" botched dempanic response is all his fault....
The sad thing is you probably actually believe this makes sense in some bizarre way.

He should have told "dr" Fauxi & the rest to shove it when they first started on the rona BS.
No on lockdowns & masks, yes to HCQ, Vit D, Zinc, Ivermectin & a targeted response for vulnerable seniors & morbidities. That's how they botched the proper response to a slightly worse than avg flu.
 
So DT blocked attempts at useless face diapers so the "experts" botched dempanic response is all his fault....
The sad thing is you probably actually believe this makes sense in some bizarre way.

He should have told "dr" Fauxi & the rest to shove it when they first started on the rona BS.
No on lockdowns & masks, yes to HCQ, Vit D, Zinc, Ivermectin & a targeted response for vulnerable seniors & morbidities. That's how they botched the proper response to a slightly worse than avg flu.
So the Trump Admin interferes with the CDC doing it's job...and asshole like above LOVE that.

Because ya know...Steven fucking Miller knows more about medicine and pandemics than actual ...ya know....doctors
 
Well they weren't perfect (who is?), but a lot of it came because of Trump Admin interference.

CDC director Robert Redfield, former top deputy Anne Schuchat and others described how the Trump White House and its allies repeatedly “bullied” staff, tried to rewrite their publications and threatened their jobs in an attempt to align the CDC with the more optimistic view of the pandemic espoused by Donald Trump, the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis concluded in a report released Monday..

Several public health officials detailed a months-long campaign against Schuchat sparked by Trump appointees’ belief that her grim assessments of the pandemic reflected poorly on the president, leading Schuchat, a 32-year CDC veteran, to openly wonder if she would be fired in the summer of 2020, her colleagues told the panel.
The panel’s latest report also offers new insight into key flash points, such as a CDC-backed plan to require masks on public and commercial transportation in the summer of 2020, with Martin Cetron, director of the agency’s division of global migration and quarantine, citing evidence that the requirement would reduce covid risks to travelers.
The plan was backed by the travel industry and “could have made a significant contribution” by curbing infections and deaths ahead of a fall and winter virus surge that year, Cetron added, but Trump officials blocked the measure. President Biden later issued a similar order on his second day in office in January 2021.
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Well they weren't perfect (who is?), but a lot of it came because of Trump Admin interference.

CDC director Robert Redfield, former top deputy Anne Schuchat and others described how the Trump White House and its allies repeatedly “bullied” staff, tried to rewrite their publications and threatened their jobs in an attempt to align the CDC with the more optimistic view of the pandemic espoused by Donald Trump, the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis concluded in a report released Monday..

Several public health officials detailed a months-long campaign against Schuchat sparked by Trump appointees’ belief that her grim assessments of the pandemic reflected poorly on the president, leading Schuchat, a 32-year CDC veteran, to openly wonder if she would be fired in the summer of 2020, her colleagues told the panel.
The panel’s latest report also offers new insight into key flash points, such as a CDC-backed plan to require masks on public and commercial transportation in the summer of 2020, with Martin Cetron, director of the agency’s division of global migration and quarantine, citing evidence that the requirement would reduce covid risks to travelers.
The plan was backed by the travel industry and “could have made a significant contribution” by curbing infections and deaths ahead of a fall and winter virus surge that year, Cetron added, but Trump officials blocked the measure. President Biden later issued a similar order on his second day in office in January 2021.
In other words the Trump Administration was right, and the CDC used fear mongering to scare our citizens over a virus that had a survival rate of 99.8%.
 
So the Trump Admin interferes with the CDC doing it's job...and asshole like above LOVE that.

Because ya know...Steven fucking Miller knows more about medicine and pandemics than actual ...ya know....doctors
The CDC doesn’t have “doctors”, they have bureaucrats who get paid off by Big Pharma.
 
So the Trump Admin interferes with the CDC doing it's job...and asshole like above LOVE that.

Because ya know...Steven fucking Miller knows more about medicine and pandemics than actual ...ya know....doctors

A random monkey in the Los Angeles Zoo got more factually correct about the Wuhan Designer Virus than the CDC (committee for democrat collusion) did.

A bunch of fucking clowns at best - but in reality far worse.
 
This prioritization of politics, contempt for science, and refusal to follow the advice of public health experts harmed the nation’s ability to respond effectively to the coronavirus crisis and put Americans at risk,” Clyburn said in a statement.
Clyburn’s panel has spent more than two years investigating the Trump administration’s pandemic response, issuing reports that detailed White House pressure on the Food and Drug Administration to authorize unproven coronavirus treatments, such as the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, and its efforts to overrule public health officials on coronavirus guidance for churches; and exploring how its focus on challenging the 2020 election outcome distracted from the virus response, among other findings.
If you don’t know after all that’s happened since COVID that medical science has been entirely controlled, you don’t know much.
 
Well they weren't perfect (who is?), but a lot of it came because of Trump Admin interference.

CDC director Robert Redfield, former top deputy Anne Schuchat and others described how the Trump White House and its allies repeatedly “bullied” staff, tried to rewrite their publications and threatened their jobs in an attempt to align the CDC with the more optimistic view of the pandemic espoused by Donald Trump, the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis concluded in a report released Monday..

Several public health officials detailed a months-long campaign against Schuchat sparked by Trump appointees’ belief that her grim assessments of the pandemic reflected poorly on the president, leading Schuchat, a 32-year CDC veteran, to openly wonder if she would be fired in the summer of 2020, her colleagues told the panel.
The panel’s latest report also offers new insight into key flash points, such as a CDC-backed plan to require masks on public and commercial transportation in the summer of 2020, with Martin Cetron, director of the agency’s division of global migration and quarantine, citing evidence that the requirement would reduce covid risks to travelers.
The plan was backed by the travel industry and “could have made a significant contribution” by curbing infections and deaths ahead of a fall and winter virus surge that year, Cetron added, but Trump officials blocked the measure. President Biden later issued a similar order on his second day in office in January 2021.
The CDC's problem was to remain creditable while giving guidance to the public on a new virus that little was unknown and information was constantly changing as we learned more about it.

The White House Problem was quite different, getting Trump reelected. The White House's position was to support what the public really wanted to do, burn the mask, fuck the social distancing, and get life back the way it was before the virus while still supporting the CDC whose position was of course just the opposite of the White House position.

If the pandemic had occurred in Trump's first year in office with the next presidential election years off, I think the CDC and White House would have been a lot more instep. We would have had a lot fewer deniers of virus, vaccine, etc. and probably less deaths. The pandemic was a real game changer.

Had Trump taken the position of the dutiful father figure telling the kids they have to take their medicine and follow the doctors advice, always supportive of the CDC and sympathizing with the public, Trump would have been reelected, and the vaccine and virus diners would have had no support and the country would be a lot better off today.
 
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Well they weren't perfect (who is?), but a lot of it came because of Trump Admin interference.

CDC director Robert Redfield, former top deputy Anne Schuchat and others described how the Trump White House and its allies repeatedly “bullied” staff, tried to rewrite their publications and threatened their jobs in an attempt to align the CDC with the more optimistic view of the pandemic espoused by Donald Trump, the House select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis concluded in a report released Monday..

Several public health officials detailed a months-long campaign against Schuchat sparked by Trump appointees’ belief that her grim assessments of the pandemic reflected poorly on the president, leading Schuchat, a 32-year CDC veteran, to openly wonder if she would be fired in the summer of 2020, her colleagues told the panel.
The panel’s latest report also offers new insight into key flash points, such as a CDC-backed plan to require masks on public and commercial transportation in the summer of 2020, with Martin Cetron, director of the agency’s division of global migration and quarantine, citing evidence that the requirement would reduce covid risks to travelers.
The plan was backed by the travel industry and “could have made a significant contribution” by curbing infections and deaths ahead of a fall and winter virus surge that year, Cetron added, but Trump officials blocked the measure. President Biden later issued a similar order on his second day in office in January 2021.

Trump should have throw Fauxi into Gitmo
 
A random monkey in the Los Angeles Zoo got more factually correct about the Wuhan Designer Virus than the CDC (committee for democrat collusion) did.

A bunch of fucking clowns at best - but in reality far worse.
Because of...yea...Trump Admin interference
 
If the pandemic had occurred in Trump's first year in office with the next presidential election years off, I think the CDC and White House would have been a lot more instep. We would have had a lot fewer deniers of virus, vaccine, etc. and probably less deaths. The pandemic was a real game changer.
Pure nonsense/ Trump was in "re-election" mode from day one always trying to win the 24 news cycle.

He'd have done nothing differently other than cast blame even more.
 
The CDC's problem was to remain creditable while giving guidance to the public on a new virus that little was unknown and information was constantly changing as we learned more about it.

The White House Problem was quite different, getting Trump reelected. The White House's position was to support what the public really wanted to do, burn the mask, fuck the social distancing, and get life back the way it was before the virus while still supporting the CDC whose position was of course just the opposite of the White House position.

If the pandemic had occurred in Trump's first year in office with the next presidential election years off, I think the CDC and White House would have been a lot more instep. We would have had a lot fewer deniers of virus, vaccine, etc. and probably less deaths. The pandemic was a real game changer.

Had Trump taken the position of the dutiful father figure telling the kids they have to take their medicine and follow the doctors advice, always supportive of the CDC and sympathizing with the public, Trump would have been reelected, and the vaccine and virus diners would have had no support and the country would be a lot better off today.
Pfft.
I was never participating in the experiment from day one.
Trump had absolutely zero bearing on my personal risk assessment and private health decision.
 
Pfft.
I was never participating in the experiment from day one.
Trump had absolutely zero bearing on my personal risk assessment and private health decision.
There's all kinds of nuts out there. I bet you believe in the Lizard People too
 

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