Rep. L. Gohmert (R-Texas) VP Pence has ***Exclusive Authority*** to refuse EC Electors from Battleground States

GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

That's from an "anonymously sourced" article. "Negotiating" with Pence would have no legal effect at all. What that article suggested makes absolutely no sense. Only a declaratory judgment from a court would have legal force of law.
The article I read was from Politico and the source was Gohmert's attorneys.

In a motion to expedite proceedings, Gohmert and the electors revealed that their lawyers had reached out to Pence’s counsel in the Office of the Vice President to attempt to reach agreement before going to court.

“In the teleconference, Plaintiffs' counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President's counsel that Plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” according to Gohmert’s filing. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”



We have no idea why his attorneys chose that strategy.

But VP Pence is on record stating that he will fight until ONLY LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED.


.
He said "until every legal vote is counted." That's his clever way of not playin'. He will accept as legal the legal certified votes sent to him by the 50 states because no one has proven any of those votes were illegal.


As was done by the Demo Rats in 1960 , besides the EC Electors chosen by the Governors, slates of electors chosen by Republican-led state legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are being sent to DC.

VP Pence has the exclusive authority to decide which list he will accept.


.
12th Amendment says he needs to count the certified ones.
 
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ENTIRELY DISREGARD THE WILL OF THE VOTERS AND STEAL ELECTIONS.
This is what happens when a narcissist loses an election. May we never elect another.


I'm glad he is a narcissist - otherwise he would have conceded as Nixon did in 1960 in spite of the overwhelming amount of election fraud.
 
Rep. L.Gohmert is correct, as VP, Pence has total authority to refuse electors from battleground states...

And that's exactly what he will do come January 6th.

Thank you and well done Mr.VP! :2up:


Exactly.

the 12A grants him EXCLUSIVE AUTHORITY to Stop The Steal

Than can only be done if he refuses the EC Voters from jurisdictions wherein individuals voted more than once, from out of state and/or foreigners.
The 12th Amendment states that, "The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President."

In other words, the Constitution declares that all the vice president does is open the certificates so that the electoral votes can be formally counted.
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are absolutely out of your tiny little brain washed mind
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Lionel

Why are you still posting here?

Everything you've said about the law and the election has been wrong thus far!

lol
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

That's from an "anonymously sourced" article. "Negotiating" with Pence would have no legal effect at all. What that article suggested makes absolutely no sense. Only a declaratory judgment from a court would have legal force of law.
The article I read was from Politico and the source was Gohmert's attorneys.

In a motion to expedite proceedings, Gohmert and the electors revealed that their lawyers had reached out to Pence’s counsel in the Office of the Vice President to attempt to reach agreement before going to court.

“In the teleconference, Plaintiffs' counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President's counsel that Plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” according to Gohmert’s filing. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”



We have no idea why his attorneys chose that strategy.

But VP Pence is on record stating that he will fight until ONLY LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED.


.
He said "until every legal vote is counted." That's his clever way of not playin'. He will accept as legal the legal certified votes sent to him by the 50 states because no one has proven any of those votes were illegal.


As was done by the Demo Rats in 1960 , besides the EC Electors chosen by the Governors, slates of electors chosen by Republican-led state legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are being sent to DC.

VP Pence has the exclusive authority to decide which list he will accept.


.
12th Amendment says he needs to count the certified ones.


As shown hereinabove , the numerous constitutional law professors agree , that he has the exlusive authority to determine which of the certified EC elector lists he will accept.

.
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Winner of the stupidest member of Congress.
 
Pence says Gohmert's target shouldn't be aimed at him, since he's who Gohmert is trying to empower

the Dems must be enjoying this...for now but not for long...until their own party implodes after Biden disappoints The Squad
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

That's from an "anonymously sourced" article. "Negotiating" with Pence would have no legal effect at all. What that article suggested makes absolutely no sense. Only a declaratory judgment from a court would have legal force of law.
The article I read was from Politico and the source was Gohmert's attorneys.

In a motion to expedite proceedings, Gohmert and the electors revealed that their lawyers had reached out to Pence’s counsel in the Office of the Vice President to attempt to reach agreement before going to court.

“In the teleconference, Plaintiffs' counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President's counsel that Plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” according to Gohmert’s filing. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”



We have no idea why his attorneys chose that strategy.

But VP Pence is on record stating that he will fight until ONLY LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED.


.
He said "until every legal vote is counted." That's his clever way of not playin'. He will accept as legal the legal certified votes sent to him by the 50 states because no one has proven any of those votes were illegal.


As was done by the Demo Rats in 1960 , besides the EC Electors chosen by the Governors, slates of electors chosen by Republican-led state legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are being sent to DC.

VP Pence has the exclusive authority to decide which list he will accept.


.
12th Amendment says he needs to count the certified ones.


As shown hereinabove , the numerous constitutional law professors agree , that he has the exlusive authority to determine which of the certified EC elector lists he will accept.

.

Exactly right, we have already explained the legal aspect of this.....problem is....the Left knows thay have lost on Jan 6, and they don't want to admit it.....they don't want to accept the Constitution, which is on the side of the Patriots.

But that's their problem, not ours! ;):biggrin:
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

That's from an "anonymously sourced" article. "Negotiating" with Pence would have no legal effect at all. What that article suggested makes absolutely no sense. Only a declaratory judgment from a court would have legal force of law.
The article I read was from Politico and the source was Gohmert's attorneys.

In a motion to expedite proceedings, Gohmert and the electors revealed that their lawyers had reached out to Pence’s counsel in the Office of the Vice President to attempt to reach agreement before going to court.

“In the teleconference, Plaintiffs' counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President's counsel that Plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” according to Gohmert’s filing. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”



We have no idea why his attorneys chose that strategy.

But VP Pence is on record stating that he will fight until ONLY LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED.


.
He said "until every legal vote is counted." That's his clever way of not playin'. He will accept as legal the legal certified votes sent to him by the 50 states because no one has proven any of those votes were illegal.


As was done by the Demo Rats in 1960 , besides the EC Electors chosen by the Governors, slates of electors chosen by Republican-led state legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are being sent to DC.

VP Pence has the exclusive authority to decide which list he will accept.


.
12th Amendment says he needs to count the certified ones.


As shown hereinabove , the numerous constitutional law professors agree , that he has the exlusive authority to determine which of the certified EC elector lists he will accept.

.

Exactly right, we have already explained the legal aspect of this.....problem is....the Left knows thay have lost on Jan 6, and they don't want to admit it.....they don't want to accept the Constitution, which is on the side of the Patriots.

But that's their problem, not ours! ;):biggrin:


Exactly.

They claim to love transparency yet they reject McConnell's Senate Bill proposing :

The bill combines $2,000 payments with a repeal of Section 230 — a provision that grants sweeping legal protections to social media companies — and the establishment of a commission to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 election.
 
Rep. L.Gohmert is correct, as VP, Pence has total authority to refuse electors from battleground states...

And that's exactly what he will do come January 6th.

Thank you and well done Mr.VP! :2up:


Exactly.

the 12A grants him EXCLUSIVE AUTHORITY to Stop The Steal

Than can only be done if he refuses the EC Voters from jurisdictions wherein individuals voted more than once, from out of state and/or foreigners.
The 12th Amendment states that, "The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President."

In other words, the Constitution declares that all the vice president does is open the certificates so that the electoral votes can be formally counted.
I wish people would read the whole ammendment when citing from it. If they did, they would see that the 12th ammendment actually spells out that the right to vote for the people does not extend to presidential elections.

In the 12th ammendment, it says the legislature chooses the electors, and the electors cast votes, the person with the most votes (of electors) becomes president, the person with the next highest number becomes vp. It says nothing about the citizens being able to vote for president.

It also doesn't have any provision that allows the president to select his own vp.
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“It doesn’t matter that Gohmert has little chance of legal success. This is a deliberate attempt to expand the powers of the vice presidency into something it was never intended to be. And if it was Vice President-elect Kamala Harris rather than Pence in this position, Gohmert and every single other Republican supporting this lawsuit would be the first to raise hell.

But now, these very same congressmen, many of whom claim to defend and uphold the Constitution, are attempting to turn the federal government into their own personal banana republic. They will fail, but not before they risk bringing everyone else down with them — Trump included.”


That Gohmert and others on the right hate the Constitution comes as no surprise.
View attachment 435595
16j_l&pol699_2000.pdf (virginia.edu)
Yes, most conservatives are truly this stupid.
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As he talks treason and sedition...how droll!
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What are you going to do when Biden is sworn in on the 20th?
Continue to lie.
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy Christ! Earthshaking news that will obviously save Trump's ass from the embarrassment and deep depression of defeat!
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

That's from an "anonymously sourced" article. "Negotiating" with Pence would have no legal effect at all. What that article suggested makes absolutely no sense. Only a declaratory judgment from a court would have legal force of law.
The article I read was from Politico and the source was Gohmert's attorneys.

In a motion to expedite proceedings, Gohmert and the electors revealed that their lawyers had reached out to Pence’s counsel in the Office of the Vice President to attempt to reach agreement before going to court.

“In the teleconference, Plaintiffs' counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President's counsel that Plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” according to Gohmert’s filing. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”



We have no idea why his attorneys chose that strategy.

But VP Pence is on record stating that he will fight until ONLY LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED.


.
He said "until every legal vote is counted." That's his clever way of not playin'. He will accept as legal the legal certified votes sent to him by the 50 states because no one has proven any of those votes were illegal.


As was done by the Demo Rats in 1960 , besides the EC Electors chosen by the Governors, slates of electors chosen by Republican-led state legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are being sent to DC.

VP Pence has the exclusive authority to decide which list he will accept.


.
12th Amendment says he needs to count the certified ones.


As shown hereinabove , the numerous constitutional law professors agree , that he has the exlusive authority to determine which of the certified EC elector lists he will accept.

.
Have you not learned that anyone can hire a Greek Chorus to echo whatever opinion you wish? How is quoting them proof of anything? Pence rejected the idea out of hand..and rightfully so.
 
GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only.
"


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

That's from an "anonymously sourced" article. "Negotiating" with Pence would have no legal effect at all. What that article suggested makes absolutely no sense. Only a declaratory judgment from a court would have legal force of law.
The article I read was from Politico and the source was Gohmert's attorneys.

In a motion to expedite proceedings, Gohmert and the electors revealed that their lawyers had reached out to Pence’s counsel in the Office of the Vice President to attempt to reach agreement before going to court.

“In the teleconference, Plaintiffs' counsel made a meaningful attempt to resolve the underlying legal issues by agreement, including advising the Vice President's counsel that Plaintiffs intended to seek immediate injunctive relief in the event the parties did not agree,” according to Gohmert’s filing. “Those discussions were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”



We have no idea why his attorneys chose that strategy.

But VP Pence is on record stating that he will fight until ONLY LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED.


.
He said "until every legal vote is counted." That's his clever way of not playin'. He will accept as legal the legal certified votes sent to him by the 50 states because no one has proven any of those votes were illegal.


As was done by the Demo Rats in 1960 , besides the EC Electors chosen by the Governors, slates of electors chosen by Republican-led state legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are being sent to DC.

VP Pence has the exclusive authority to decide which list he will accept.


.
12th Amendment says he needs to count the certified ones.


As shown hereinabove , the numerous constitutional law professors agree , that he has the exlusive authority to determine which of the certified EC elector lists he will accept.

.
Have you not learned that anyone can hire a Greek Chorus to echo whatever opinion you wish? How is quoting them proof of anything? Pence rejected the idea out of hand..and rightfully so.


The Law Reviews were written before the November 3rd, 2020 election and they all identified the historical facts upon which they relied.


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