Rep. L. Gohmert (R-Texas) VP Pence has ***Exclusive Authority*** to refuse EC Electors from Battleground States

[Billiejeens]

GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only. "


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The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

So uninformed.

 

[OldLady]

GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only. "


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

So uninformed.

He has had his lawyers suggest this question should be dealt with by Congress, not a federal court. He wants the case dismissed.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Rep. L.Gohmert is correct, as VP, Pence has total authority to refuse electors from battleground states...

And that's exactly what he will do come January 6th.

Thank you and well done Mr.VP!

That is INSANE!

 

[Contumacious]

Pelosi Asks Court to Dismiss Effort to Clarify Vice President’s Power in Electoral Counting

The House of Representatives is asking a court to reject a petition from Republicans that requests judges to say Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to reject some electoral votes.

“This Court should reject plaintiffs’ effort to overturn Congress’s centuries-old role in counting electoral votes and resolving disputes about them in the constitutionally mandated Joint Session,” the House said in an amicus brief on Dec. 31.

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It is one thing for Republicans to voluntarily waive their 12A Rights

It is a different thing for Pelosi to ask the court to declare the 12A unconstitutional.



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[mdk]

Jan 6th is the day JFK Jr. walks into the capital and thanks Vice-President Pence for his service and declares President Trump the winner and names himself Vice-President.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Pelosi Asks Court to Dismiss Effort to Clarify Vice President’s Power in Electoral Counting

The House of Representatives is asking a court to reject a petition from Republicans that requests judges to say Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to reject some electoral votes.

“This Court should reject plaintiffs’ effort to overturn Congress’s centuries-old role in counting electoral votes and resolving disputes about them in the constitutionally mandated Joint Session,” the House said in an amicus brief on Dec. 31.

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It is one thing for Republicans to voluntarily waive their 12A Rights

It is a different thing for Pelosi to ask the court to declare the 12A unconstitutional.



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Did you miss the part where Pence himself stated that the suit against was inappropriate and that it should have been directed at congress

In addition:

Under the Twelfth Amendment, the Vice President opens the electoral certificates in his capacity as President of the Senate. However, the Act constrains the Vice President's role in the count.[2][6] Both houses can overrule the Vice President's decision to include or exclude votes and, under the Act, even if the chambers disagree, the governor's certification, not the Vice President, breaks the tie. On many occasions, the Vice President has had the duty of finalizing his party's — or his own — defeat. Richard Nixon, Dan Quayle, Al Gore, and Joe Biden all presided over the count that handed them, or their party, a loss.[11][12] Nixon graciously made a ruling allowing late-filed votes against him.[13] Gore rejected many challenges to the disputed votes from Florida.[14] In 1968, Hubert Humphrey recused himself from the count.[15]

Source: Electoral Count Act - Wikipedia

So what exactly is the problem with Pelosi? And where in the 12th Amendment does it say that the VP has the dicression to toss out the electors?

 

[Contumacious]

Pelosi Asks Court to Dismiss Effort to Clarify Vice President’s Power in Electoral Counting

The House of Representatives is asking a court to reject a petition from Republicans that requests judges to say Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to reject some electoral votes.

“This Court should reject plaintiffs’ effort to overturn Congress’s centuries-old role in counting electoral votes and resolving disputes about them in the constitutionally mandated Joint Session,” the House said in an amicus brief on Dec. 31.

______________------------------------______________________

It is one thing for Republicans to voluntarily waive their 12A Rights

It is a different thing for Pelosi to ask the court to declare the 12A unconstitutional.



.


.

Did you miss the part where Pence himself stated that the suit against was inappropriate and that it should have been directed at congress

In addition:

Under the Twelfth Amendment, the Vice President opens the electoral certificates in his capacity as President of the Senate. However, the Act constrains the Vice President's role in the count.[2][6] Both houses can overrule the Vice President's decision to include or exclude votes and, under the Act, even if the chambers disagree, the governor's certification, not the Vice President, breaks the tie. On many occasions, the Vice President has had the duty of finalizing his party's — or his own — defeat. Richard Nixon, Dan Quayle, Al Gore, and Joe Biden all presided over the count that handed them, or their party, a loss.[11][12] Nixon graciously made a ruling allowing late-filed votes against him.[13] Gore rejected many challenges to the disputed votes from Florida.[14] In 1968, Hubert Humphrey recused himself from the count.[15]

Source: Electoral Count Act - Wikipedia

So what exactly is the problem with Pelosi? And where in the 12th Amendment does it say that the VP has the dicression to toss out the electors?

I agree with VP Pence that he is not the proper defendant.

Actually I disagree with the lawsuit in its entirety because VP Pence has the authority , period.

As shown hereinabove , the 12A authorizes the VP to choose between competing or dueling slates of EC electors

 

[Billiejeens]

Pelosi Asks Court to Dismiss Effort to Clarify Vice President’s Power in Electoral Counting

The House of Representatives is asking a court to reject a petition from Republicans that requests judges to say Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to reject some electoral votes.

“This Court should reject plaintiffs’ effort to overturn Congress’s centuries-old role in counting electoral votes and resolving disputes about them in the constitutionally mandated Joint Session,” the House said in an amicus brief on Dec. 31.

______________------------------------______________________

It is one thing for Republicans to voluntarily waive their 12A Rights

It is a different thing for Pelosi to ask the court to declare the 12A unconstitutional.



.


.

Did you miss the part where Pence himself stated that the suit against was inappropriate and that it should have been directed at congress

In addition:

Under the Twelfth Amendment, the Vice President opens the electoral certificates in his capacity as President of the Senate. However, the Act constrains the Vice President's role in the count.[2][6] Both houses can overrule the Vice President's decision to include or exclude votes and, under the Act, even if the chambers disagree, the governor's certification, not the Vice President, breaks the tie. On many occasions, the Vice President has had the duty of finalizing his party's — or his own — defeat. Richard Nixon, Dan Quayle, Al Gore, and Joe Biden all presided over the count that handed them, or their party, a loss.[11][12] Nixon graciously made a ruling allowing late-filed votes against him.[13] Gore rejected many challenges to the disputed votes from Florida.[14] In 1968, Hubert Humphrey recused himself from the count.[15]

Source: Electoral Count Act - Wikipedia

So what exactly is the problem with Pelosi? And where in the 12th Amendment does it say that the VP has the dicression to toss out the electors?

I agree with VP Pence that he is not the proper defendant.

Actually I disagree with the lawsuit in its entirety because VP Pence has the authority , period.

As shown hereinabove , the 12A authorizes the VP to choose between competing or dueling slates of EC electors

Agreed
The lawsuit is overkill.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Pelosi Asks Court to Dismiss Effort to Clarify Vice President’s Power in Electoral Counting

The House of Representatives is asking a court to reject a petition from Republicans that requests judges to say Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to reject some electoral votes.

“This Court should reject plaintiffs’ effort to overturn Congress’s centuries-old role in counting electoral votes and resolving disputes about them in the constitutionally mandated Joint Session,” the House said in an amicus brief on Dec. 31.

______________------------------------______________________

It is one thing for Republicans to voluntarily waive their 12A Rights

It is a different thing for Pelosi to ask the court to declare the 12A unconstitutional.



.


.

Did you miss the part where Pence himself stated that the suit against was inappropriate and that it should have been directed at congress

In addition:

Under the Twelfth Amendment, the Vice President opens the electoral certificates in his capacity as President of the Senate. However, the Act constrains the Vice President's role in the count.[2][6] Both houses can overrule the Vice President's decision to include or exclude votes and, under the Act, even if the chambers disagree, the governor's certification, not the Vice President, breaks the tie. On many occasions, the Vice President has had the duty of finalizing his party's — or his own — defeat. Richard Nixon, Dan Quayle, Al Gore, and Joe Biden all presided over the count that handed them, or their party, a loss.[11][12] Nixon graciously made a ruling allowing late-filed votes against him.[13] Gore rejected many challenges to the disputed votes from Florida.[14] In 1968, Hubert Humphrey recused himself from the count.[15]

Source: Electoral Count Act - Wikipedia

So what exactly is the problem with Pelosi? And where in the 12th Amendment does it say that the VP has the dicression to toss out the electors?

I agree with VP Pence that he is not the proper defendant.

Actually I disagree with the lawsuit in its entirety because VP Pence has the authority , period.

As shown hereinabove , the 12A authorizes the VP to choose between competing or dueling slates of EC electors

Bullshit, I posted this before but maybe you mossed it. \\

Under the Twelfth Amendment, the Vice President opens the electoral certificates in his capacity as President of the Senate. However, the Act constrains the Vice President's role in the count.[2][6] Both houses can overrule the Vice President's decision to include or exclude votes and, under the Act, even if the chambers disagree, the governor's certification, not the Vice President, breaks the tie. On many occasions, the Vice President has had the duty of finalizing his party's — or his own — defeat. Richard Nixon, Dan Quayle, Al Gore, and Joe Biden all presided over the count that handed them, or their party, a loss.[11][12] Nixon graciously made a ruling allowing late-filed votes against him.[13] Gore rejected many challenges to the disputed votes from Florida.[14] In 1968, Hubert Humphrey recused himself from the count.[15]

 

[Christ_on_a_croissant]

The disappointment here is going to be legendary.

Gruesome for some after that

Are you going to end it all after this clown coup fails again and finally?

 

[Billiejeens]

The disappointment here is going to be legendary.

Gruesome for some after that

Are you going to end it all after this clown coup fails again and finally?

The clown coup has been failing for 4 years.

 

[skye]

Rep. L.Gohmert is correct, as VP, Pence has total authority to refuse electors from battleground states...

And that's exactly what he will do come January 6th.

Thank you and well done Mr.VP!

That is why Vice Presidents always get to pick who the next President is

Who needs voters??

Don't be ridiculous, please.

If some states, like Pennsylvania for example, failed to follow their own election laws, it's the duty and obligation of the VP to refuse electors from that state.

That's what the Constitution says....if some don't like it, it's too bad.

Tell me where in the Constitution that it says the VP can refuse electors.

I don't have to tell you anything, if you don't know that already, that's your problem.

You can't tell me anything because you're full of shit or a shitty troll.

no more full of shit than you!

BTW... happy new year.

 

[Contumacious]

Rep. Louie Gohmert has filed a new document in the lawsuit brought on by him and other Republicans to stop the Democrats from stealing the 2020 election.

The new filing argues that Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to count Republican electors in contested states, or ignore the electors from those states all together.

 

[XponentialChaos]

So...hypothetically speaking, if this little maneuver doesn’t work, does that mean that Pence is in on the coup as well?

 

[Aletheia4u]

Jan 6th is the day JFK Jr. walks into the capital and thanks Vice-President Pence for his service and declares President Trump the winner and names himself Vice-President.

 

[pyetro]

GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only. "


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This thread had an embarrassing ending:

 

[Contumacious]

No, he doesn’t. Let’s be generously delusional and say he does: What would stop Vice-President Pence from just declaring himself president? Nothing.

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only. "



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[Dragonlady]

GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only. "


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pence has already refused to play. They tried negotiating with him prior to filing the suit. He refused.

So uninformed.

Yes you are. The suit has already been tossed out. As we knew it would be.

Trump lost.

 

[OldLady]

No, he doesn’t. Let’s be generously delusional and say he does: What would stop Vice-President Pence from just declaring himself president? Nothing.

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only. "



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13 page decision outlining all your arguments and explaining why they're full of shit. You should read it.

 

[dudmuck]

GOP Lawmaker Sues Pence to Give Him ‘Exclusive Authority’ to Stop the Steal

Several Constitutional Law Professors concur:

Preparing for a dispute election, 51 Loyola University Chicago Law Journal 309, 325 (2019 )


"the “President of the Senate” has the exclusive constitutional authority to determine which “certificates” to
“open” and thus which electoral votes “to be counted.” This interpretation can derive support from the observation that the President of the Senate is the only officer, or instrumentality, of government given an active role
in the process of opening the certificates and counting the electoral votes from the states. The Senate and House of Representatives, on this view, have an observational role only. "


______________--------------------_______________________

The treasonous/seditious Demo Rats must be taught a lesson they will never - ever - forget !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This thread had an embarrassing ending:

"Just wait until the Kraken lawsuit"

"Just wait until the electors vote"

"Just wait until Gohmert's lawsuit hits"

"Just wait until January 6th"

And on January 7th, the goalposts will be moved once again so rubes can keep scrawling donation checks.