Repealing the ACA would increase federal budget deficits by $137 billion over the 2016–2025 period

[CrusaderFrank]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Before you make a fool of yourself, click the damn link and read the report.

Fake news

 

[Rambunctious]

Replace? There is no replacement. Republicans will nudge around the edges but they they have no answer to the fundamental problem of medical expenses being unafordable on modest income.

Now you are a soothsayer? do you have next weeks lotto numbers too?

 

[AntonToo]

How does someone that works a low paying job afford insurance?

Pass on the big screen TV and the nightly 12 pack...

Insurance cannot help those that drink 12 pack a night. Your solution is some sort of a joke I think.

 

[AntonToo]

Replace? There is no replacement. Republicans will nudge around the edges but they they have no answer to the fundamental problem of medical expenses being unafordable on modest income.

Now you are a soothsayer? do you have next weeks lotto numbers too?

Soothsayer? You don't need to be a soothsayer to see this a mile away, just pay attention once in a while.

 

[AntonToo]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Before you make a fool of yourself, click the damn link and read the report.

Fake news

Real stupid

 

[Rambunctious]

Soothsayer? You don't need to be a soothsayer, just pay attention once in a while.

You are predicting the actions of people you don't even know.

 

[Kosh]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Before you make a fool of yourself, click the damn link and read the report.

It assumes that people will not have access to insurance. It also assumes that things will go back to the way they were. It will not go back to the way it was if Obamacare gets repealed!

Only far left religious dogma claims otherwise!

 

[EverCurious]

From source:

An end to the ACA’s subsidies for health insurance
coverage would generate gross savings for the
government of $1,658 billion over the 2016–2025
period, CBO and JCT estimate. Those savings would
stem primarily from eliminating federal subsidies for
insurance purchased through exchanges and from
reducing outlays for Medicaid.

Those gross savings would be partially offset by the
effects of eliminating several ACA provisions related to
insurance coverage that are projected to reduce federal
deficits—including the provisions that impose
penalties on some employers and uninsured people
and that impose an excise tax on certain high-
premium insurance plans. In addition, increases in
employment-based coverage stemming from a repeal
would reduce revenues because most payments for that
coverage are exempt from income and payroll taxes. In
sum, those effects of repealing the ACA would increase
federal deficits by $502 billion over the 2016–2025
period, CBO and JCT estimate, and the net savings
from repealing the ACA’s coverage provisions would
thus be $1,156 billion.

 

[Kosh]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Before you make a fool of yourself, click the damn link and read the report.

Fake news

Real stupid

Yes you far left drones are!

 

[BlueGin]

Of course the left loons always forget to mention that the folks that actually sign up don't even meet federal estimates. And the folks that sign up and never pay premiums are completely ignored.

Costs, changes led Obamacare enrollment to fall short of earlier estimates

 

[AntonToo]

Soothsayer? You don't need to be a soothsayer, just pay attention once in a while.

You are predicting the actions of people you don't even know.

There is currently no proposal by Republicans that would prevent uninsured rates relapsing from current 10-11% back to around 17-18% it was before Obamacare.

They've been trying to put together SOMETHING for a while now and the proposals they do have on the table add up to little beyond throwing another tax-cut at a problem. But low income people ALREADY pay almost no federal income taxes.

There is selling across state lines...which in no way addresses the fundamental issue of medical costs, it just undercuts all insurance standards to a state willing to not regulate them so companies can sell junk on the cheap.

Then there is tort reform which did nothing to curb medical costs in states it was implemented (and oh by the way left victims of malpractice with little recourse for the damages they suffered)

 

[AntonToo]

Of course the left loons always forget to mention that the folks that actually sign up don't even meet federal estimates. And the folks that sign up and never pay premiums are completely ignored.

Costs, changes led Obamacare enrollment to fall short of earlier estimates

Bullshit point. Uninsured rates are still way way down from what they were before Obamacare.

 

[Rambunctious]

Soothsayer? You don't need to be a soothsayer, just pay attention once in a while.

You are predicting the actions of people you don't even know.

There is currently no proposal by Republicans that would result in uninsured rates relapsing from current 10-11% back to around 17-18% it was before Obamacare.

They've been trying to put together SOMETHING for a while now and the proposals they do have on the table add up to little beyond throwing another tax-cut at a problem. But low income people ALREADY pay almost no federal income taxes.

There is selling across state lines...which in no way addresses the fundamental issue of medical costs, it just undercuts all insurance standards to a state willing to not regulate them so companies can sell junk on the cheap.

Then there is tort reform which did nothing to curb medical costs in states it was implemented (and oh by the way left victims of malpractice with little recourse for the damages they suffered)

You're talking out of your ass, the GOP have several plans just waiting for a friendly White House. You are making shit up, speculation at best.

 

[AntonToo]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Before you make a fool of yourself, click the damn link and read the report.

It assumes that people will not have access to insurance. It also assumes that things will go back to the way they were. It will not go back to the way it was if Obamacare gets repealed!

Only far left religious dogma claims otherwise!

WHY WOULD IT NOT?

How will Republicans stop it? Magic?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Before you make a fool of yourself, click the damn link and read the report.

What's more important....

An illusionary budget in DC or the one that gets broken individually by the skyrocketing costs Obamacare imposes on the majority of individual families?

 

[AntonToo]

Soothsayer? You don't need to be a soothsayer, just pay attention once in a while.

You are predicting the actions of people you don't even know.

There is currently no proposal by Republicans that would result in uninsured rates relapsing from current 10-11% back to around 17-18% it was before Obamacare.

They've been trying to put together SOMETHING for a while now and the proposals they do have on the table add up to little beyond throwing another tax-cut at a problem. But low income people ALREADY pay almost no federal income taxes.

There is selling across state lines...which in no way addresses the fundamental issue of medical costs, it just undercuts all insurance standards to a state willing to not regulate them so companies can sell junk on the cheap.

Then there is tort reform which did nothing to curb medical costs in states it was implemented (and oh by the way left victims of malpractice with little recourse for the damages they suffered)

You're talking out of your ass, the GOP have several plans just waiting for a friendly White House. You are making shit up, speculation at best.

I have read up on them - it's red meat puffery and it takes magical thinking to imagine that it is a realistic solution to the void repealing Obamacare would create.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Does anyone believe this? I mean seriously! If we are going to debate something, it will take at least 2 USMB to deflect this crapola. Come on lefties, the least you could do is be real!

Naw, I believe it. Of course they would cut the taxes once the law is repealed. However, folks that have gotten used to the medicaid expansion would immediately file civil liberties and civil rights suits, and thus, those benefits would not be cut immediately.

Tax cuts with no corresponding benefit cuts? Hence, a budget deficit.

Because of the cuts in Medicare payments to doctors, Obamacare actually reduced budget deficits. You can be sure that part of O-care will stay in place.

Because of the cuts in payments to doctors, the doctors have refused medicare patients. Thst money will have to be restored.

 

[WillReadmore]

Soothsayer? You don't need to be a soothsayer, just pay attention once in a while.

You are predicting the actions of people you don't even know.

There is currently no proposal by Republicans that would result in uninsured rates relapsing from current 10-11% back to around 17-18% it was before Obamacare.

They've been trying to put together SOMETHING for a while now and the proposals they do have on the table add up to little beyond throwing another tax-cut at a problem. But low income people ALREADY pay almost no federal income taxes.

There is selling across state lines...which in no way addresses the fundamental issue of medical costs, it just undercuts all insurance standards to a state willing to not regulate them so companies can sell junk on the cheap.

Then there is tort reform which did nothing to curb medical costs in states it was implemented (and oh by the way left victims of malpractice with little recourse for the damages they suffered)

You're talking out of your ass, the GOP have several plans just waiting for a friendly White House. You are making shit up, speculation at best.

No, there are objectives documents, but there is nothing that could be considered a plan.

If you think there is, please cite.

 

[Kosh]

Soothsayer? You don't need to be a soothsayer, just pay attention once in a while.

You are predicting the actions of people you don't even know.

There is currently no proposal by Republicans that would result in uninsured rates relapsing from current 10-11% back to around 17-18% it was before Obamacare.

They've been trying to put together SOMETHING for a while now and the proposals they do have on the table add up to little beyond throwing another tax-cut at a problem. But low income people ALREADY pay almost no federal income taxes.

There is selling across state lines...which in no way addresses the fundamental issue of medical costs, it just undercuts all insurance standards to a state willing to not regulate them so companies can sell junk on the cheap.

Then there is tort reform which did nothing to curb medical costs in states it was implemented (and oh by the way left victims of malpractice with little recourse for the damages they suffered)

You're talking out of your ass, the GOP have several plans just waiting for a friendly White House. You are making shit up, speculation at best.

I have read up on them - it's red meat puffery and it takes magical thinking to imagine that it is a realistic solution to the void repealing Obamacare would create.

No you are repeating far left religious dogma!

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/GOPHealthPlan_061709.pdf

 

[WillowTree]

The claim in the title is from the Congressional Budget Office.

Before you make a fool of yourself, click the damn link and read the report.

And 30 million less people will be covered. How does this make sense to anyone?

Single payer is the only real solution.

Single payer =100% taxpayers. No freebies. You agree?