Republican Tax Cut Experiment Ends w/Largest Tax Increase In State’s History

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It's a cookie cutter plan for America. The average Republican is too stupid to know their leaders are reducing the workers in America into a new serf class

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Republicans have done the same thing in Michigan.

And Detroit too, right, slick? The problem is lefties and their big business buddies are killing American jobs. Big business can afford the mountains of paperwork and regulations, small businesses are struggling. The liberal answer is more regulation, even higher taxes and bigger government and hating "Republicans" is about all you have for support.

Towards the end of his first year in office, Michigan Governor Rick Snyder suggested the changes he and the Republican-led legislature had made were necessary for the good of the state, but that these changes also represented "shared sacrifice." Bear in mind, what that meant was a nearly $2 billion tax cut for corporations and a tax increase of $2 billion for around 50 percent of Michigan residents, with the bulk of the sacrifice coming from the working poor and senior citizens.

Among the lies politicians tell their constituents, the "shared sacrifice" rhetoric is one of the most insulting. What they are really saying is that they are going to raise taxes on those who can least afford it in order to give tax cuts to the wealthiest taxpayers.

While giving Michigan's working poor a tax credit does mean a slightly graduated tax rate, income is hardly the only tax that Michigan residents pay. The reality is that when you take in to account the total tax burden, the top 20 percent of Michiganders pay less in taxes than anyone else. In fact, in Michigan the people that earn over $392,000 in taxable income only pay 5.1 percent of their income in taxes while the tax rate for those making between $17,000 and $34,000 per year is nearly twice as much, at 9.4 percent.


Yeah, I see "Democrat" written all over this...smh.

 

[Socialist]

It's no use man, as long as rich people have lower taxes, it'll just trickle back down and help people! Look at kan.. OH SHIT, RUN GUYS, PSUEDO BULLSHIT, CRAP, RUN, OH SHIT, OH NO, REAGAN, PLZ, NUUUU. But seriously, what is wrong with the GOP?

The rich pay most of the taxes. Try getting some air, take a walk or something.

Who owns the majority of taxable wealth/etc? Common sense buddy. Oh, compare taxation of the rich to what it was in the past and tell me there haven't been cuts.

 

[percysunshine]

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KANSAS BUDGET Senate passes tax increase House approved goes to governor for signature - KSHB.com

Food taxes, farm taxes, and business taxes are unchanged. Other consumption taxes and 'sin' taxes go up.

Seems reasonable. It is a good thing States can't print money to balance their budgets. We all know where that would lead.

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Not exactly! The sales tax on food in Kansas will rise .04% while simultaneously eliminating the sales tax rebate on food. IOW's , Kansas will make up a portion of their shortfall on the backs of people that eat food then-----then after they get their financial house in order i.e. one year from July 1, they will lower the sales tax on food, but NOT restore the sales tax rebate on food.
Home to Koch Industries is in Kansas, much of Koch Industries is pass-thru - LLC. LLC's are not affected by the biggest tax increase in Kansas state history - IOWs, Kansas' Republicans are screwing Kansas' most vulnerable to pleasure the people that won't miss a meal or mortgage payment due to a tax increase that would solve Kansas' revenue shortfall pain free for all but a few.

Excerpt from OP article: The bill protects the zero income tax rate for many owners of limited-liability companies, corporate farms and large corporations. However, it eliminates sales tax rebates on food for poor families, the elderly and people with disabilities.

The general sales tax would rise from 6.15 percent to 6.55 percent on July 1. A year later, the tax on food would drop to 4.95 percent.

“It’s the lowest rate (on food) we’ve looked at all session,” Donovan said.

The food sales tax rebate for poor families, the elderly and people with disabilities would be eliminated.
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Its part of modern conservativism that the poor aren't suffering enough. That their comfort and convenience in poverty is 'slavery' and only if they are made to hurt more will they be motivated to move out of poverty and into productive living.

So of course consevatives are going to make a policy that hurts the poor. They want them to hurt. They want them hungry. They want them desperate.

Its unsurprisingly also a tenet in many modern incarnations of 'Christian values'. As the desperate are more like to turn to religion. Especially if the religious have food and you have to accept their teachings if you want to eat.

It was Jesus who said after all:

"And verily I say unto thee, fuck the poor. For woe be unto the leeches who suffer a diminishment of spirit. Only through the efficacy of pain shall they be cleansed. And blessed are the wealthy for they shall inherent the earth. "

Its part of modern conservativism that the poor aren't suffering enough?

Only in that tiny corner of the modern progressive moonbat universe which does not get out very much..

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[Stephanie]

the left/libs only care about the poor: when can they use them for their political bludgeoning people over the head. to whine they can't cut one red cent of OUR MONIES and call our tax cuts: an Experiment . so they need to tax tax taX US MORE.

and for sure as long as they can force everyone else to pay for their PET projects such as the "poor" the "children" their "abortions" , etc they crow about how they CARE SO MUCH MORE

 

[Derideo_Te]

the left/libs only care about the poor: when can they use them for their political bludgeoning people over the head. to whine they can't cut one red cent of OUR MONIES and call our tax cuts: an Experiment . so they need to tax tax taX US MORE.

and for sure as long as they can force everyone else to pay for their PET projects such as the "poor" the "children" their "abortions" , etc they crow about how they CARE SO MUCH MORE

I guess the lunch lady must have been taking an extended smoke break on the thousands of times it has been posted that the government doesn't pay for any abortions with our tax dollars.

 

[Iceweasel]

Who owns the majority of taxable wealth/etc? Common sense buddy. Oh, compare taxation of the rich to what it was in the past and tell me there haven't been cuts.

Uhmmmm, the rich have more money than the poor. Thanks for clearing that up. Compare what, the extremely high capital gains tax that they didn't pay? Closing loopholes and lowering the rates brought in more money. You stupid fucks think you can strangle money and get more of it.

 

[Stephanie]

Who owns the majority of taxable wealth/etc? Common sense buddy. Oh, compare taxation of the rich to what it was in the past and tell me there haven't been cuts.

Uhmmmm, the rich have more money than the poor. Thanks for clearing that up. Compare what, the extremely high capital gains tax that they didn't pay? Closing loopholes and lowering the rates brought in more money. You stupid fucks think you can strangle money and get more of it.

they are just freaking lazy to go make their own. so they believe they are ENTITLED TO WHAT OTHERS have and have worked for their families to have.

it's a damn sickness. and Hillary and Sanders are both spouting off Socialism which leads to Fascism/communism

 

[Nyvin]

Who owns the majority of taxable wealth/etc? Common sense buddy. Oh, compare taxation of the rich to what it was in the past and tell me there haven't been cuts.

Uhmmmm, the rich have more money than the poor. Thanks for clearing that up. Compare what, the extremely high capital gains tax that they didn't pay? Closing loopholes and lowering the rates brought in more money. You stupid fucks think you can strangle money and get more of it.

they are just freaking lazy to go make their own. so they believe they are ENTITLED TO WHAT OTHERS have and have worked for their families to have.

it's a damn sickness. and Hillary and Sanders are both spouting off Socialism which leads to Fascism/communism

Fascism and Communism are polar opposites ideologically.

 

[Stephanie]

Who owns the majority of taxable wealth/etc? Common sense buddy. Oh, compare taxation of the rich to what it was in the past and tell me there haven't been cuts.

Uhmmmm, the rich have more money than the poor. Thanks for clearing that up. Compare what, the extremely high capital gains tax that they didn't pay? Closing loopholes and lowering the rates brought in more money. You stupid fucks think you can strangle money and get more of it.

they are just freaking lazy to go make their own. so they believe they are ENTITLED TO WHAT OTHERS have and have worked for their families to have.

it's a damn sickness. and Hillary and Sanders are both spouting off Socialism which leads to Fascism/communism

Fascism and Communism are polar opposites ideologically.

good, argue with yourself about it

 

[Mustang]

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Republican Tax Cut Experiment Ends w/Largest Tax Increase In State’s History. The Republican led state kept the tax cuts they gave away to the high incomers and passed the revenue shortfall on to the most vulnerable - IOW's Kansas' middle class and poor just lost a big chunk of what's left of their discretionary spending.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/08/republican-controlled-kansas-senate-passes-largest-tax-increase-states-history.html

Republican Controlled Kansas Senate Passes Largest Tax Increase In State’s History

Keith Brekhus
Monday, June, 8th, 2015

On Sunday evening, the Republican-controlled Kansas Senate passed a 471 million dollar tax increase. If the measure passes the Kansas House on Monday and is then signed into law by Governor Sam Brownback, it will become the largest tax increase in Kansas’ history.

Senate support for the tax increase is a clear sign that the Brownback tax cuts that were supposed to stimulate the economy, have failed so miserably, that even Tea Party Republicans have resigned themselves to supporting a massive tax increase. However, the Senate did not opt to restore higher income tax rates for the wealthy, but instead they decided to fill the state’s gaping budget hole by raising regressive taxes which pass the burden onto the poor.

The Senate bill, which passed on a close 21-17 vote, would raise the state sales tax from 6.15 percent to 6.55 percent. The cigarette tax would jump from .79 cents a pack to a 1.29 a pack. The measure would also lower deductions for property taxes, charitable contributions and home mortgage interest.

The bill protects the zero income tax rate for many owners of limited-liability companies, corporate farms and large corporations. However, it eliminates sales tax rebates on food for poor families, the elderly and people with disabilities.

So while Senate Republicans have finally come to grips with the failure of the Brownback tax cuts, their solution is not to make billionaires like Charles Koch, who still claims residency in Wichita, pay a higher tax rate. Instead they have decided to tackle the state’s budget crisis by raising the price of food for the poor, disabled and elderly.

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If the Senate bill becomes law, low and middle-income Republican voters in Kansas will become the proud owners of an “anti-tax Governor and anti-tax legislature” that passed the largest tax increase in the state’s history. To add insult to injury, they will also have the dubious honor of paying for that tax increase so that the state’s aristocracy can keep their precious tax cuts. If not for the fact that some of those people will endure real suffering, the whole charade would be almost comical.
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Well, in essence, it's not really a tax increase. It's a tax burden shift from the affluent who pay to play and the poor who don't have the financial wherewithal (and hence, the political clout) to influence the legislative process. That means that the bottom line IS the bottom line.

 

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When rw supply side are put into to practice, this is what happens

 

[Dot Com]

At this rate Kansas will become a glaring example to the rest of the nation of what it means to adopt the failed Libertarian dogma of the Koch bros.

True.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Early Results Show Income Tax Cuts Making Kansas A More Prosperous State - Forbes
Early Results Show Income Tax Cuts Making Kansas A More Prosperous State


This week, Investor’s Business Daily (IBD) ran an editorial declaring that the tax cut Kansas Governor Sam Brownback and the state legislature passed in 2012 “is working.” Newly released data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics show that Kansas and Utah are tied for first when it comes to state job growth estimates.

Here are the highlights from the report:

• For the first two months of the year, Kansas increased its non-farm jobs by 9,500 and the private sector added 9,000 jobs for March.
• In a state-to-state comparison, Kansas placed 2nd in private-sector jobs growth in February.
• Private-sector jobs from February 2014 to February 2015 grew by 21,200 — one of the most significant increases in the country.
• Kansas surpassed all neighboring states except Colorado in private job gains over the year.

• In private-sector hourly wages, Kansas beat all neighboring states except Nebraska.
• Private-sector hourly wage estimates for January were revised upward, showing that Kansas gained 3.4% rather than 3.2% in hourly pay.
• In month of February, Kansas hit a new record in hourly wage gains of 61 cents an hour.
• Kansans are making an average of $25.52 more each week, while only having to work an average of 12 minutes longer.”
• Compared to February last year, Kansas City, Kansas’s private sector average hourly wages were higher than in Kansas City, Missouri by 55 cents.
• Unrelated to February data, Kansas has one of the highest employment-to-population ratios in the U.S., at 65.2%.

So if those "estimates" are right then why was the legislature forced to raise taxes?

Any improvement in employment cannot be shown to be a direct result of gutting the revenue structure of the state rather than just a result of the generally improving economy of the nation. The only results that can be directly tied to the tax cuts are underfunded state agencies, credit downgrades and budget deficits.

You're an idiot if you really believe tax breaks don't spur business. When state budgets are cut, state spending needs to be cut. Sounds like they had trouble weening some dependents off of the state nipple.

Yeah. who needs an education anyway? Seriously. Is it not even a possiblilty that they cut revenue too deeply to even support an education for their young citizens? Not to mention they screwed their credit rating so they cannot even have bond issues to help pay for infrastructure improvements. This shit is only going to get worse as time goes on. Next spring when they cannot even afford to patch the winter potholes maybe some of them will wise up.

At this rate Kansas will become a glaring example to the rest of the nation of what it means to adopt the failed Libertarian dogma of the Koch bros.

I guess we can compare it to the blaring success of obama....what has been Kansas unemployment rate when compared to the rest of the nation?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

When rw supply side are put into to practice, this is what happens

5.5 % unemployment rocks....

 

[Stephanie]

So if those "estimates" are right then why was the legislature forced to raise taxes?

Any improvement in employment cannot be shown to be a direct result of gutting the revenue structure of the state rather than just a result of the generally improving economy of the nation. The only results that can be directly tied to the tax cuts are underfunded state agencies, credit downgrades and budget deficits.

You're an idiot if you really believe tax breaks don't spur business. When state budgets are cut, state spending needs to be cut. Sounds like they had trouble weening some dependents off of the state nipple.

Yeah. who needs an education anyway? Seriously. Is it not even a possiblilty that they cut revenue too deeply to even support an education for their young citizens? Not to mention they screwed their credit rating so they cannot even have bond issues to help pay for infrastructure improvements. This shit is only going to get worse as time goes on. Next spring when they cannot even afford to patch the winter potholes maybe some of them will wise up.

At this rate Kansas will become a glaring example to the rest of the nation of what it means to adopt the failed Libertarian dogma of the Koch bros.

I guess we can compare it to the blaring success of obama....what has been Kansas unemployment rate when compared to the rest of the nation?

they don't care. all they need is their leftwing site to show them how to march. and say how tax cuts for WE the people is an Experiment

 

[Dot Com]

I bet Steph takes the EITC unless she's in a union.