Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

[sealybobo]

So ignorant...incredible.

Yes you are, the facts are there and you like a good little puppy believe what you are told not what is really going on.

So you actually believe unions are voting 80% democratic? Lol! What a dupe.

That's why they're losing all their benefits. No one said they were smart people. Yes a lot of union people didn't believe trump would hurt them. They believed him like people who signed up for trump university

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Just because I'm not in a union doesn't mean I don't support them. If it weren't for people like me unions would be gone because for the last 20 years people like you have said they have outlived their usefulness. That means the GOP were successful in slandering unions as they sent their jobs overseas.

I remember they attacked unions in 2007 as their jobs went overseas.

I don't know how to argue with you anymore. Who are you? Are you a trump supporter, Bernie supporter? Are you liberal or conservative?

You know what? I don't support unions. Fuck them. I don't get a pension so why should they? And they raise the cost of things because of their high pay. And they didn't go to college so why should they be paid so handsomely? And I especially don't support them because too many of them vote GOP. They need to be fucked in the ass. If it weren't for unions Rick Snyder wouldn't have won re election in Michigan or even his first term he wouldn't have won. So those unions deserve what's coming to them. In fact you all deserve what's coming to you for being so fucking stupid.

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

No shit he flip flopped on you ya stupid idiots!

With Democrats and labor leaders vowing retribution at the ballot box and beyond, the Republican-dominated Michigan Legislature on Tuesday approved sweeping, statewide changes to the way unions will be financed, substantially reducing their power in a state that has long been a symbol of union might and an incubator for the American labor movement.

As thousands of incensed union members filled the Capitol rotunda and poured out onto its lawn chanting “shame, shame,” labor leaders and Democrats said they would immediately mount an intense, unceasing campaign to regain control of the Legislature and the governor’s office by 2015.

And yet Snyder and Republicans still rule Michigan. Who do I blame? The citizens of Michigan. I don't blame Republicans or Rick Snyder. The people did this to themselves.

First show me where I claimed unions have out lived their usefulness. I am an independent, you just don't like those that think for themselves. I don't care what Michigan does or who they elect.

Had most any other GOP had won the nomination, they would have gotten my vote. Not sure why you think supporting Sanders was bad, he was better than trump and Clinton.

Falling back on Trump is what makes you stupid.

 

[task0778]

A. Not by much it didn't. When you have almost 8 years and your average GDP growth is les than 2%, that ain't good enough.
B. You think he's great? Okay, but there's a lot ofother people that would disagree.
C. 1% growth just from infrastructure spending is a pipe dream. It's better than nothing and we do need it, but you're greatly over estimating the impact it would have on an economy this big. You're the one being unrealistic.
D. There is no way in hell the gov't can provide free college and free universal healthcare without totally busting the budget. IMHO we'd be insolvent in less than 10 years.

 

[Markle]

Obama already got his stimulus spending, $862 billion and it didn't stimulate anything.

WE GOT SOMETHING! We got a totally useless TURTLE TUNNEL! I'm not making this up. We have a large lake North of town which has a smaller part on the opposite side of 4 lane US 27 North. For years a single student had raised the issue of the turtles being killed walking from one lake to the smaller one and back.

The issue had been solved by volunteers maintaining fabric, ecology fences about a foot high. Problem solved, and it is free but the student continued on working.

The result was we got a $3.2 MILLION TURTLE TUNNEL!

Ironically, where these turtles are now funneled together, along with other animals, is a favorite hangout for many alligators lining up as if at the drive through at a McDonalds.

I guess the student is happy, the turtles are meeting with a NATURAL death instead of being run over.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yes you are, the facts are there and you like a good little puppy believe what you are told not what is really going on.

So you actually believe unions are voting 80% democratic? Lol! What a dupe.

That's why they're losing all their benefits. No one said they were smart people. Yes a lot of union people didn't believe trump would hurt them. They believed him like people who signed up for trump university

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Just because I'm not in a union doesn't mean I don't support them. If it weren't for people like me unions would be gone because for the last 20 years people like you have said they have outlived their usefulness. That means the GOP were successful in slandering unions as they sent their jobs overseas.

I remember they attacked unions in 2007 as their jobs went overseas.

I don't know how to argue with you anymore. Who are you? Are you a trump supporter, Bernie supporter? Are you liberal or conservative?

You know what? I don't support unions. Fuck them. I don't get a pension so why should they? And they raise the cost of things because of their high pay. And they didn't go to college so why should they be paid so handsomely? And I especially don't support them because too many of them vote GOP. They need to be fucked in the ass. If it weren't for unions Rick Snyder wouldn't have won re election in Michigan or even his first term he wouldn't have won. So those unions deserve what's coming to them. In fact you all deserve what's coming to you for being so fucking stupid.

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

No shit he flip flopped on you ya stupid idiots!

With Democrats and labor leaders vowing retribution at the ballot box and beyond, the Republican-dominated Michigan Legislature on Tuesday approved sweeping, statewide changes to the way unions will be financed, substantially reducing their power in a state that has long been a symbol of union might and an incubator for the American labor movement.

As thousands of incensed union members filled the Capitol rotunda and poured out onto its lawn chanting “shame, shame,” labor leaders and Democrats said they would immediately mount an intense, unceasing campaign to regain control of the Legislature and the governor’s office by 2015.

And yet Snyder and Republicans still rule Michigan. Who do I blame? The citizens of Michigan. I don't blame Republicans or Rick Snyder. The people did this to themselves.

First show me where I claimed unions have out lived their usefulness. I am an independent, you just don't like those that think for themselves. I don't care what Michigan does or who they elect.

Had most any other GOP had won the nomination, they would have gotten my vote. Not sure why you think supporting Sanders was bad, he was better than trump and Clinton.

Falling back on Trump is what makes you stupid.

Where did I fall back on Trump?


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[sealybobo]

That's why they're losing all their benefits. No one said they were smart people. Yes a lot of union people didn't believe trump would hurt them. They believed him like people who signed up for trump university

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Just because I'm not in a union doesn't mean I don't support them. If it weren't for people like me unions would be gone because for the last 20 years people like you have said they have outlived their usefulness. That means the GOP were successful in slandering unions as they sent their jobs overseas.

I remember they attacked unions in 2007 as their jobs went overseas.

I don't know how to argue with you anymore. Who are you? Are you a trump supporter, Bernie supporter? Are you liberal or conservative?

You know what? I don't support unions. Fuck them. I don't get a pension so why should they? And they raise the cost of things because of their high pay. And they didn't go to college so why should they be paid so handsomely? And I especially don't support them because too many of them vote GOP. They need to be fucked in the ass. If it weren't for unions Rick Snyder wouldn't have won re election in Michigan or even his first term he wouldn't have won. So those unions deserve what's coming to them. In fact you all deserve what's coming to you for being so fucking stupid.

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

No shit he flip flopped on you ya stupid idiots!

With Democrats and labor leaders vowing retribution at the ballot box and beyond, the Republican-dominated Michigan Legislature on Tuesday approved sweeping, statewide changes to the way unions will be financed, substantially reducing their power in a state that has long been a symbol of union might and an incubator for the American labor movement.

As thousands of incensed union members filled the Capitol rotunda and poured out onto its lawn chanting “shame, shame,” labor leaders and Democrats said they would immediately mount an intense, unceasing campaign to regain control of the Legislature and the governor’s office by 2015.

And yet Snyder and Republicans still rule Michigan. Who do I blame? The citizens of Michigan. I don't blame Republicans or Rick Snyder. The people did this to themselves.

First show me where I claimed unions have out lived their usefulness. I am an independent, you just don't like those that think for themselves. I don't care what Michigan does or who they elect.

Had most any other GOP had won the nomination, they would have gotten my vote. Not sure why you think supporting Sanders was bad, he was better than trump and Clinton.

Falling back on Trump is what makes you stupid.

Where did I fall back on Trump?


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You said first choice Bernie, 2nd Trump so clearly when Trump ran against Hillary your dumb ass voted for Trump. Well remember when Republicans in 2009 were saying what a failure the Obama presidency was? What do you think about Trump so far?

f you ask Republicans about their antipathy toward unions, they'll say that letting workers bargain collectively reduces a company's ability to act efficiently in the marketplace. If you knew anything about business, the market advocates will patiently explain, you'd understand that unions, with all their rules and conditions and strike threats, only make it harder for the company to make its products. Let management make decisions about things like wages and working conditions, and the result will be higher profits and more jobs, which will benefit everyone. In almost all cases, the corporation agrees; after all, union workers always earn better wages than their non-union counterparts, and they give power to the employees, which no CEO wants.

What most people probably don't realize is that this inherently hostile relationship between management and unions isn't something that's inherent in capitalism. In fact, in many places where there are capitalists making lots of money, corporations work—now hold on here while I blow your mind—cooperatively with unions. One of those places is Germany, and one of the biggest German companies, Volkswagen, is right now embroiled in a union election in Tennessee that has turned into a bizarre spectacle that is showing the true colors of American conservatism. If you thought conservative were just laissez faire capitalists, seeking freedom for businesses to create prosperity, you're dead wrong. What they actually want is something much uglier.

Just How Much Do Republicans Hate Unions?

 

[sealybobo]

That's why they're losing all their benefits. No one said they were smart people. Yes a lot of union people didn't believe trump would hurt them. They believed him like people who signed up for trump university

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Just because I'm not in a union doesn't mean I don't support them. If it weren't for people like me unions would be gone because for the last 20 years people like you have said they have outlived their usefulness. That means the GOP were successful in slandering unions as they sent their jobs overseas.

I remember they attacked unions in 2007 as their jobs went overseas.

I don't know how to argue with you anymore. Who are you? Are you a trump supporter, Bernie supporter? Are you liberal or conservative?

You know what? I don't support unions. Fuck them. I don't get a pension so why should they? And they raise the cost of things because of their high pay. And they didn't go to college so why should they be paid so handsomely? And I especially don't support them because too many of them vote GOP. They need to be fucked in the ass. If it weren't for unions Rick Snyder wouldn't have won re election in Michigan or even his first term he wouldn't have won. So those unions deserve what's coming to them. In fact you all deserve what's coming to you for being so fucking stupid.

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

State employee unions accuse Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder of 'flip-flopping' on bargaining strategy

No shit he flip flopped on you ya stupid idiots!

With Democrats and labor leaders vowing retribution at the ballot box and beyond, the Republican-dominated Michigan Legislature on Tuesday approved sweeping, statewide changes to the way unions will be financed, substantially reducing their power in a state that has long been a symbol of union might and an incubator for the American labor movement.

As thousands of incensed union members filled the Capitol rotunda and poured out onto its lawn chanting “shame, shame,” labor leaders and Democrats said they would immediately mount an intense, unceasing campaign to regain control of the Legislature and the governor’s office by 2015.

And yet Snyder and Republicans still rule Michigan. Who do I blame? The citizens of Michigan. I don't blame Republicans or Rick Snyder. The people did this to themselves.

First show me where I claimed unions have out lived their usefulness. I am an independent, you just don't like those that think for themselves. I don't care what Michigan does or who they elect.

Had most any other GOP had won the nomination, they would have gotten my vote. Not sure why you think supporting Sanders was bad, he was better than trump and Clinton.

Falling back on Trump is what makes you stupid.

Where did I fall back on Trump?


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In Statehouses Won By Republicans, the First Move Is to Consolidate Power By Weakening Unions

Why Republicans Hate Unions: They’re a Threat to Corporate Control

Now compare this reality to what Bernie Sanders says about unions:

"The benefits of joining a union are clear: higher wages, better benefits and a more secure retirement. If we are serious about reducing income and wealth inequality and rebuilding the middle class, we have got to substantially increase the number of union jobs in this country."

"There are folks out there who say, 'it doesn't impact me, I'm not a union guy, I'm not a teacher, I'm not a civil servant.' Let me tell you how it does matter to you. Wages are going down in this country for everybody. When you destroy unions there will be no standard at all, nobody left to negotiate decent jobs for the middle class."

So wake the fuck up Papa. Your ignorance is killing the middle class. YOU are what's wrong with America. At least you vote but you are voting for the wrong party. Tea bag the middle class party. Take it back. Don't try to make the GOP the party for the middle class. It can't or WON'T be both the party for the rich and middle class because that's the Democratic goal. Remember the 90's when even the middle class was making good money? The rich didn't like that. They said it was unsustainable. That was a lie. They just knew that if they broke unions they could increase profits. And you let it happen.

 

[task0778]

There are reasons why when given the choice so many people opt out of paying dues or being forced to join a union if they want a job. First, when you force an employer to pay higher wages than what the market value is, those employers will find ways to cut back on labor costs in a number of ways: they cut back on hours or benefits or the number of employees, or they automate some jobs out of existence, or they move to a RTW state or totally out of the country, or they raise prices if they can, or in some cases they go out of business. So, there are a lot of people who would rather have a lower paying job than no job at all.

 

[Papageorgio]

They were basically the same on the issues, but you went with the bs propaganda/malevolent gossip, dupe.

What kind of idiot was going to vote Bernie but then voted for trump or Gary Johnson or Jill Stein?

I love it how easy it was for Republicans to take back the house and senate. Maybe papa can tell us what Republicans did to gain our trust back after we booted them out of power in 2006. And what was it that Democrats did to hurt him? And what does he think Republicans are gonna do. Seems guys like papa are blind to the Republicans hand in the widening gap between rich and poor. And if papa cries class warfare then he's lying about feeling the burn

Stein and Johnson are a little far out there. You still pro union even though you don't look for the union label? Sounds shady to me.

I warned socialists like you not to be butt hurt that Hillary beat Berny. Better her than trump but you guys wouldn't listen. Now you keep going on about how the dems are the party of the rich. Sounds like you're making excuses why you fucked up.

You fucked up, you nominated the one person who would lose to Trump and why? Dems wanted a Wall St. 1%er as your President, and you got one. Lol!

You fucked up. They're talking about it today. Democrats are asking Gorsuch why he always sides with corporations and never citizens. That's the same thing we asked about Alito and Roberts. So don't cry that the system is rigged when by your ignorance a guy like Trump got elected and Republicans own both houses so they can nominate whoever they want. And who do they want? They want another pro corporate hack in there. So that's why Hillary was better than Trump because she would have nominated a liberal. As a Bernie supporter you must have realized it at the time when you basically sat out and didn't vote. Because that's what you did by not voting Hillary. You wanted to protest NOW? Now is when you decided to say fuck it and give the ship back over to Republicans? You must be dumber than I thought. No, you are exactly as stupid as I thought. You are the typical American. Dumb as a fucking bag of rocks. So when TRUMP appoints a supreme court justice that is a corporate shill, you keep telling us how both parties are bad and it doesn't matter or pretend you care that Hillary takes money from Walstreet so you might as well vote for Wallstreet. How dumb are you?

I am smarter than you because had you and many others not voted for either candidate we wouldn't be in this mess. I never considered Hillary a solution to anything.

 

[Papageorgio]

Stein and Johnson are a little far out there. You still pro union even though you don't look for the union label? Sounds shady to me.

I warned socialists like you not to be butt hurt that Hillary beat Berny. Better her than trump but you guys wouldn't listen. Now you keep going on about how the dems are the party of the rich. Sounds like you're making excuses why you fucked up.

You fucked up, you nominated the one person who would lose to Trump and why? Dems wanted a Wall St. 1%er as your President, and you got one. Lol!

Funny you say you would have supported Bernie Sanders but Bernie himself told you to vote for Hillary so Trump wouldn't win and you didn't listen to him. Something doesn't add up here.

What you did was fall for the Republicans bullshit. They said the same shit about Obama and you bought that too. But I notice you don't mind at all that the GOP are the party of Wallstreet and the 1%ers. In fact did you see the stock market sore under Trump? They must not hate it that Republicans are in charge and you don't seem to mind it much either.

I don't believe you are a Bernie supporter. Nothing from your politics leads me to believe you ever felt the Bern.

Bernie was the best of the three, I rated them Bernie, Trump and then Clinton. I would rather have Bernie over eith Clinton or Trump, as I stated many times, both Clinton and Trump were disasters and nothing has changed my mind.

You don't think Bernie would have been a disaster? Different kind maybe, but an avowed socialist?

Tell me how he would have been a disaster, he would have a minority in the House and the Senate, he had enough Democrats think he was too far left and all his ideas would have been DOA.

 

[task0778]

I warned socialists like you not to be butt hurt that Hillary beat Berny. Better her than trump but you guys wouldn't listen. Now you keep going on about how the dems are the party of the rich. Sounds like you're making excuses why you fucked up.

You fucked up, you nominated the one person who would lose to Trump and why? Dems wanted a Wall St. 1%er as your President, and you got one. Lol!

Funny you say you would have supported Bernie Sanders but Bernie himself told you to vote for Hillary so Trump wouldn't win and you didn't listen to him. Something doesn't add up here.

What you did was fall for the Republicans bullshit. They said the same shit about Obama and you bought that too. But I notice you don't mind at all that the GOP are the party of Wallstreet and the 1%ers. In fact did you see the stock market sore under Trump? They must not hate it that Republicans are in charge and you don't seem to mind it much either.

I don't believe you are a Bernie supporter. Nothing from your politics leads me to believe you ever felt the Bern.

Bernie was the best of the three, I rated them Bernie, Trump and then Clinton. I would rather have Bernie over eith Clinton or Trump, as I stated many times, both Clinton and Trump were disasters and nothing has changed my mind.

You don't think Bernie would have been a disaster? Different kind maybe, but an avowed socialist?

Tell me how he would have been a disaster, he would have a minority in the House and the Senate, he had enough Democrats think he was too far left and all his ideas would have been DOA.

Still has his phone and his pen, right? Executive Actions and Orders out the ying-yang, hard to say which would've been overturned by the courts. You are right though, he wouldn't have gotten squat through Congress.

 

[Papageorgio]

People say, "I didn't want Hillary because she would just be the same old same old". Yes, that is true. She would have continued steady growth. 8 years of GDP growing under 2% is not steady growth, it's stagnation. If it wasn't for the boom in fracking we'd barely be above no growth at all.


She would have continued to protect unions and social security. Private unions have steadily declined in recent decades, including under Obama. Hillary would not have changed that, cuz she can't. And the SSTF is running a deficit, and has been doing so for several years. We better do something about it.

She would have doubled the debt but so will Trump. We'll see if the debt is doubled under Trump, but I think Hillary would have more than doubled it with her far left agenda.

She would continue pushing free trade but that's because free trade is inevitable. I dunno about inevitable, wonder if she would have supported or killed the TPP. I get the impression we would have continued to lose jobs going elsewhere if she were POTUS.

She would have not won the war on terror but neither will Trump. True, but with her policy of increasing the number of refugees by 500% I think the odds of a terrorist attack by one of those people would have increased by quite a bit.

But she would not have given massive tax breaks to the rich, which Trump will give. No doubt Hillary would have tried to increase taxes, and gotten nowhere with Congress. There is no way on God's green earth she could get a tax hike until the Dems control the House and have a filibuster proof Senate.

She would have insisted on making college affordable and fixing healthcare. No way can she make college more affordable or fixing healthcare if she tries to keep the ACA. What will she do that is different from what Obama did to make college cheaper? And HC is imploding, only a complete idiot/ideologue can argue against that.

And if you gave Obama the infrastructure/stimulus you are going to give Trump Obama would have had 4% growth. So why even bother reading the rest of your bad points when # 1 is already fatally flawed?

How much stimulus did Obama get? How many billions? How much are you going to give Trump?

 

[Papageorgio]

Yes you are, the facts are there and you like a good little puppy believe what you are told not what is really going on.

So you actually believe unions are voting 80% democratic? Lol! What a dupe.

That's why they're losing all their benefits. No one said they were smart people. Yes a lot of union people didn't believe trump would hurt them. They believed him like people who signed up for trump university

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Point is union members must not be that smart.

The national exit polls gave Clinton an 8-point advantage in union households. She did better in some states: In Michigan, Clinton had a 16-point margin among union households.

But those would still be weak performances compared with other recent candidates. Exit polls from 2012 showed Obama taking union households by 18 points.

Trump did something unheard of for a modern Republican presidential candidate: He made a direct appeal to union workers and claimed to be their champion. When the AFL-CIO announced its endorsement of Clinton ― the federation went on to send millions of dollars to her and other Democrats ― Trump predicted that “their members will be voting for me in much larger numbers than for her.”

That probably wasn’t true, but Trump likely took a much greater bite out of union households than your typical Republican. Otherwise, it would have been tough to win the union-dense states that he did, like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and, as of this writing, likely Michigan. (The AFL-CIO had a press conference on the election slated for Wednesday morning, but canceled it after Trump won.)

That’s some bad news for organized labor, and not just because their chosen candidate lost.

Faced with efforts to roll back collective bargaining rights, unions badly wanted a Democrat in the White House, and ideally a Democratic-controlled Senate, to keep those attacks at bay. And the AFL-CIO now sees itself as part of a broad, progressive coalition that cares not just about workers’ rights, but also the environment and racial and criminal justice.

“The presence of racism, misogyny, and anti-immigrant appeals caused damage in this campaign and we must all try to repair it with inclusion, decency and honesty,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement Wednesday.

As unions of all kinds made clear all year, they viewed Trump as anathema to those causes. Union leadership made their case for why rank-and-file members should vote against Trump. But it looks like a lot of those members were on a different page.

You need to provide the link to give credit to the actual person that wrote this.

Unions aka Labor aka the Middle class is fucked for not election Clinton.

GOP plans new assault on unions

Donald Trump who complained in a 2015 GOP debate that wages are “too high,” is running for president this fall on the most virulently anti-worker and anti-union platform in the history of his Republican Party.

You, who does not buy the union label, does not give any money for unions, does not own a car made by a union have already made it clear you do not support unions, you just pretend you do. You are a fake.

 

[Papageorgio]

That's why they're losing all their benefits. No one said they were smart people. Yes a lot of union people didn't believe trump would hurt them. They believed him like people who signed up for trump university

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Point is union members must not be that smart.

The national exit polls gave Clinton an 8-point advantage in union households. She did better in some states: In Michigan, Clinton had a 16-point margin among union households.

But those would still be weak performances compared with other recent candidates. Exit polls from 2012 showed Obama taking union households by 18 points.

Trump did something unheard of for a modern Republican presidential candidate: He made a direct appeal to union workers and claimed to be their champion. When the AFL-CIO announced its endorsement of Clinton ― the federation went on to send millions of dollars to her and other Democrats ― Trump predicted that “their members will be voting for me in much larger numbers than for her.”

That probably wasn’t true, but Trump likely took a much greater bite out of union households than your typical Republican. Otherwise, it would have been tough to win the union-dense states that he did, like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and, as of this writing, likely Michigan. (The AFL-CIO had a press conference on the election slated for Wednesday morning, but canceled it after Trump won.)

That’s some bad news for organized labor, and not just because their chosen candidate lost.

Faced with efforts to roll back collective bargaining rights, unions badly wanted a Democrat in the White House, and ideally a Democratic-controlled Senate, to keep those attacks at bay. And the AFL-CIO now sees itself as part of a broad, progressive coalition that cares not just about workers’ rights, but also the environment and racial and criminal justice.

“The presence of racism, misogyny, and anti-immigrant appeals caused damage in this campaign and we must all try to repair it with inclusion, decency and honesty,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement Wednesday.

As unions of all kinds made clear all year, they viewed Trump as anathema to those causes. Union leadership made their case for why rank-and-file members should vote against Trump. But it looks like a lot of those members were on a different page.

You need to provide the link to give credit to the actual person that wrote this.

It Looks Like Donald Trump Did Really Well With Union Households. That's A Bad Sign For Unions. | The Huffington Post

I hope they figure out a "market friendly manner" in which to "hold Mr. Trump's, feet to the fire", regarding his pander pledge.

Holding a politicians feet to the fire has never been the American way. Politicians holding Americans feet to the fire is the American way.

 

[sealybobo]

What kind of idiot was going to vote Bernie but then voted for trump or Gary Johnson or Jill Stein?

I love it how easy it was for Republicans to take back the house and senate. Maybe papa can tell us what Republicans did to gain our trust back after we booted them out of power in 2006. And what was it that Democrats did to hurt him? And what does he think Republicans are gonna do. Seems guys like papa are blind to the Republicans hand in the widening gap between rich and poor. And if papa cries class warfare then he's lying about feeling the burn

Stein and Johnson are a little far out there. You still pro union even though you don't look for the union label? Sounds shady to me.

I warned socialists like you not to be butt hurt that Hillary beat Berny. Better her than trump but you guys wouldn't listen. Now you keep going on about how the dems are the party of the rich. Sounds like you're making excuses why you fucked up.

You fucked up, you nominated the one person who would lose to Trump and why? Dems wanted a Wall St. 1%er as your President, and you got one. Lol!

You fucked up. They're talking about it today. Democrats are asking Gorsuch why he always sides with corporations and never citizens. That's the same thing we asked about Alito and Roberts. So don't cry that the system is rigged when by your ignorance a guy like Trump got elected and Republicans own both houses so they can nominate whoever they want. And who do they want? They want another pro corporate hack in there. So that's why Hillary was better than Trump because she would have nominated a liberal. As a Bernie supporter you must have realized it at the time when you basically sat out and didn't vote. Because that's what you did by not voting Hillary. You wanted to protest NOW? Now is when you decided to say fuck it and give the ship back over to Republicans? You must be dumber than I thought. No, you are exactly as stupid as I thought. You are the typical American. Dumb as a fucking bag of rocks. So when TRUMP appoints a supreme court justice that is a corporate shill, you keep telling us how both parties are bad and it doesn't matter or pretend you care that Hillary takes money from Walstreet so you might as well vote for Wallstreet. How dumb are you?

I am smarter than you because had you and many others not voted for either candidate we wouldn't be in this mess. I never considered Hillary a solution to anything.

I know because you are stupid. The Democrats have been great. The only times they suck is when they act like Republicans.

NAFTA, Iraq, didn't give single payer a seat

And you punish them for acting like Republicans by voting Republican?

By the way la ram fan can suck my dick. I predicted raiders would go to Vegas, remember?

 

[sealybobo]

That's why they're losing all their benefits. No one said they were smart people. Yes a lot of union people didn't believe trump would hurt them. They believed him like people who signed up for trump university

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Point is union members must not be that smart.

The national exit polls gave Clinton an 8-point advantage in union households. She did better in some states: In Michigan, Clinton had a 16-point margin among union households.

But those would still be weak performances compared with other recent candidates. Exit polls from 2012 showed Obama taking union households by 18 points.

Trump did something unheard of for a modern Republican presidential candidate: He made a direct appeal to union workers and claimed to be their champion. When the AFL-CIO announced its endorsement of Clinton ― the federation went on to send millions of dollars to her and other Democrats ― Trump predicted that “their members will be voting for me in much larger numbers than for her.”

That probably wasn’t true, but Trump likely took a much greater bite out of union households than your typical Republican. Otherwise, it would have been tough to win the union-dense states that he did, like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and, as of this writing, likely Michigan. (The AFL-CIO had a press conference on the election slated for Wednesday morning, but canceled it after Trump won.)

That’s some bad news for organized labor, and not just because their chosen candidate lost.

Faced with efforts to roll back collective bargaining rights, unions badly wanted a Democrat in the White House, and ideally a Democratic-controlled Senate, to keep those attacks at bay. And the AFL-CIO now sees itself as part of a broad, progressive coalition that cares not just about workers’ rights, but also the environment and racial and criminal justice.

“The presence of racism, misogyny, and anti-immigrant appeals caused damage in this campaign and we must all try to repair it with inclusion, decency and honesty,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement Wednesday.

As unions of all kinds made clear all year, they viewed Trump as anathema to those causes. Union leadership made their case for why rank-and-file members should vote against Trump. But it looks like a lot of those members were on a different page.

You need to provide the link to give credit to the actual person that wrote this.

Unions aka Labor aka the Middle class is fucked for not election Clinton.

GOP plans new assault on unions

Donald Trump who complained in a 2015 GOP debate that wages are “too high,” is running for president this fall on the most virulently anti-worker and anti-union platform in the history of his Republican Party.

You, who does not buy the union label, does not give any money for unions, does not own a car made by a union have already made it clear you do not support unions, you just pretend you do. You are a fake.

I own a Ford fusion and vocally support and defend unions. Do you? Then stfu

 

[sealybobo]

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Point is union members must not be that smart.

The national exit polls gave Clinton an 8-point advantage in union households. She did better in some states: In Michigan, Clinton had a 16-point margin among union households.

But those would still be weak performances compared with other recent candidates. Exit polls from 2012 showed Obama taking union households by 18 points.

Trump did something unheard of for a modern Republican presidential candidate: He made a direct appeal to union workers and claimed to be their champion. When the AFL-CIO announced its endorsement of Clinton ― the federation went on to send millions of dollars to her and other Democrats ― Trump predicted that “their members will be voting for me in much larger numbers than for her.”

That probably wasn’t true, but Trump likely took a much greater bite out of union households than your typical Republican. Otherwise, it would have been tough to win the union-dense states that he did, like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and, as of this writing, likely Michigan. (The AFL-CIO had a press conference on the election slated for Wednesday morning, but canceled it after Trump won.)

That’s some bad news for organized labor, and not just because their chosen candidate lost.

Faced with efforts to roll back collective bargaining rights, unions badly wanted a Democrat in the White House, and ideally a Democratic-controlled Senate, to keep those attacks at bay. And the AFL-CIO now sees itself as part of a broad, progressive coalition that cares not just about workers’ rights, but also the environment and racial and criminal justice.

“The presence of racism, misogyny, and anti-immigrant appeals caused damage in this campaign and we must all try to repair it with inclusion, decency and honesty,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement Wednesday.

As unions of all kinds made clear all year, they viewed Trump as anathema to those causes. Union leadership made their case for why rank-and-file members should vote against Trump. But it looks like a lot of those members were on a different page.

You need to provide the link to give credit to the actual person that wrote this.

It Looks Like Donald Trump Did Really Well With Union Households. That's A Bad Sign For Unions. | The Huffington Post

I hope they figure out a "market friendly manner" in which to "hold Mr. Trump's, feet to the fire", regarding his pander pledge.

Holding a politicians feet to the fire has never been the American way. Politicians holding Americans feet to the fire is the American way.

And you sure showed them by voting trump

 

[Papageorgio]

The point is, 80% of unions don't vote Democrat. Hell, you don't support unions, neither does Franco and Campbell, you are frauds and phonies. I support unions more than you chumps do.

Campbell ignored my posts exposing him and his silly 80% stat.

You ignored me on exposing you on not supporting unions.

Franco ducked for a few days until I forced him to respond to me being right about the recession.

Point is union members must not be that smart.

The national exit polls gave Clinton an 8-point advantage in union households. She did better in some states: In Michigan, Clinton had a 16-point margin among union households.

But those would still be weak performances compared with other recent candidates. Exit polls from 2012 showed Obama taking union households by 18 points.

Trump did something unheard of for a modern Republican presidential candidate: He made a direct appeal to union workers and claimed to be their champion. When the AFL-CIO announced its endorsement of Clinton ― the federation went on to send millions of dollars to her and other Democrats ― Trump predicted that “their members will be voting for me in much larger numbers than for her.”

That probably wasn’t true, but Trump likely took a much greater bite out of union households than your typical Republican. Otherwise, it would have been tough to win the union-dense states that he did, like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and, as of this writing, likely Michigan. (The AFL-CIO had a press conference on the election slated for Wednesday morning, but canceled it after Trump won.)

That’s some bad news for organized labor, and not just because their chosen candidate lost.

Faced with efforts to roll back collective bargaining rights, unions badly wanted a Democrat in the White House, and ideally a Democratic-controlled Senate, to keep those attacks at bay. And the AFL-CIO now sees itself as part of a broad, progressive coalition that cares not just about workers’ rights, but also the environment and racial and criminal justice.

“The presence of racism, misogyny, and anti-immigrant appeals caused damage in this campaign and we must all try to repair it with inclusion, decency and honesty,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement Wednesday.

As unions of all kinds made clear all year, they viewed Trump as anathema to those causes. Union leadership made their case for why rank-and-file members should vote against Trump. But it looks like a lot of those members were on a different page.

You need to provide the link to give credit to the actual person that wrote this.

Unions aka Labor aka the Middle class is fucked for not election Clinton.

GOP plans new assault on unions

Donald Trump who complained in a 2015 GOP debate that wages are “too high,” is running for president this fall on the most virulently anti-worker and anti-union platform in the history of his Republican Party.

You, who does not buy the union label, does not give any money for unions, does not own a car made by a union have already made it clear you do not support unions, you just pretend you do. You are a fake.

I own a Ford fusion and vocally support and defend unions. Do you? Then stfu

I own a Suburban, a VOLT, before that a Terrain, a Malibu, a Dodge, Jeep, Dodge, Dodge, Chrysler and on and on. I won't own a foreign owned company's car. So fuck off you slimy little bastard!!!!!

 

[Papageorgio]

Point is union members must not be that smart.

The national exit polls gave Clinton an 8-point advantage in union households. She did better in some states: In Michigan, Clinton had a 16-point margin among union households.

But those would still be weak performances compared with other recent candidates. Exit polls from 2012 showed Obama taking union households by 18 points.

Trump did something unheard of for a modern Republican presidential candidate: He made a direct appeal to union workers and claimed to be their champion. When the AFL-CIO announced its endorsement of Clinton ― the federation went on to send millions of dollars to her and other Democrats ― Trump predicted that “their members will be voting for me in much larger numbers than for her.”

That probably wasn’t true, but Trump likely took a much greater bite out of union households than your typical Republican. Otherwise, it would have been tough to win the union-dense states that he did, like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and, as of this writing, likely Michigan. (The AFL-CIO had a press conference on the election slated for Wednesday morning, but canceled it after Trump won.)

That’s some bad news for organized labor, and not just because their chosen candidate lost.

Faced with efforts to roll back collective bargaining rights, unions badly wanted a Democrat in the White House, and ideally a Democratic-controlled Senate, to keep those attacks at bay. And the AFL-CIO now sees itself as part of a broad, progressive coalition that cares not just about workers’ rights, but also the environment and racial and criminal justice.

“The presence of racism, misogyny, and anti-immigrant appeals caused damage in this campaign and we must all try to repair it with inclusion, decency and honesty,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement Wednesday.

As unions of all kinds made clear all year, they viewed Trump as anathema to those causes. Union leadership made their case for why rank-and-file members should vote against Trump. But it looks like a lot of those members were on a different page.

You need to provide the link to give credit to the actual person that wrote this.

It Looks Like Donald Trump Did Really Well With Union Households. That's A Bad Sign For Unions. | The Huffington Post

I hope they figure out a "market friendly manner" in which to "hold Mr. Trump's, feet to the fire", regarding his pander pledge.

Holding a politicians feet to the fire has never been the American way. Politicians holding Americans feet to the fire is the American way.

And you sure showed them by voting trump

True if I did however since I didn't vote for him and you voted for evil. Love how you can support evil.

 

[danielpalos]

a surcharge is a market friendly metric.

and, we know that the right wing had only hearsay and soothsay, not any form of valid economic argument, regarding price inflation due to the minimum wage going up.

 

[Papageorgio]

a surcharge is a market friendly metric.

and, we know that the right wing had only hearsay and soothsay, not any form of valid economic argument, regarding price inflation due to the minimum wage going up.

A surcharge is an unnecessary charge when a simple price increase would fill the same void and maintain wages and profit. All I have heard from you is hearsay, no facts.