Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases

People just need to research a bit. It's easy now with so much Internet information. Only eat at restaurants or frequent businesses that fit your moral/ethical belief system. There's enough info out there for folks to make informed decisions about businesses. If a business doesn't fit your moral/ethical belief system, don't give it your money. Businesses catch on after awhile. The consumer has more power now than ever before.

Personally, i only spend money at businesses i feel do the right thing. I reward them for that. I'll pay more. If all Americans do that, Businesses will come around. They'll make changes. It's been proven. So, if a restaurant doesn't wanna behave morally and ethically, don't give it your hard-earned money. You as a consumer, do have a lotta power. Go ahead and exercise that power.


I agree with that. But then you need to take it to a more complete logical stance: Businesses should also be able to choose their customers. If they don't want to do business with someone who they believe is not moral or ethical, they have that right as well.

Consumers these days are in the best position they've ever been in. They really do have an incredible amount of power. With so much information on businesses out there, it's pretty easy to make the right decisions. You can spend your money at businesses you feel do the right thing. However, i know it's impossible to do it all the time.

You just have to do some research. There's an awful lot of businesses out there that do the wrong thing. It's like one poster said earlier. He or she is willing to do whatever possible to screw a fellow American. Meaning, they would pay a Worker $1 an hr. if they thought they could get away with it. You're dealing with a lot of bad Americans like that. So as a Consumer, you just need to make sure you're not giving those folks your money.


How do you sleep at night living in a country where you think businesses are mostly evul?

Money is the root of all evil.
 
It's funny how the RWnuts cheer Trump's baloney about bringing millions of good paying jobs back to America,

but in the next moment those same nuts are ripping anyone for making a little more money for an honest day's work.
 
We would not need a huge minimum wage increase if we had allowed wages to increase with inflation for the last eight years

Employers have profited from frozen wages for eight years

Time to pay the piper
/--- Workers should get what they earn and what the employer can afford not what some power hungry politician says they should get so he can consolidate his power base.
Actually.........we have a society that looks out for those least able to defend themselves

Like low wage workers
so a person who chooses to work for a MW job just is utterly incapable of being able do do anything else?

Why do you have such a low opinion of people?

Well it's either that or some sort of superiority complex


Why does RW think that: PROJECTION!

I cannot speak for any RW and if you'd notice I didn't mention any wings in my post

But I have far more faith in the ability of people to better themselves than any of you do

that much is obvious
I believe we don't need our wars on crime, drugs, poverty, and terror; how about you?
 
People just need to research a bit. It's easy now with so much Internet information. Only eat at restaurants or frequent businesses that fit your moral/ethical belief system. There's enough info out there for folks to make informed decisions about businesses. If a business doesn't fit your moral/ethical belief system, don't give it your money. Businesses catch on after awhile. The consumer has more power now than ever before.

Personally, i only spend money at businesses i feel do the right thing. I reward them for that. I'll pay more. If all Americans do that, Businesses will come around. They'll make changes. It's been proven. So, if a restaurant doesn't wanna behave morally and ethically, don't give it your hard-earned money. You as a consumer, do have a lotta power. Go ahead and exercise that power.


I agree with that. But then you need to take it to a more complete logical stance: Businesses should also be able to choose their customers. If they don't want to do business with someone who they believe is not moral or ethical, they have that right as well.

Consumers these days are in the best position they've ever been in. They really do have an incredible amount of power. With so much information on businesses out there, it's pretty easy to make the right decisions. You can spend your money at businesses you feel do the right thing. However, i know it's impossible to do it all the time.

You just have to do some research. There's an awful lot of businesses out there that do the wrong thing. It's like one poster said earlier. He or she is willing to do whatever possible to screw a fellow American. Meaning, they would pay a Worker $1 an hr. if they thought they could get away with it. You're dealing with a lot of bad Americans like that. So as a Consumer, you just need to make sure you're not giving those folks your money.


How do you sleep at night living in a country where you think businesses are mostly evul?

Not all of them are. I thought i made that clear. I was just saying that you can do research now and find businesses that fit your own moral/ethical belief systems. Consumers have more power than ever before.

I mostly spend my money at businesses i feel do the right thing. I try to anyway. I know it's impossible to do it all the time. I think it's actually kinda fun finding businesses you enjoy spending your money at. You actually feel better.
 
What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?
/---- You fail to grasp the basic principals of business, There job is to make a profit, it's not a social program. Why not open a business and show us how it's done. Well go ahead snowflake.

I care about the good of the nation . Not the desires of some biz who wants slave labor .


AW lil timmy call lassie and get a lick or two!!! The government has no reason or any business setting a wage. They have no idea what a business can afford to pay it's workers. The lies that it helps anything especially the min wage workers is LUDICROUS!! All it helps is the lying scum politicans that idiots vote for.
Fifteen dollars an hour competes favorably with the cost of social services.
 
It's funny how the RWnuts cheer Trump's baloney about bringing millions of good paying jobs back to America,

but in the next moment those same nuts are ripping anyone for making a little more money for an honest day's work.

I don't see anybody doing that. What I do see is people against government dictating wages for any employee. That's (or should be) between the employee and employer.
 
People just need to research a bit. It's easy now with so much Internet information. Only eat at restaurants or frequent businesses that fit your moral/ethical belief system. There's enough info out there for folks to make informed decisions about businesses. If a business doesn't fit your moral/ethical belief system, don't give it your money. Businesses catch on after awhile. The consumer has more power now than ever before.

Personally, i only spend money at businesses i feel do the right thing. I reward them for that. I'll pay more. If all Americans do that, Businesses will come around. They'll make changes. It's been proven. So, if a restaurant doesn't wanna behave morally and ethically, don't give it your hard-earned money. You as a consumer, do have a lotta power. Go ahead and exercise that power.


I agree with that. But then you need to take it to a more complete logical stance: Businesses should also be able to choose their customers. If they don't want to do business with someone who they believe is not moral or ethical, they have that right as well.

Consumers these days are in the best position they've ever been in. They really do have an incredible amount of power. With so much information on businesses out there, it's pretty easy to make the right decisions. You can spend your money at businesses you feel do the right thing. However, i know it's impossible to do it all the time.

You just have to do some research. There's an awful lot of businesses out there that do the wrong thing. It's like one poster said earlier. He or she is willing to do whatever possible to screw a fellow American. Meaning, they would pay a Worker $1 an hr. if they thought they could get away with it. You're dealing with a lot of bad Americans like that. So as a Consumer, you just need to make sure you're not giving those folks your money.


How do you sleep at night living in a country where you think businesses are mostly evul?

Money is the root of all evil.

And I say let's keep those minimum wage workers pure.
 
I stated the indisputable fact that when a low wage person makes more money they will spend more money.

Do you wish to dispute that?

I do.

A huge minimum wage increase has a domino effect causing inflation. If your wage goes up, but the cost of everything around you increases as well, how are you ahead?

Here in Cleveland they put the issue of a $15.00 minimum wage to vote in their all Democrat Council. They voted it down. Why? Because they knew it would chase businesses into the suburbs. So then they asked the county to join in so that wouldn't happen. The county wouldn't consider it for the same reason. It would chase industry to surrounding counties.

Why are politicians so interested in people making more money? The more money people make, the more taxes they pay. And if an increase causes a domino effect, then it's better yet, because everybody is making more money and paying more taxes.
We would not need a huge minimum wage increase if we had allowed wages to increase with inflation for the last eight years

Employers have profited from frozen wages for eight years

Time to pay the piper

No, not really. The less it costs to run a business, the less their product or service costs to the customer. Increase wages, their customers would likely have to pay that bill.

The customer is already paying $8 for a stinking burger. The owner obviously doesn't care about passing on cost
The business owner has profited off of a frozen minimum wage
The employees have had to make do with less

Time to even the playing field

$15 to make up for the last eight years and the next eight when we finally get around to raising it again

the employees could have left and found another job.

and all raising the MW to 15 an hour will do is decrease the purchasing power of everyone who already make 15 an hour or more

because the price of absolutely everything will go up and current MW wage workers really won't be much better off after all the price increases hit
Why do you believe that?

In the short run, we may see structural forms of unemployment, that could be solved by Congress, doing what they enjoy doing--micromanaging our tax codes.

In the long run, more people will simply be spending, more money. The laws of demand and supply, will apply, like usual.
 
What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?

Minimum wage workers are only about 3% of our workforce.

Then why do cons freak out over min wage ?
/---- Here's why Spanky, all of your fake outrage is just to cover your support for the Trade Unions who comntribute heavly to the DNC..
Unions to see benefit from higher minimum wage

Several United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW) Locals have an agreement with a California grocer requiring that, “in the event the State or Federal minimum wage increases during the term of this Agreement (2007-2011) to a rate greater than eight dollars ($8.00), each rate will be at least twenty cents ($0.20) above the minimum wage and each rate will be at least ten cents ($0.10) higher than the previous rate in the progression schedule.”

One SEIU Local’s agreement orders that “[t]he minimum hourly wage rates shall exceed any statutory applicable minimum wage rate by fifty cents.”

The Retail, Wholesale, & Chain Store Food Employees Union Local 338 have an agreement that says, “In the event of an increase in Federal or State minimum wage requirements, the employer agrees to meet and discuss those rates impacted by the new minimum wage.”

Read more: Unions to see benefit from higher minimum wage

The GOP war on unions has lead to the decline of the middle class.

Why do u think we have such a wage gap.

Because we all give our money to the rich.
 
BUT BUT BUT Libtards laughed when Republicans said higher minimum wages will drive up food costs.

Restaurant diners are footing the bill for rising minimum wages.

In lieu of steep menu price increases, many independent and regional chain restaurants in states including Arizona, California, Colorado and New York are adding surcharges of 3% to 4% to help offset rising labor costs. Industry analysts expect the practice to become widespread as more cities and states increase minimum wages.

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“It’s the emerging new norm,” said Sharokina Shams, spokeswoman for the California Restaurant Association. She said California restaurants are adding surcharges as the state lifts the minimum wage every year until it reaches $15 an hour by 2023. It is currently at $10.50 an hour for employers with 26 or more workers.
Restaurants are adding labor surcharges to help offset minimum wage increases
Only the right wing has a problem with that. They were predicting, massive price inflation and doubling of prices.


So employers with 27 employees can fire two workers and put more work on the rest and not pay any increase. SOUNDS like a good move to me!!! What actually happens takes a few pay periods to happen, and it always does happen that the increase is absorbed and the actual living wage increases more than the raise in the minimum wage.
Wages should always, outpace inflation; socialism, well regulated, can do that; capitalism, cannot.
 
What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?
/---- You fail to grasp the basic principals of business, There job is to make a profit, it's not a social program. Why not open a business and show us how it's done. Well go ahead snowflake.

I care about the good of the nation . Not the desires of some biz who wants slave labor .


AW lil timmy call lassie and get a lick or two!!! The government has no reason or any business setting a wage. They have no idea what a business can afford to pay it's workers. The lies that it helps anything especially the min wage workers is LUDICROUS!! All it helps is the lying scum politicans that idiots vote for.
Fifteen dollars an hour competes favorably with the cost of social services.

Oh man, now you're gonna get the greedy white Republican folk all worked up. They really do hate poor people. You start talking about helping poor Americans, they immediately go full-on Archie Bunker-Mode.

Greedy white Republican folk are very predictable. It's a good thing they're Dinosaurs. They'll be extinct soon. And then American Workers will begin being treated with respect & dignity again.
 
What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?

Minimum wage workers are only about 3% of our workforce.

Then why do cons freak out over min wage ?
because you moron the call is for a 15 an hour MW which is more than double what it is now

a modest increase is no big deal but the whiners are asking for more than double
social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison. it is about privatizing costs, not socializing costs.
 
People just need to research a bit. It's easy now with so much Internet information. Only eat at restaurants or frequent businesses that fit your moral/ethical belief system. There's enough info out there for folks to make informed decisions about businesses. If a business doesn't fit your moral/ethical belief system, don't give it your money. Businesses catch on after awhile. The consumer has more power now than ever before.

Personally, i only spend money at businesses i feel do the right thing. I reward them for that. I'll pay more. If all Americans do that, Businesses will come around. They'll make changes. It's been proven. So, if a restaurant doesn't wanna behave morally and ethically, don't give it your hard-earned money. You as a consumer, do have a lotta power. Go ahead and exercise that power.
you cannot get a business's payroll figures from the internet
i don't mind, "working with the law", of large numbers.
 
People just need to research a bit. It's easy now with so much Internet information. Only eat at restaurants or frequent businesses that fit your moral/ethical belief system. There's enough info out there for folks to make informed decisions about businesses. If a business doesn't fit your moral/ethical belief system, don't give it your money. Businesses catch on after awhile. The consumer has more power now than ever before.

Personally, i only spend money at businesses i feel do the right thing. I reward them for that. I'll pay more. If all Americans do that, Businesses will come around. They'll make changes. It's been proven. So, if a restaurant doesn't wanna behave morally and ethically, don't give it your hard-earned money. You as a consumer, do have a lotta power. Go ahead and exercise that power.


I agree with that. But then you need to take it to a more complete logical stance: Businesses should also be able to choose their customers. If they don't want to do business with someone who they believe is not moral or ethical, they have that right as well.
not for the profit of lucre; Only not for profits, may do that.
 
I do.

A huge minimum wage increase has a domino effect causing inflation. If your wage goes up, but the cost of everything around you increases as well, how are you ahead?

Here in Cleveland they put the issue of a $15.00 minimum wage to vote in their all Democrat Council. They voted it down. Why? Because they knew it would chase businesses into the suburbs. So then they asked the county to join in so that wouldn't happen. The county wouldn't consider it for the same reason. It would chase industry to surrounding counties.

Why are politicians so interested in people making more money? The more money people make, the more taxes they pay. And if an increase causes a domino effect, then it's better yet, because everybody is making more money and paying more taxes.
We would not need a huge minimum wage increase if we had allowed wages to increase with inflation for the last eight years

Employers have profited from frozen wages for eight years

Time to pay the piper
/--- Workers should get what they earn and what the employer can afford not what some power hungry politician says they should get so he can consolidate his power base.
Actually.........we have a society that looks out for those least able to defend themselves

Like low wage workers
/---- Actually you are confused between someone who is mentally or physically disabled and can not defend themselves and a teenager looking for some extra coin so he or she can have some walking around money. That is the intent of minimum wage.
The intent of minimum wage is to get started in life, pay for college, buy a car, share rent on an apartment

You used to be able to do that on $2 an hour. Today, you can't do it on $8 an hour
It should be a (labor) market friendly alternative to means tested social services; to induce a "ready reserve" of labor market participants, willing to actively look for work.
 
What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?

Minimum wage workers are only about 3% of our workforce.

Then why do cons freak out over min wage ?

Because minimum wage creates a domino effect. See my response in post 515

So Do tariffs . But y'all love Trumps plans .

Who even gets min wage at a restaurant? The cooks ? The servers don't .
 
What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?

Minimum wage workers are only about 3% of our workforce.

Then why do cons freak out over min wage ?

Because minimum wage creates a domino effect. See my response in post 515

So Do tariffs . But y'all love Trumps plans .

Who even gets min wage at a restaurant? The cooks ? The servers don't .

That's another point. Waitresses are not covered under minimum wage because they usually make much more when you include tips. And there are plenty of businesses that can't find workers for the minimum wage we have. It's why any minimum wage is useless.
 
What good is an employer if their employees have to live off welfare to survive?

Minimum wage workers are only about 3% of our workforce.

Then why do cons freak out over min wage ?

Because minimum wage creates a domino effect. See my response in post 515
wages should always outpace inflation.

Well they don't. That's just a fact of life in the USA. If you don't like what you are being paid, you find a job that pays better. That's all.
 

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