Results of Gun Control in a Liberal Utopia

[kwc57]

Here is where we would be in the US if liberal gun grabbers had their way like the French. Read it and weep.

News from The Associated Press

Outrage is growing in France over the decision to bring manslaughter charges against a jeweler who shot and killed an escaping robber, but the country's top security official on Tuesday urged fearful storekeepers to let justice take its course........

.......In a country where gun violence is rare but thefts are increasingly common, the shooting has placed the government in a difficult position........

........Jewelers in southern France say they're being targeted as never before and lack the resources to protect themselves........

.........A single gunman in the southern city of Cannes made off with a $136 million cache this summer. That was followed by another armed robbery days later in the same city.......

.......The number of jewelry store robberies has been climbing for years. There's one robbery a day in France...........

..........This creates enormous stress for the merchants. They live with this fear and insecurity every day.........

And now that a jewelry store owner used his "illegal" firearm to protect himself and his property from criminals......the government wants to put him on trial. That my friends is fucked up.

 

[kwc57]

Wow! No one?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Don't worry, the police will keep you safe.

 

[Rct_Tsoul]

Don't worry, the police will keep you safe.

Hes right, if you live in France and this happens to you, just quickly assume the doggy style position, wait for them to finish & go away, then notify the authorities if your still able.

 

[idb]

Don't worry, the police will keep you safe.

Hes right, if you live in France and this happens to you, just quickly assume the doggy style position, wait for them to finish & go away, then notify the authorities if your still able.

I'm sure that's the general principle.
No one has the right to summarily execute someone over a property crime.

 

[Geaux4it]

I posted this in another thread and the anit- American gun grabbing liberals blame the statistics on culture. I salute that as they agree the gun is not the problem

-Geaux

Information in the post in part, comes from the 'Firing Line'

There are between 270-300 million guns in the USA. To put this in perspective, 4% of the worlds population owns 50% of all privately owned guns in the world. Some would think this would mean that the USA should have a homicide rate over 12x (50% divided by 4%) higher than the rest of the world.

In 2012 the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime compared intentional homicide rates for most countries in the world. USA's rate was 4.8 per 100,000 inhabitants while the worldwide average was 6.9. These figures mean you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than elsewhere in the world.. The 4.8 homicide rate is not even close to 12 times higher than the rest of the world.

So much for the hypothesis that more privately owned guns cause more murders.

Now, before you start throwing out how Japan, Australia, UK, Canada where guns are banned have rankings more favorable than the USA in homicide rates, so do Switzerland and Finland which have high rates of private ownership. In fact, Switzerland's homicide rate ranks 42% lower than the UK's. And of course, the gun control movement never mentions Mexico, Brazil and South Africa where private ownership is very difficult and which have homicide rates far above those of the USA.

While the hypothesis that high gun ownership rates cause a decrease in homicide is still being debated, the inverse that high gun ownership causes high homicide rates- is most certainly dead in the water.

 

[Geaux4it]

Don't worry, the police will keep you safe.

Indeed, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Furthermore, the police are not obligated to come to your defense.

I like my odds better with a weapon

-Geaux

 

[midcan5]

It's so nice to be safe even when dead, it surely helps undertakers, casket makers, and sometimes even siblings or others who inherit your stuff. Kinda like the western US in the 19th century, kill em all, such a nice sentiment and oh so civilized.

 

[Geaux4it]

It's so nice to be safe even when dead, it surely helps undertakers, casket makers, and sometimes even siblings or others who inherit your stuff. Kinda like the western US in the 19th century, kill em all, such a nice sentiment and oh so civilized.

Acceptable risk to live in the USA.

And like the UN report stated, you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than in the rest of the world. Many places that have more strict gun laws

-Geaux

 

[ba1614]

What we need are bigger "gun free zone" signs so people don't miss them.

 

[Geaux4it]

What we need are bigger "gun free zone" signs so people don't miss them.

Society is safer when criminals don't know who's armed

-Geaux

 

[idb]

I posted this in another thread and the anit- American gun grabbing liberals blame the statistics on culture. I salute that as they agree the gun is not the problem

-Geaux

Information in the post in part, comes from the 'Firing Line'

There are between 270-300 million guns in the USA. To put this in perspective, 4% of the worlds population owns 50% of all privately owned guns in the world. Some would think this would mean that the USA should have a homicide rate over 12x (50% divided by 4%) higher than the rest of the world.

In 2012 the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime compared intentional homicide rates for most countries in the world. USA's rate was 4.8 per 100,000 inhabitants while the worldwide average was 6.9. These figures mean you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than elsewhere in the world.. The 4.8 homicide rate is not even close to 12 times higher than the rest of the world.

So much for the hypothesis that more privately owned guns cause more murders.

Now, before you start throwing out how Japan, Australia, UK, Canada where guns are banned have rankings more favorable than the USA in homicide rates, so do Switzerland and Finland which have high rates of private ownership. In fact, Switzerland's homicide rate ranks 42% lower than the UK's. And of course, the gun control movement never mentions Mexico, Brazil and South Africa where private ownership is very difficult and which have homicide rates far above those of the USA.

While the hypothesis that high gun ownership rates cause a decrease in homicide is still being debated, the inverse that high gun ownership causes high homicide rates- is most certainly dead in the water.

USA's rate was 4.8 per 100,000 inhabitants while the worldwide average was 6.9. These figures mean you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than elsewhere in the world.

Sheesh, way to spin a statistic!

 

[Geaux4it]

I posted this in another thread and the anit- American gun grabbing liberals blame the statistics on culture. I salute that as they agree the gun is not the problem

-Geaux

Information in the post in part, comes from the 'Firing Line'

There are between 270-300 million guns in the USA. To put this in perspective, 4% of the worlds population owns 50% of all privately owned guns in the world. Some would think this would mean that the USA should have a homicide rate over 12x (50% divided by 4%) higher than the rest of the world.

In 2012 the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime compared intentional homicide rates for most countries in the world. USA's rate was 4.8 per 100,000 inhabitants while the worldwide average was 6.9. These figures mean you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than elsewhere in the world.. The 4.8 homicide rate is not even close to 12 times higher than the rest of the world.

So much for the hypothesis that more privately owned guns cause more murders.

Now, before you start throwing out how Japan, Australia, UK, Canada where guns are banned have rankings more favorable than the USA in homicide rates, so do Switzerland and Finland which have high rates of private ownership. In fact, Switzerland's homicide rate ranks 42% lower than the UK's. And of course, the gun control movement never mentions Mexico, Brazil and South Africa where private ownership is very difficult and which have homicide rates far above those of the USA.

While the hypothesis that high gun ownership rates cause a decrease in homicide is still being debated, the inverse that high gun ownership causes high homicide rates- is most certainly dead in the water.

USA's rate was 4.8 per 100,000 inhabitants while the worldwide average was 6.9. These figures mean you are 30% less likely to be murdered in the USA than elsewhere in the world.

Sheesh, way to spin a statistic!

Statistics are a funny thing. You know, like the folks that drown in 3' of water

-Geaux

 

[ba1614]

What we need are bigger "gun free zone" signs so people don't miss them.

Society is safer when criminals don't know who's armed

-Geaux

Naw, I think if we just made the signs big enough that people couldn't miss them the animals seeking to do harm would leave their guns home.

 

[Toro]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

So the results of liberal gun control utopia is that you are 16 times less likely to be murdered by a gun.

 

[Geaux4it]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But Switzerland that has high private gun ownership has a 42% lower homicide rate than the UK which has banned guns.

-Geaux

 

[Toro]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But Switzerland that has high private gun ownership has a 42% lower homicide rate than the UK which has banned guns.

-Geaux

Switzerland 0.52, 136% higher than France, 1200% higher than the UK

UK 0.04

 

[Toro]

Homicide rates

Switzerland 0.7
Austria 0.6

The two are neighboring Germanic countries. Austria has strict gun laws.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_rates

 

[rdean]

Here is where we would be in the US if liberal gun grabbers had their way like the French. Read it and weep.

News from The Associated Press

Outrage is growing in France over the decision to bring manslaughter charges against a jeweler who shot and killed an escaping robber, but the country's top security official on Tuesday urged fearful storekeepers to let justice take its course........

.......In a country where gun violence is rare but thefts are increasingly common, the shooting has placed the government in a difficult position........

........Jewelers in southern France say they're being targeted as never before and lack the resources to protect themselves........

.........A single gunman in the southern city of Cannes made off with a $136 million cache this summer. That was followed by another armed robbery days later in the same city.......

.......The number of jewelry store robberies has been climbing for years. There's one robbery a day in France...........

..........This creates enormous stress for the merchants. They live with this fear and insecurity every day.........

And now that a jewelry store owner used his "illegal" firearm to protect himself and his property from criminals......the government wants to put him on trial. That my friends is fucked up.

So the GOP plan is to arm felons, murderers and rapists? That's how we make the country more safe?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/law-a...or-felons-rapists-and-murderers-good-job.html

 

[rdean]

Firearm related homicides, per 100,000 people

France 0.22
USA 3.60


List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But Switzerland that has high private gun ownership has a 42% lower homicide rate than the UK which has banned guns.

-Geaux

First, two thirds of ALL gun related deaths are suicide.

Second, from the third that is left, most gun deaths occur where people are packed together in large cities. It's the same the world over. Switzerland is like one big rural area.