Retired pervert cop surprised that he is expected to follow rules.

[SavannahMann]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

But he hasnt got away with it. He has been caught,arrested and charged. What has been missed here ?

 

[Muhammed]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

 

[xband]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

 

[Muhammed]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

Bullshit. A 17 year old sexually mature young lady is perfectly capable of consenting to sex. And actually the average age that Americans become sexually active is 17.

BTW, peoples' brains are not fully developed until they are ~25 years old.

 

[fncceo]

BTW, peoples' brains are not fully developed until they are ~25 years old.

I've seen copious evidence that, in some cases, they never fully develop.

 

[xband]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

Bullshit. A 17 year old sexually mature young lady is perfectly capable of consenting to sex.

BTW, peoples' brains are not fully developed until they are ~25 years old.

A fully developed human happens at 25 years old and I agree with you. My brain fully developed when I was 20 years old but I am smarter than most.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

Isn't it strange that a brain on the last day of 17 years old is not fully developed, yet one day later magically poofs into full capability. Legally. For some things.

Not defending the cops actions, but realize these numbers are completely arbitrary. I've known many adults under 18, and many children far beyond that age.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

Bullshit. A 17 year old sexually mature young lady is perfectly capable of consenting to sex. And actually the average age that Americans become sexually active is 17.

BTW, peoples' brains are not fully developed until they are ~25 years old.

In that case, raise the voting age to 35.

 

[SavannahMann]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

But he hasnt got away with it. He has been caught,arrested and charged. What has been missed here ?

Good. He hasn't gotten away with it. Give me a minute to stop laughing.

Your mission if you choose to accept it is this. Find a case where someone in authority like a teacher was convicted of having an affair with a student and who got only probation. The average penalty at the Federal Level for possession of Child Pornography is 121 months. Ten years, but not ten years of probation.

http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FS-Intro-to-Child-Porn-8.22.13-fixed.pdf

But hey he was caught now. Caught by circumstance violating every single condition of his probation. I mean, so far a drunk driver has spent more time in jail that this yahoo, but hey he's caught now.

I do love how people like you try and pretend that there is no double standard. The probation officer was on top of this. Hey that is just a coincidence that a PO was not doing squat. Nothing to see here.

 

[SavannahMann]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

So are you hoping not to get caught picking up schoolgirls or is it just one of your fantasies?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

But he hasnt got away with it. He has been caught,arrested and charged. What has been missed here ?

Good. He hasn't gotten away with it. Give me a minute to stop laughing.

Your mission if you choose to accept it is this. Find a case where someone in authority like a teacher was convicted of having an affair with a student and who got only probation. The average penalty at the Federal Level for possession of Child Pornography is 121 months. Ten years, but not ten years of probation.

http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FS-Intro-to-Child-Porn-8.22.13-fixed.pdf

But hey he was caught now. Caught by circumstance violating every single condition of his probation. I mean, so far a drunk driver has spent more time in jail that this yahoo, but hey he's caught now.

I do love how people like you try and pretend that there is no double standard. The probation officer was on top of this. Hey that is just a coincidence that a PO was not doing squat. Nothing to see here.

Well somebody was doing something in order to catch him. Neither you nor I know enough detail on the case to judge whether his original sentence was fair or not. Certainly not from a couple of brief articles.

So if you want to make the case that paedos should be punished I dont think anybody would argue with that. But if you want to argue that this character should be hung and drawn then you need a stronger case.

 

[SavannahMann]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

But he hasnt got away with it. He has been caught,arrested and charged. What has been missed here ?

Good. He hasn't gotten away with it. Give me a minute to stop laughing.

Your mission if you choose to accept it is this. Find a case where someone in authority like a teacher was convicted of having an affair with a student and who got only probation. The average penalty at the Federal Level for possession of Child Pornography is 121 months. Ten years, but not ten years of probation.

http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FS-Intro-to-Child-Porn-8.22.13-fixed.pdf

But hey he was caught now. Caught by circumstance violating every single condition of his probation. I mean, so far a drunk driver has spent more time in jail that this yahoo, but hey he's caught now.

I do love how people like you try and pretend that there is no double standard. The probation officer was on top of this. Hey that is just a coincidence that a PO was not doing squat. Nothing to see here.

Well somebody was doing something in order to catch him. Neither you nor I know enough detail on the case to judge whether his original sentence was fair or not. Certainly not from a couple of brief articles.

So if you want to make the case that paedos should be punished I dont think anybody would argue with that. But if you want to argue that this character should be hung and drawn then you need a stronger case.

Odd. I don't remember saying anything about hung etc. I did intimate or allude that he should get the same punishment as others. I also indicated that the professional courtesy normal among cops explained the lax job the probation officer obviously did. I never suggested he be hung, drawn, executed, or even thrown into prison for life. I even posted a link where the average penalty for possession of child pornography was ten years.

So where is this claim from me that he should be pilloried or stoned to death in the town square at high noon?

 

[Muhammed]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

So are you hoping not to get caught picking up schoolgirls or is it just one of your fantasies?

My wife is a schoolgirl. She's a medical student.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

But he hasnt got away with it. He has been caught,arrested and charged. What has been missed here ?

Good. He hasn't gotten away with it. Give me a minute to stop laughing.

Your mission if you choose to accept it is this. Find a case where someone in authority like a teacher was convicted of having an affair with a student and who got only probation. The average penalty at the Federal Level for possession of Child Pornography is 121 months. Ten years, but not ten years of probation.

http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FS-Intro-to-Child-Porn-8.22.13-fixed.pdf

But hey he was caught now. Caught by circumstance violating every single condition of his probation. I mean, so far a drunk driver has spent more time in jail that this yahoo, but hey he's caught now.

I do love how people like you try and pretend that there is no double standard. The probation officer was on top of this. Hey that is just a coincidence that a PO was not doing squat. Nothing to see here.

Well somebody was doing something in order to catch him. Neither you nor I know enough detail on the case to judge whether his original sentence was fair or not. Certainly not from a couple of brief articles.

So if you want to make the case that paedos should be punished I dont think anybody would argue with that. But if you want to argue that this character should be hung and drawn then you need a stronger case.

Odd. I don't remember saying anything about hung etc. I did intimate or allude that he should get the same punishment as others. I also indicated that the professional courtesy normal among cops explained the lax job the probation officer obviously did. I never suggested he be hung, drawn, executed, or even thrown into prison for life. I even posted a link where the average penalty for possession of child pornography was ten years.

So where is this claim from me that he should be pilloried or stoned to death in the town square at high noon?

You didnt. You were suggesting that his initial punishment was insufficient and I amplified that for effect. Of course you know that and are resorting to infant debating tactics to deflect.

But my point still stands. You dont know if his initial sentence was just because you do not have the evidence. Neither do I.

 

[SavannahMann]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

But he hasnt got away with it. He has been caught,arrested and charged. What has been missed here ?

Good. He hasn't gotten away with it. Give me a minute to stop laughing.

Your mission if you choose to accept it is this. Find a case where someone in authority like a teacher was convicted of having an affair with a student and who got only probation. The average penalty at the Federal Level for possession of Child Pornography is 121 months. Ten years, but not ten years of probation.

http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/FS-Intro-to-Child-Porn-8.22.13-fixed.pdf

But hey he was caught now. Caught by circumstance violating every single condition of his probation. I mean, so far a drunk driver has spent more time in jail that this yahoo, but hey he's caught now.

I do love how people like you try and pretend that there is no double standard. The probation officer was on top of this. Hey that is just a coincidence that a PO was not doing squat. Nothing to see here.

Well somebody was doing something in order to catch him. Neither you nor I know enough detail on the case to judge whether his original sentence was fair or not. Certainly not from a couple of brief articles.

So if you want to make the case that paedos should be punished I dont think anybody would argue with that. But if you want to argue that this character should be hung and drawn then you need a stronger case.

Odd. I don't remember saying anything about hung etc. I did intimate or allude that he should get the same punishment as others. I also indicated that the professional courtesy normal among cops explained the lax job the probation officer obviously did. I never suggested he be hung, drawn, executed, or even thrown into prison for life. I even posted a link where the average penalty for possession of child pornography was ten years.

So where is this claim from me that he should be pilloried or stoned to death in the town square at high noon?

You didnt. You were suggesting that his initial punishment was insufficient and I amplified that for effect. Of course you know that and are resorting to infant debating tactics to deflect.

But my point still stands. You dont know if his initial sentence was just because you do not have the evidence. Neither do I.

The evidence? We know he was in a sexual relationship with a schoolgirl under the age of 18. We know this because the video found on his phone of them having sex was child pornography.

We know he was a lieutenant in the police and we know he was in charge of the School Resource Officers, the cops in the schools.

We know consenting adults did not come into it. Because no minor can consent to producing nude pictures or videos.

But you want to cut the cop some slack. Apparently so did the court since he did not get the prison time that anyone else would have. This is demonstrated by your inability to show any other case where a teacher or administrator got probation without jail time.

What more evidence do you want? You tried to paint me as unreasonable and rabidly anti cop. With one exception my words have always been to treat the cops like anyone else who committed the same crime.

Not more harshly. Just the same as anyone else. If a guy from the ghetto deals drugs and gets twenty years, the cop who deals the same drugs should get the same penalty. If the penalty is too harsh for a cop to endure, then the penalty is too harsh for anyone.

It is called equality. It is equal justice and should be the goal of any "justice" system.

When I call you on the effort you accuse me of juvenile debate tactics. Putting words and intentions onto your opponent is apparently acceptable.

Curious isn't it? You are arguing for unequal treatment for some. And in your world I am the bad guy because I argue for everyone getting the same punishment for the same crimes. Yet I am the juvenile in your view. Why? Is it because I don't understand that some should be treated unequally? Are my ideals of equal justice for all somehow childish?

 

[Correll]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

Bullshit. A 17 year old sexually mature young lady is perfectly capable of consenting to sex. And actually the average age that Americans become sexually active is 17.

BTW, peoples' brains are not fully developed until they are ~25 years old.

I agree.

The OP is very dishonest, not mention the age of the woman in question.

 

[SavannahMann]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

Bullshit. A 17 year old sexually mature young lady is perfectly capable of consenting to sex. And actually the average age that Americans become sexually active is 17.

BTW, peoples' brains are not fully developed until they are ~25 years old.

I agree.

The OP is very dishonest, not mention the age of the woman in question.

So it shouldn't be considered kiddie porn if the participant is 17. Where do you draw the line? Is 16 young enough? I'm willing to discuss this as though it is the relevant issue. Where do we draw the line? If the generally accepted limit of 18 is unfair in your world view, where do you suggest we draw it? Or is it a sliding scale to be decided on a case by case basis?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Last year as an investigation into his conduct as head of the school cops began Lieutenant Phil Redford retired from the police department. This protected his pension for his many years of service preying on children for his sick sexual gratification.

In January Phil pled guilty as part of a plea bargain. For his crime of possession of child pornography Phil got probation, and restrictions on his activities. Those included no contact with the girl he took the video of, registering as a sex offender, registering the cell phone he uses, and since he is a convicted felon forfeiture of the right to own a firearm.

Phil broke every single one of those restrictions. Literally every one.

In an editorial the local paper in Ohio says this proves no one is above the law. When you stop laughing at that here is the link. Showing No One Is Above the Law | News, Sports, Jobs - The Intelligencer

Another link to another news article. Retired Wheeling Police Officer Arrested, Charged

Ok. Let's get started. How did Phil manage to get away with breaking every one of the requirements? Obviously he had a Probation Officer. One who checked literally none of the blocks. Anyone want to bet that the probation officer cut Phil some slack? I mean they are sort of from the same club right?

Contrary to the editorial, Phil has been above the law. I doubt that he will face the full force of Justice now. But he may be the current sacrificial lamb to fool the people into believing that cops hate corruption as much as you do. Or something.

It was obviously a consensual relationship, so why are you calling him a pervert?

A child's brain is not fully developed and can't give consent.

Bullshit. A 17 year old sexually mature young lady is perfectly capable of consenting to sex. And actually the average age that Americans become sexually active is 17.

BTW, peoples' brains are not fully developed until they are ~25 years old.

I agree.

The OP is very dishonest, not mention the age of the woman in question.

So it shouldn't be considered kiddie porn if the participant is 17. Where do you draw the line? Is 16 young enough? I'm willing to discuss this as though it is the relevant issue. Where do we draw the line? If the generally accepted limit of 18 is unfair in your world view, where do you suggest we draw it? Or is it a sliding scale to be decided on a case by case basis?

Isnt 16 the legal age of consent in that state ? I am also sure you can get married with your parents permission.

You can have sex at the age of 16 in the UK. You dont have to though. 16 seems reasonable to me.

The age of the girl is not really the issue.

The fact that he was employed at the school is the issue. He was in a position of trust.

Their engagement is another clouding issue. As a father I would not be happy with this,dont know any Dads who would be.

You painted it as some sort of paedo rape thing but it sounds more like an abuse of power.