Right vs. Left is Logic vs. Emotion

[jillian]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

that's so funny.

 

[danielpalos]

He already "raised you a substantiated opinion"; you need one too, to "stay in the game".

I deal in facts. Opinions are for you emotional, irrational progressives who reject facts, science, data, etc.

you only have fallacy induced fantasy, in this case.

 

[JonKoch]

It's logical for Repugs to support the traitor Trump who loves Russia more than his own country? That's a head-scratcher.

The real head scratcher is how we can run three independent investigations, believe in the significance of establishing a senate judiciary and house intelligence committee to handle investigations impartially by demanding an independent investigation, all because democrats trust a news story to be honest in its conclusions over the lack of any evidence producing a crime in the first place.

I believe most of us are familiar with the consequences in starting search parties and using state resources over intensionally, misleading, or false information, I can easily see the same accountability parallel being concluded here surrounding certain newspaper publications. The same penalties ought to apply in the case of intentionally piecing together, reporting falsified or misleading claims, and allowing such strong accusations to be published resulting in the waste of taxpayer dollars. Let these media sources be held responsible for such actions. Flip the investigation around that places the newspaper or media outlet in the hot seat, if such reporting is deemed to have occurred.

Ex-CIA chief John Brennan: Russians contacted Trump campaign
Ex-CIA chief John Brennan: Russians contacted Trump campaign - CNNPolitics.com


CIA director alerted FBI to pattern of contacts between Russian officials and Trump campaign associates


“I was worried by a number of the contacts that the Russians had with U.S. persons,” Brennan said, adding that he did not see proof of collusion before he left office on Jan. 20, but “felt as though the FBI investigation was certainly well-founded and needed to look into those issues.”





WAPO
CIA director alerted FBI to pattern of contacts between Russian officials and Trump campaign associates

No evidence of collusion or efforts to alter an election, in fact Hillary's acceptance of finances into her "foundation" from foreign government demonstrates a clear actual physical trail that goes well beyond just a face to face encounter with a foreign official. Financial contributions have a way of producing actual evidence, physical evidence that liberal democrats can't seem to find beyond having "met" someone. Likewise Obama must have been in collusion for simply facing foreign officials prior to his presidency. At least produce some actual evidence that places Trump in a different category from others who ran for the executive office, because these constant assumptions to conspire that is being produced are really pathetic. This is why I will get laughing emojis instead because they can't really say what makes Trump's case different from Hillary or any other politician, as well as the lack of a trail of physical evidence that was clearly evident through Mrs Clintons financial contributions from foreign nations which indictates actual conflict of interest to HER political position..

God thing there are investigations going on right cupcake?

Really I see no difference than the birther movements seeking Obama's impeachment, you can always find a fruit cake.

Yeah the "birther" movement based on RACE, whether he was born in US or not, he WAS a US citizen by his mother's birthright VS an INVESTIGATION (NOT IMPEACHMENT) into Russia's involvement in interfering with US elections and IF there were ties to the Cheeto campaign are the same right cupcake?

NOT like it's MUCH easier to show the GOP's YEARS LONG "investigation" on BJ Bill or Hilary/Obama "Bengazzzzzzi" investigations right?

 

[JonKoch]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

Must be why tens of thousands died every year and left millions without health insurance and the ability to treat chronic illnesses *shaking head*

 

[P@triot]

Capitalism died 1929; socialism has been bailing out capitalism, ever since.

Capitalism has been bailing out idiot socialism ever since. For example, the ignorant left-wing policy of the 1997 Community Re-Investment Act collapsed the housing market. Unemployment reached 10% under Barack Obama. Then America turned to conservatives in record numbers in the 2010 mid-terms and we started turning the collapse around.

 

[P@triot]

Must be why tens of thousands died every year and left millions without health insurance and the ability to treat chronic illnesses *shaking head*

Nobody gets "left" without health insurance, snowflake. It's not like it's passed out by some central authority. People make choices which leads to them ending up without health insurance.

Some choose not to pay for it. Some choose to work for poorly run companies which go out of business. Some choose to put a needle in their arm. We know how you fascists hate choice - but that's how it goes.

 

[JonKoch]

Capitalism died 1929; socialism has been bailing out capitalism, ever since.

Capitalism has been bailing out idiot socialism ever since. For example, the ignorant left-wing policy of the 1997 Community Re-Investment Act collapsed the housing market. Unemployment reached 10% under Barack Obama. Then America turned to conservatives in record numbers in the 2010 mid-terms and we started turning the collapse around.

LMAOROG

GROW A BRAIN BUTTERCUP


Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets March 2008

"The Presidents Working Group's March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007."

WHY'D IT TAKE SO LONG BUTTERCUP? BTW, IT WAS CRA UNDER CARTER, WEAKENED ENFORCEMENT UNDER DUBYA





Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "

http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/20081203_analysis.pdf

"Another form of easing facilitated the rapid rise of mortgages that didn't require borrowers to fully document their incomes. In 2006, these low- or no-doc loans comprised 81 percent of near-prime, 55 percent of jumbo, 50 percent of subprime and 36 percent of prime securitized mortgages."

Q HOLY JESUS! DID YOU JUST PROVE THAT OVER 50 % OF ALL MORTGAGES IN 2006 DIDN'T REQUIRE BORROWERS TO DOCUMENT THEIR INCOME?!?!?!?

A Yes.




Q WHO THE HELL LOANS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHECKING THEIR INCOMES?!?!?

A Banks.

Q WHY??!?!!!?!

A Two reasons, greed and Bush's regulators let them


FACTS on Dubya's great recession

 

[JonKoch]

Must be why tens of thousands died every year and left millions without health insurance and the ability to treat chronic illnesses *shaking head*

Nobody gets "left" without health insurance, snowflake. It's not like it's passed out by some central authority. People make choices which leads to them ending up without health insurance.

Some choose not to pay for it. Some choose to work for poorly run companies which go out of business. Some choose to put a needle in their arm. We know how you fascists hate choice - but that's how it goes.

Got it buttercup, it's "choices" why the Cheeto/GOP "health care reform" (aka tax cuts for the rich), strips 23 million from health insurance???

 

[JonKoch]

Capitalism died 1929; socialism has been bailing out capitalism, ever since.

Capitalism has been bailing out idiot socialism ever since. For example, the ignorant left-wing policy of the 1997 Community Re-Investment Act collapsed the housing market. Unemployment reached 10% under Barack Obama. Then America turned to conservatives in record numbers in the 2010 mid-terms and we started turning the collapse around.

Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up

...The boom and bust was global. Proponents of the Big Lie ignore the worldwide nature of the housing boom and bust.

A McKinsey Global Institute report noted “from 2000 through 2007, a remarkable run-up in global home prices occurred.” It is highly unlikely that a simultaneous boom and bust everywhere else in the world was caused by one set of factors (ultra-low rates, securitized AAA-rated subprime, derivatives) but had a different set of causes in the United States. Indeed, this might be the biggest obstacle to pushing the false narrative. How did U.S. regulations against redlining in inner cities also cause a boom in Spain, Ireland and Australia? How can we explain the boom occurring in countries that do not have a tax deduction for mortgage interest or government-sponsored enterprises? And why, after nearly a century of mortgage interest deduction in the United States, did it suddenly cause a crisis?



For example, if the CRA was to blame, the housing boom would have been in CRA regions; it would have made places such as Harlem and South Philly and Compton and inner Washington the primary locales of the run up and collapse. Further, the default rates in these areas should have been worse than other regions.


What occurred was the exact opposite: The suburbs boomed and busted and went into foreclosure in much greater numbers than inner cities. The tiny suburbs and exurbs of South Florida and California and Las Vegas and Arizona were the big boomtowns, not the low-income regions. The redlined areas the CRA address missed much of the boom; places that busted had nothing to do with the CRA.

The market share of financial institutions that were subject to the CRA has steadily declined since the legislation was passed in 1977. As noted by Abromowitz & Min, CRA-regulated institutions, primarily banks and thrifts, accounted for only 28 percent of all mortgages originated in 2006.

•Nonbank mortgage underwriting exploded from 2001 to 2007, along with the private label securitization market, which eclipsed Fannie and Freddie during the boom.


Private lenders not subject to congressional regulations collapsed lending standards.


WAPO

Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up


NEXT LIE FROM YOU CUPCAKE?

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism died 1929; socialism has been bailing out capitalism, ever since.

Capitalism has been bailing out idiot socialism ever since. For example, the ignorant left-wing policy of the 1997 Community Re-Investment Act collapsed the housing market. Unemployment reached 10% under Barack Obama. Then America turned to conservatives in record numbers in the 2010 mid-terms and we started turning the collapse around.

We no longer have a truer, third world economy; (good) first world economies use socialism to bailout capitalism, for all of its capital worth.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

/---- There's not enough wealthy to put Republicans in office . Sorry snowflakes but it's the working class the Dems ignore that put them in office

What an ignorant statement cupcake

Senate Democrats won over 23 million more votes than Republicans

We're the popular party: Senate Democrats won over 23 million more votes than Republicans

It's official: Clinton swamps Trump in popular vote
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/


GOP Memo: Gerrymandering Won Us The House Majority
GOP Memo: Gerrymandering Won Us The House Majority



Study: Citizens United elected more Republicans


...And in six of the most affected states — Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio and Tennessee — the probability that a Republican would be elected to a state legislative seat increased by 10 percentage points or more.



In five other states — Colorado, Iowa, Texas, Wisconsin and Wyoming — Republican candidates were seven percentage points more likely to win.

WAPO
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/08/28/study-citizens-united-elected-more-republicans/?utm_term=.7c61979d4351

/---- Senate Dems may have gotten more votes because they came from Blue States with larger populations. That proves nothing. Here's some facts Spanky:
In Eight Years Barack Obama Has Obliterated the Democrat Party in ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../eight-years-barack-obama-obliterated-democrat-party...
Nov 9, 2016 - In 2009 Democrats held 60 seats in the US Senate. ... Under President Obama, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 .... Many of those precious little snowflakes have never had to work a job in their life, parents ...
Democrats lost over 1,000 seats under Obama | Fox News
www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/.../democrats-lost-over-1000-seats-under-obama.ht...
Dec 27, 2016 - The Democratic Party suffered huge losses at every level during Obama’s West Wing tenure. The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency. ... Democratic U.S. Senate seats ...

Yes ignore the Cit United study as well as GOP gerrymandering memo cupcake. Typical righttard

Excuses excuses excuses

Socialism never has and never will make anyone's life better, but you can choose if you want. Just leave the rest of us out of it

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

The US was founded on a limited government, the preamble made it clear "to provide for the common defense and promote the common welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity". There is nothing stating the government would supply all of your needs, they believed in individual rights of the people, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". Again, not the provision of needs towards dependency by a large empowering government over the people you are hard pressed to find facts the clearly dictate the Founders views and intention for a socialist form of government.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Air pollution and climate change are closely related. The main sources of CO2 emissions – the extraction and burning of fossil fuels – are not only key drivers of climate change, but also major sources of air pollutants. Furthermore, many air pollutants that are harmful to human health and ecosystems also contribute to climate change by affecting the amount of incoming sunlight that is reflected or absorbed by the atmosphere, with some pollutants warming and others cooling the Earth. These so-called short-lived climate-forcing pollutants (SLCPs) include methane, black carbon, ground-level ozone, and sulfate aerosols. They have significant impacts on the climate; black carbon and methane in particular are among the top contributors to global warming after CO2.

Air Pollution and Climate Change | IASS Potsdam

You miss this part? We are taking C02


These so-called short-lived climate-forcing pollutants (SLCPs) include methane, black carbon, ground-level ozone, and sulfate aerosols
.

Causes of pollution and what climate change people want to limit are the same.

No this is all about C02, the world had 5 times as much C02 in the air in the past and well you know , dinosaurs were HUGE.


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Here we ho again from the feeble minded: ":But CO2 has been higher in the past"

What was the climate then? What were the ocean levels. Temps?

Feeble minded? ...C02 five times higher , temperature a few degrees higher and so what about the water level..


More warmer a earth more C02 is a good thing for , I don't know like food?


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[regent]

One of the US Founders first socialized federal projects? FIRST NATIONAL HIGHWAY CUPCAKE

A highway is not "socialism", snowflake. Neither is a police force. Neither is a fire department. Neither is any of the other desperate examples that you dimwits attempt to use as propaganda.

So what is socialism?

 

[P@triot]

We know how you fascists hate choice - but that's how it goes.

Got it buttercup, it's "choices" why the Cheeto/GOP "health care reform" (aka tax cuts for the rich), strips 23 million from health insurance???

How does tax cuts for the rich strip anyone else of anything? That's only possible if those people are parasites mooching off of the wealthy. And if they are doing that - they deserve to lose anything they are taking.

 

[P@triot]

One of the US Founders first socialized federal projects? FIRST NATIONAL HIGHWAY CUPCAKE

A highway is not "socialism", snowflake. Neither is a police force. Neither is a fire department. Neither is any of the other desperate examples that you dimwits attempt to use as propaganda.

So what is socialism?

Haven't we been through this before, regent? And didn't you get obliterated? How have you not learned your lesson by now?!?

 

[P@triot]

What do you know - another idiotic meme from junior. This time from Robert Third Reich. The most appropriate last name ever for a true fascist.

 

[P@triot]

Private lenders not subject to congressional regulations collapsed lending standards.

Private lenders would never make risky loans if their ass was on the line for the loans. That's the beauty of pure capitalism - it flawlessly balances itself. It was only because Bill Clinton's idiotic 1997 Community Re-Investment Act forced banks to make loans they previously wouldn't make - and then incentivized them to make extremely risky loans by backing them up with Freddie and Fannie - that the housing market collapsed.

That's a fact. Collapse is what happens every time the government interferes in the private sector. But you don't care because you're only interested in government handouts like a typical selfish, greedy, progressive.

 

[Papageorgio]

1) Higher levels of CO2 are driving climate change, so lets go back to coal.

"Global Warming" doesn't exist, snowflake. Science has proven as much. So has history. It's why your left-wing masters were forced to rebrand it to "Climate Change". If only you dimwitted left-wing minions were bright enough to recognize this is proof that you were duped.

Climate Change deniers => dumber than shit.

Science has not proved it does not exist. You are a lying stupid person who would condemn his future generations to a more difficult life because he loves hos political party more than his family.

It was called Global Warming. Global Warming is a type of Climate Change. When it was called Global Warming, you asshats had a freaking fit every day it was cold.

And you nutjobs went nuts every day it was hot. Not sure what your point is.

 

[Papageorgio]

Weird YOU asked why Cheeto loved Russia more than US, I showed why cupcake, he doesn't "believe": US intel but LOVES him some Russians

Uh...no I didn't. Slyhunter asked you that in post #752. Are you finding it difficult to follow along in the thread?

Sorry Cupcake, didn't see you jumped into the thread but didn't add anything of value to it

When will you add some value to ANY thread?

You shouldn't pick your nose you stupid kid. Love how you attack others then cry like a baby when it is done in kind to you.

 

[P@triot]

Capitalism died 1929; socialism has been bailing out capitalism, ever since.

Capitalism has been bailing out idiot socialism ever since. For example, the ignorant left-wing policy of the 1997 Community Re-Investment Act collapsed the housing market. Unemployment reached 10% under Barack Obama. Then America turned to conservatives in record numbers in the 2010 mid-terms and we started turning the collapse around.

We no longer have a truer, third world economy; (good) first world economies use socialism to bailout capitalism, for all of its capital worth.

Just because you want something to be true, doesn't make it true. If socialism was such a "wonder" of economic prosperity, your ass would have moved to Cuba a long time ago. Thanks for playing.