Right vs. Left is Logic vs. Emotion

[JonKoch]

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

Na, but it is the reason this country is in so much debt… Socialism never can pay its own bills

True NOT when you GUT those "job creators" taxes Cupcake

...In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.


WAPO

As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

Who gives a shit what people make or how little they make... everyone should pay the same dollar amount in taxes… Because any type of progressive tax is taxation without representation

More of your right wing OPINION not based in history. Got it

Progressive taxes only appeals to spineless weasel's… envy is a weak emotion

Sure cupcake

 

[JonKoch]

As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

As the ignorant (you and your left-wing pals) become super ignorant (you and your left-wing pals), you believe dumber and dumber things. For real.

The Top 1% in this nation earned 19% of all income, but paid 35% of all federal taxes. By contrast, the bottom 50% earned 12% of all income, but paid a paltry and offensive 3% of all federal taxes.

In other words, the bottom parasites earned 63% of the income of the top earners, but paid just 0.9% of the taxes that the top earners paid. That is repulsive and the type of ignorance that could only come from the left. They earn 63% of the what they wealthy earn but don't even pay 1% of what the wealthy pay in taxes.

If you earn 63% of what the wealthy earns, you should at least pay 63% of what the wealthy pays.

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Another right winger who doesn't understand INCOME taxes are only 25% of ALL US taxes?

Nobody said "all U.S. taxes" snowflake. Why do you have to create a straw man? Oh yeah, that's right, because I'm kicking your ass from one side of this board to the other.

I specifically stated federal taxes about, snowflake. The more your ego forces you down this path, the uglier it gets for you. You were wrong. Dead wrong. Like all left-wing snowflakes, you bought into the emotion of the propaganda instead of buying into the rational facts.

I get it cupcake, you choose to lie and claim ALL federal taxes are income taxes *shaking head*

Again, federal income taxes are just 25% of ALL US taxes cupcake. Your premise, as usual, is BS

 

[JonKoch]

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

How Socialists Built America

Snowflake....adding a link to propaganda opinion piece doesn't help your case. At all.

And your inability to recognize HISTORY doesn't either cupcake.

One of the US Founders first socialized federal projects? FIRST NATIONAL HIGHWAY CUPCAKE

 

[P@triot]

Sorry cupcake

Yes. Yes you are. But...recognizing that fact is the first step. Kudos!

 

[JonKoch]

haha, you find me one person who will never use healthcare. And yes, that beats me paying for them when they get sick.

You have to love Brain "logic". He doesn't want to pay for people who are sick so he proposes socialized medicine so that he is forever forced to pay for people who are sick.

You already WERE FORCED to pay for them, ER care and bankruptcies etc, just in the cruelest and stupidest and deadliest way. Duhhhhh. You macho independant GOPers lol are first in line when your luck runs out...

Actually I don't remember a "fine" being implemented by the government to force individuals into accepting payment of health care premiums for coverage. Care to try that one again?

It's also rather interesting how the liberal democrats are spelrwading this lie claiming those who can't afford it would be denied care. Patients who have been admitted themselves through their local hospital can't be turned away for care, it's always been covered. Socialized medicine does not equate to better care, as I can site plenty of examples through NHS of that.

Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798
Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798


RIGHT WINGERS CAN'T FIND A SINGLE POLL EVER FROM A UHC NATION THAT WANTS US STYLE H/C WHY IS THAT?

 

[danielpalos]

What an ignorant statement cupcake

Senate Democrats won over 23 million more votes than Republicans

We're the popular party: Senate Democrats won over 23 million more votes than Republicans

It's official: Clinton swamps Trump in popular vote
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/


GOP Memo: Gerrymandering Won Us The House Majority
GOP Memo: Gerrymandering Won Us The House Majority



Study: Citizens United elected more Republicans


...And in six of the most affected states — Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio and Tennessee — the probability that a Republican would be elected to a state legislative seat increased by 10 percentage points or more.



In five other states — Colorado, Iowa, Texas, Wisconsin and Wyoming — Republican candidates were seven percentage points more likely to win.

WAPO
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/08/28/study-citizens-united-elected-more-republicans/?utm_term=.7c61979d4351

/---- Senate Dems may have gotten more votes because they came from Blue States with larger populations. That proves nothing. Here's some facts Spanky:
In Eight Years Barack Obama Has Obliterated the Democrat Party in ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../eight-years-barack-obama-obliterated-democrat-party...
Nov 9, 2016 - In 2009 Democrats held 60 seats in the US Senate. ... Under President Obama, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 .... Many of those precious little snowflakes have never had to work a job in their life, parents ...
Democrats lost over 1,000 seats under Obama | Fox News
www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/.../democrats-lost-over-1000-seats-under-obama.ht...
Dec 27, 2016 - The Democratic Party suffered huge losses at every level during Obama’s West Wing tenure. The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency. ... Democratic U.S. Senate seats ...

Yes ignore the Cit United study as well as GOP gerrymandering memo cupcake. Typical righttard

Excuses excuses excuses

Socialism never has and never will make anyone's life better, but you can choose if you want. Just leave the rest of us out of it

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

Na, but it is the reason this country is in so much debt… Socialism never can pay its own bills

It is what the One perMil is for; simply tax Them, to balance the budget.

 

[JonKoch]

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

Here, my little propaganda princess, chew on some facts for a few minutes...

The greatest threat to mankind's prosperity is government, not population growth. For example, Zimbabwe was agriculturally rich but, with government interference, was reduced to the brink of mass starvation.

That lone example (Zimbabwe) is seen all over the world. Cuba (same thing). Ethiopia (same thing). Cambodia (same thing). North Korea (same thing). The former U.S.S.R. (same thing). The list goes on and on and on snowflake.

‘Overpopulation’ Fears Are a Hoax. Here’s Why Higher Populations Are Actually a Good Thing.

Gawd you wingnutters are a crazy bunch...

 

[JonKoch]

haha, you find me one person who will never use healthcare. And yes, that beats me paying for them when they get sick.

You have to love Brain "logic". He doesn't want to pay for people who are sick so he proposes socialized medicine so that he is forever forced to pay for people who are sick.

You already WERE FORCED to pay for them, ER care and bankruptcies etc, just in the cruelest and stupidest and deadliest way. Duhhhhh. You macho independant GOPers lol are first in line when your luck runs out...

Actually I don't remember a "fine" being implemented by the government to force individuals into accepting payment of health care premiums for coverage. Care to try that one again?

It's also rather interesting how the liberal democrats are spelrwading this lie claiming those who can't afford it would be denied care. Patients who have been admitted themselves through their local hospital can't be turned away for care, it's always been covered. Socialized medicine does not equate to better care, as I can site plenty of examples through NHS of that.

"Patients who have been admitted themselves through their local hospital can't be turned away for care, it's always been covered"

Yes a GREAT way to treat cancer, diabetes, etc *shaking head*

 

[P@triot]

One of the US Founders first socialized federal projects? FIRST NATIONAL HIGHWAY CUPCAKE

A highway is not "socialism", snowflake. Neither is a police force. Neither is a fire department. Neither is any of the other desperate examples that you dimwits attempt to use as propaganda.

 

[JonKoch]

Progressive taxes only appeals to spineless weasel's… envy is a weak emotion

We would sure have tiny military without it.

That's not true at all. We spend more than 2x's as much on unconstitutional social programs as we do on defense. All we need to do is eliminate those unconstitutional programs and we could not only pay off our national debt, but we could actually increase our military.

Don't understand what unconstitutional means either cupcake? I'm shocked

 

[danielpalos]

Yes ignore the Cit United study as well as GOP gerrymandering memo cupcake. Typical righttard

Excuses excuses excuses

Socialism never has and never will make anyone's life better, but you can choose if you want. Just leave the rest of us out of it

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

Na, but it is the reason this country is in so much debt… Socialism never can pay its own bills

True NOT when you GUT those "job creators" taxes Cupcake

...In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income.


WAPO

As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

Who gives a shit what people make or how little they make... everyone should pay the same dollar amount in taxes… Because any type of progressive tax is taxation without representation

Taxation based on ability to pay is rational under any form of Capitalism. Equality is a social concept.

 

[Cellblock2429]

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

Here, my little propaganda princess, chew on some facts for a few minutes. This jack-ass is one of the leaders of the "Earth Day" event and one of the early purveyors of "Global Warming". Like all of the rest of the "Global Warming" assholes, history has proven they were dead wrong.

Malthus’ wrong predictions did not deter Stanford University professor Paul Ehrlich from making a similar prediction.

In his 1968 best-seller, “The Population Bomb,” which has sold more than 2 million copies, Ehrlich warned: “The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now.”

This hoax resulted in billions of dollars being spent to fight overpopulation.

The fact that you are so easily duped by a hoax that is almost 50 years old is as fall-down hilarious as it is tragic. And it continues to prove the premise of this thread correct. You reject all facts, science, reason, and logic in favor of emotion.

‘Overpopulation’ Fears Are a Hoax. Here’s Why Higher Populations Are Actually a Good Thing.

The majority of climate scientists agree that there is man made global warming.

That, moron, is science.

/---- that's just theory

 

[P@triot]

Gawd you wingnutters are a crazy bunch...

That's the standard left-wing answer when facts have left progressives with nowhere else to go.

 

[Rustic]

Progressive taxes only appeals to spineless weasel's… envy is a weak emotion

We would sure have tiny military without it.

That's not true at all. We spend more than 2x's as much on unconstitutional social programs as we do on defense. All we need to do is eliminate those unconstitutional programs and we could not only pay off our national debt, but we could actually increase our military.

Don't understand what unconstitutional means either cupcake? I'm shocked

A progressive tax is taxation without representation… Fact

 

[danielpalos]

As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

As the ignorant (you and your left-wing pals) become super ignorant (you and your left-wing pals), you believe dumber and dumber things. For real.

The Top 1% in this nation earned 19% of all income, but paid 35% of all federal taxes. By contrast, the bottom 50% earned 12% of all income, but paid a paltry and offensive 3% of all federal taxes.

In other words, the bottom parasites earned 63% of the income of the top earners, but paid just 0.9% of the taxes that the top earners paid. That is repulsive and the type of ignorance that could only come from the left. They earn 63% of the what they wealthy earn but don't even pay 1% of what the wealthy pay in taxes.

If you earn 63% of what the wealthy earns, you should at least pay 63% of what the wealthy pays.

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Taxation is based on ability to pay; are you advocating for a guaranteed income?

 

[JonKoch]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

It's logical for Repugs to support the traitor Trump who loves Russia more than his own country? That's a head-scratcher.

The real head scratcher is how we can run three independent investigations, believe in the significance of establishing a senate judiciary and house intelligence committee to handle investigations impartially by demanding an independent investigation, all because democrats trust a news story to be honest in its conclusions over the lack of any evidence producing a crime in the first place.

I believe most of us are familiar with the consequences in starting search parties and using state resources over intensionally, misleading, or false information, I can easily see the same accountability parallel being concluded here surrounding certain newspaper publications. The same penalties ought to apply in the case of intentionally piecing together, reporting falsified or misleading claims, and allowing such strong accusations to be published resulting in the waste of taxpayer dollars. Let these media sources be held responsible for such actions. Flip the investigation around that places the newspaper or media outlet in the hot seat, if such reporting is deemed to have occurred.

Ex-CIA chief John Brennan: Russians contacted Trump campaign
Ex-CIA chief John Brennan: Russians contacted Trump campaign - CNNPolitics.com


CIA director alerted FBI to pattern of contacts between Russian officials and Trump campaign associates


“I was worried by a number of the contacts that the Russians had with U.S. persons,” Brennan said, adding that he did not see proof of collusion before he left office on Jan. 20, but “felt as though the FBI investigation was certainly well-founded and needed to look into those issues.”





WAPO
CIA director alerted FBI to pattern of contacts between Russian officials and Trump campaign associates

No evidence of collusion or efforts to alter an election, in fact Hillary's acceptance of finances into her "foundation" from foreign government demonstrates a clear actual physical trail that goes well beyond just a face to face encounter with a foreign official. Financial contributions have a way of producing actual evidence, physical evidence that liberal democrats can't seem to find beyond having "met" someone. Likewise Obama must have been in collusion for simply facing foreign officials prior to his presidency. At least produce some actual evidence that places Trump in a different category from others who ran for the executive office, because these constant assumptions to conspire that is being produced are really pathetic. This is why I will get laughing emojis instead because they can't really say what makes Trump's case different from Hillary or any other politician, as well as the lack of a trail of physical evidence that was clearly evident through Mrs Clintons financial contributions from foreign nations which indictates actual conflict of interest to HER political position..

God thing there are investigations going on right cupcake?

 

[P@triot]

"Patients who have been admitted themselves through their local hospital can't be turned away for care, it's always been covered"

Yes a GREAT way to treat cancer, diabetes, etc *shaking head*

Right? A prime example of the failures of socialism/communism/marxism.

 

[danielpalos]

As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

As the ignorant (you and your left-wing pals) become super ignorant (you and your left-wing pals), you believe dumber and dumber things. For real.

The Top 1% in this nation earned 19% of all income, but paid 35% of all federal taxes. By contrast, the bottom 50% earned 12% of all income, but paid a paltry and offensive 3% of all federal taxes.

In other words, the bottom parasites earned 63% of the income of the top earners, but paid just 0.9% of the taxes that the top earners paid. That is repulsive and the type of ignorance that could only come from the left.

If you earn 63% of what the wealthy earns, you should at least pay 63% of what the wealthy pays.

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...and they aren't even represented... taxation without representation

The fine Capital laws of demand and supply, don't stop for right wing fantasy.

 

[P@triot]

Taxation is based on ability to pay; are you advocating for a guaranteed income?

If a group has earned 63% of the income, they have the ability to pay 63% of the taxes. Basic math.

 

[danielpalos]

US was Founded on socialism cupcake.....

Too lazy to come up with a valid argument, right wingers?