Rightwingers, of whom I'm one, let the gay shit go

[Avatar4321]

Protecting marriage is a battle that has to be fought to the end. That's not a battle we pick. It's s a battle we have to fight if we want to win the battle to restore our nation.

Marriage between a man and a woman is a fundamental building block of our society and the best way to raise children. The more we contribute to destroying the foundations of society, the less our society has to stand on.

We have to do our part in both the law and culture to preserve traditional marriage. Protecting the definition is fundamental to that. Preserving our own marriage is likewise fundamental. We need to be discouraging non-traditional "marriages" and divorce as much as possible.

Our society will be destroyed if we don't protect marriage to the end. Even if I am the only one standing for it, I will not back down.

If we lose marriage, winning elections wont mean jack.

 

[Natalie]

Protecting marriage is a battle that has to be fought to the end. That's not a battle we pick. It's s a battle we have to fight if we want to win the battle to restore our nation.

Marriage between a man and a woman is a fundamental building block of our society and the best way to raise children. The more we contribute to destroying the foundations of society, the less our society has to stand on.

We have to do our part in both the law and culture to preserve traditional marriage. Protecting the definition is fundamental to that. Preserving our own marriage is likewise fundamental. We need to be discouraging non-traditional "marriages" and divorce as much as possible.

Our society will be destroyed if we don't protect marriage to the end. Even if I am the only one standing for it, I will not back down.

If we lose marriage, winning elections wont mean jack.

wat do u think happens if gays get married???

 

[Avatar4321]

Protecting marriage is a battle that has to be fought to the end. That's not a battle we pick. It's s a battle we have to fight if we want to win the battle to restore our nation.

Marriage between a man and a woman is a fundamental building block of our society and the best way to raise children. The more we contribute to destroying the foundations of society, the less our society has to stand on.

We have to do our part in both the law and culture to preserve traditional marriage. Protecting the definition is fundamental to that. Preserving our own marriage is likewise fundamental. We need to be discouraging non-traditional "marriages" and divorce as much as possible.

Our society will be destroyed if we don't protect marriage to the end. Even if I am the only one standing for it, I will not back down.

If we lose marriage, winning elections wont mean jack.

wat do u think happens if gays get married???

I dont think they can get married any more than a cat can be a dog or a circle can be a square. If the government legalizes homosexual unions and calls it marriage it's just another step in confusing the people and destroying marriage. It will just lead to more broken homes and more children confused and without a mother or father or both.

 

[Natalie]

If the government legalizes homosexual unions and calls it marriage it's just another step in confusing the people and destroying marriage. It will just lead to more broken homes and more children confused and without a mother or father or both.

why will ppl be confuse?? how is marrage destroyed if more ppl do it??? how does it make a broken home if ppl get marryed??? why are children confuse you jus tell them whats up how does that make them not have a mother or father???

u say alot of things u don't back up wit ne thing if u want ppl to belief u better explain more

 

[Ravi]

LMAO!! You are the party of NAMBLA, they call it the Log Cabin Republicans cons haven.

Are you aware that you're in denial.. straw grabber?

Isn't the ACLU a tentacle of the Democrat Party?

ACLU To Represent NAMBLA

ACLU also defended Limbaugh...by your logic, Limbaugh and NAMBLA are connected.

Rush did go to a country that specializes in underage sex trade with a huge bottle of Viagra....you may be on to something.

 

[Seawytch]

Protecting marriage is a battle that has to be fought to the end. That's not a battle we pick. It's s a battle we have to fight if we want to win the battle to restore our nation.

Marriage between a man and a woman is a fundamental building block of our society and the best way to raise children. The more we contribute to destroying the foundations of society, the less our society has to stand on.

We have to do our part in both the law and culture to preserve traditional marriage. Protecting the definition is fundamental to that. Preserving our own marriage is likewise fundamental. We need to be discouraging non-traditional "marriages" and divorce as much as possible.

Our society will be destroyed if we don't protect marriage to the end. Even if I am the only one standing for it, I will not back down.

If we lose marriage, winning elections wont mean jack.

We can marry in 13 states and we've always been able to marry in church. You've "lost" already.

 

[Seawytch]

Pedophilia is a disgrace no doubt but certainly doesn't stop at Church front door..are you embarrassed that the Democrat sponsered liberal agenda supports NAMBLA and such?

LMAO!! You are the party of NAMBLA, they call it the Log Cabin Republicans cons haven.

Are you aware that you're in denial.. straw grabber?

Isn't the ACLU a tentacle of the Democrat Party?

ACLU To Represent NAMBLA

In a case about free speech. Come on Lumpy, really?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Gay marriage is against my state constitution.

 

[idb]

One of the interesting things I've noticed in this whole discussion recently is how the conservatives have pulled the old switcheroo.
Having lost the argument in the courts and in public opinion they are now pleading that they're being oppressed - that the the other side are showing bigotry by supposedly trampling on their right to express their hate and intolerance.
Even though that's demonstrably untrue.

It's fascinating and looks like the last twitches of a dying animal.

 

[JoeB131]

Gay marriage is against my state constitution.

Not sure why you feel a need to keep repeating that.

just embarrasses your state.

Gay marriage will be legal in the whole country within 10 years.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Gay marriage is against my state constitution.

Not sure why you feel a need to keep repeating that.

just embarrasses your state.

Gay marriage will be legal in the whole country within 10 years.

Supreme Court could have set the precedent.

They set it as a state's right.

Not going to change.

 

[JoeB131]

History often repeats itself.

The GOP for years played on the fears of Middle Class White voters, from Barry Goldwater's rejection of the Civil rights bill, to Nixon's Southern Strategy, to Reagan's imaginary welfare Queen, to Bush's Willie Horton commercial. The figured that they weren't going to get much of the black vote to start with, but they needed to maximize the bigot vote.

Today, the GOP can't find enough black folks to put on the platform, even if they are stuck with clowns like Herman Cain and Mia Love.

Not because they are really expecting to improve on that 6% of the black vote Mitt Romney won all that much, but because they realize that most white folks are kind of embarrassed by the racism of previous generations. Just look at what's happening to Paula Dean.

Same deal with gays. Yeah, it used to work politically for a while to do the gay-bashing. Unfortunately, as recently as 2004.

Probably the tide will turn faster on gays, because too many of these Repubican politicians are likely to have a gay relative giving them the Stink-eye at Thanksgiving.

 

[JoeB131]

Gay marriage is against my state constitution.

Not sure why you feel a need to keep repeating that.

just embarrasses your state.

Gay marriage will be legal in the whole country within 10 years.

Supreme Court could have set the precedent.

They set it as a state's right.

Not going to change.

Uh, yeah, guy, it probably will. A lot sooner than you think.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not sure why you feel a need to keep repeating that.

just embarrasses your state.

Gay marriage will be legal in the whole country within 10 years.

Supreme Court could have set the precedent.

They set it as a state's right.

Not going to change.

Uh, yeah, guy, it probably will. A lot sooner than you think.

So SCOTUS is going to undue their affirmation of a State's right ?

Based on what ?

 

[JoeB131]

Supreme Court could have set the precedent.

They set it as a state's right.

Not going to change.

Uh, yeah, guy, it probably will. A lot sooner than you think.

So SCOTUS is going to undue their affirmation of a State's right ?

Based on what ?

Based on the fact that the 14th Amendment overrules state constitutions.

The Winsdor decision was pretty much a warning shot across the bow. "These jokers didn't have standing, but if you DO make us rule on this, we're probably going to find for the whole country."

 

[OODA_Loop]

Uh, yeah, guy, it probably will. A lot sooner than you think.

So SCOTUS is going to undue their affirmation of a State's right ?

Based on what ?

Based on the fact that the 14th Amendment overrules state constitutions.

The Winsdor decision was pretty much a warning shot across the bow. "These jokers didn't have standing, but if you DO make us rule on this, we're probably going to find for the whole country."

SCOTUS based the whole DOMA Federal ban decision on the fact marriage purview is a State's right as affirmed in the majority decision.

 

[Seawytch]

Gay marriage is against my state constitution.

Not sure why you feel a need to keep repeating that.

just embarrasses your state.

Gay marriage will be legal in the whole country within 10 years.

Supreme Court could have set the precedent.

They set it as a state's right.

Not going to change.

I see you're still confused about this. They ruled that states have the right to make marriage laws that do not violate the Constitution. They did NOT rule on whether amendments like your state has are in fact Constitutional. Why don't you get that?

 

[JoeB131]

So SCOTUS is going to undue their affirmation of a State's right ?

Based on what ?

Based on the fact that the 14th Amendment overrules state constitutions.

The Winsdor decision was pretty much a warning shot across the bow. "These jokers didn't have standing, but if you DO make us rule on this, we're probably going to find for the whole country."

SCOTUS based the whole DOMA Federal ban decision on the fact marriage purview is a State's right as affirmed in the majority decision.

They only ruled on Section 3 on Windsor. They left Section 2 on States alone- for now. But eventually, they are going to have to rule on whether the Full Faith and Credit clause applies or not. And frankly, that's the problem. DOMA was unconstitutional because it violates the Full Faith and Credit Clause. states have to recognize each other's legal contracts, including marriage.

Correction to my earlier post- In PERRY, they deflected on the federal issue of whether bans on gay marriage are unconstitional. Judge Walker specifically worded his decision to find exactly that, based on previous precedents written by Justice Kennedy. Kennedy in turn decided to punt, because he knew they had him.

One way or the other, gay marriage is coming to the whole country.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not sure why you feel a need to keep repeating that.

just embarrasses your state.

Gay marriage will be legal in the whole country within 10 years.

Supreme Court could have set the precedent.

They set it as a state's right.

Not going to change.

I see you're still confused about this. They ruled that states have the right to make marriage laws that do not violate the Constitution. They did NOT rule on whether amendments like your state has ate in fact Constitutional. Why don't you get that?

Why don't you get that they killed Federal law based on their finding / affirmation that marriage was and always has been a State's right ?

The Constitution being silent on marriage it a 10th Am deal.

Thus a marriage law can not be un-Constitutional.

 

[Seawytch]

Uh, yeah, guy, it probably will. A lot sooner than you think.

So SCOTUS is going to undue their affirmation of a State's right ?

Based on what ?

Based on the fact that the 14th Amendment overrules state constitutions.

The Winsdor decision was pretty much a warning shot across the bow. "These jokers didn't have standing, but if you DO make us rule on this, we're probably going to find for the whole country."

For some reason, he/she seems to think the DOMA ruling made amendments like his/her state has "safe". He doesn't realize that the question as to the Constitutionality of these laws has not been brought before the SCOTUS. It could have if they'd ruled on Prop 8, but they punted.