Gunny
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Mr. P said:Chicken, post it!! So we can bash or give you credit later!![]()
No big deal. I have a feeling that if there IS any looting besides small-time, isolated instances, it wil be in Houston.
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Mr. P said:Chicken, post it!! So we can bash or give you credit later!![]()
dilloduck said:Same with the shelters in Austin's schools--they're full of Mexicans who refuse to speak English but can hold out their hands and say "FEMA". ( They have no problem finding the food either)
Starting a rumor that the INS will start inspecting shelters will clean out the riff-raff in hours.
GunnyL said:The difference is, it never got THIS far in NO. The apparent failing to disaster evacuation plans, at least as far as the Texas Gulf Coast is concerned is that the highway infrastructure and availability of gasoline does not support the current population.
The people who stayed in Texas coastal cities did so because they either decided to, or physically could not get out. This as opposed to those in NO who never considered attempting to get themselves out.
rcajun90 said:Well this is one thing that Texas can learn from New Orleans. After the nightmare of traffic from Ivan last year, New Orleans had a contra flow plan on I-10 that worked pretty well. They opened all four lanes west to allow 100's of thousands of people to leave in a pretty ordely fashion. I didn't hear of anyone being stranded due to gasoline shortages. Now with the Houston and Galveston area you are talking millions so even with contra flow it may have been grid lock. Another thing that the New Orleans metro area did to lessen the grid lock is they called for evacuations one parish at a time starting with the lowest lying parishes first. That must have been a miserable
experience for those folks in Texas. You are in grid lock, running out of gas with your kids in the back.
The people in New Orleans that didn't get out didn't want to until they got scared. The Superdome was suppose to be only for the disabled and handicapped yet some people actually drove to the dome and parked their cars.
sitarro said:Reports are saying that close to three million people fled any idea how much gas that is. If you have an average of 4 to a car and those cars are averaging 10 miles(with airconditioning running and the cars not moving that is probably generous) to the gallon that is 750,000 cars and 37,500,000 gallons just to get out of Houston to Huntsville. A typical fuel station holds maybe 8,000 gallons altogether, if that much, so you would need 4,687 stations full just to handle the evaquatees. That doesn't leave any for regular traffic that stayed around. That is 15,000 fuel trucks that hold 2500 gallons each.
Blame the greedy asshole public for this type of shit. The Houston mayor did have an evacuation plan that was staggered according to zones the public didn't pay attention to it. I fly a lot, everytime we board an airplane they call out boarding by sections of rows from back to front, have you ever seen that work? That is only 130 people not a couple of million.
When a flight comes in late and there are passengers needing to connect the flight attendants will make an announcement to ask for those that don't have a connecting flight to stay seated and let the others in need deplane, I have never seen that work, ever! I am usually the last person off of the plane, I always have baggage so I know that it doesn't matter how late I get off, I will still be waiting at the baggage carrousel.That it just how it is the public are generally rude, discusting assholes that only think of themselves and that is when there is no pressure..
Texas doesn't have anything to learn from Louisiana.
rcajun90 said:Your hatred for Louisiana has been obvious since Katrnia. I know you said you went to USL but surely you have no compassion for your home state. Thats your problem not mine. If you let your rational mind listen you might see what Im trying to say. Yes evacuating millions instead of thousands brings a whole new set of problems in shear numbers. However if Texas would have evacuated in stages like Louisiana (the state police would turn you around if they caught you leaving to early from a parish that didnt yet have a mandatory evacuation) and used contra flow, surely the highways wouldnt have been crowded and perhaps they could have replenished the gas stations in-between the evacuations. Perhaps have the National Guard bring in trucks and also randomly check peoples I.D. to see what counties they are coming from. Yes the public seldom does what it suppose to do no matter where you are from but if the word got out that they would be turned around, it might have helped. Didnt you say in an earlier post that you would never evacuate again? I guess you are going to become one of those that dont follow the rules. I believe we can all learn something new and something from each other. Im sure that you went through what must have been a bit of hell. Im sorry you and millions had to go through that. Im glad that Rita spared the Houston and Galveston area of a direct hit and you are safe. Please reconsider your stance if asked to evacuate again with a cat. 4 or 5 bearing down on the Texas coast. My cousin stayed in Lake Charles for Rita and now he has tree in his house with no power and he is waiting for FEMA to arrive so he can eat. I said a while back that these things bring out the best and worst in people. Im sorry you experienced the worst. My neighbors and I (some people I had never meet) got together with chainsaws and rakes to clear each others yards.