Rolling Stone Exposes Bain and Romney...

[freedombecki]

A great article on how Mitt Romney really made his money. Screwing working folks and leaving others with the bill.

And this is where we get to the hypocrisy at the heart of Mitt Romney. Everyone knows that he is fantastically rich, having scored great success, the legend goes, as a "turnaround specialist," a shrewd financial operator who revived moribund companies as a high-priced consultant for a storied Wall Street private equity firm. But what most voters don't know is the way Mitt Romney actually made his fortune: by borrowing vast sums of money that other people were forced to pay back. This is the plain, stark reality that has somehow eluded America's top political journalists for two consecutive presidential campaigns: Mitt Romney is one of the greatest and most irresponsible debt creators of all time. In the past few decades, in fact, Romney has piled more debt onto more unsuspecting companies, written more gigantic checks that other people have to cover, than perhaps all but a handful of people on planet Earth.



Read more: Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital | Politics News | Rolling Stone

From your aggressively hostile link:

self-righteously anal

That shows a little bias, dear, and it's most Freudian, too.

 

[Barb]

The critics couldn't be more wrong. Mitt Romney is no tissue-paper man. He's closer to being a revolutionary, a backward-world version of Che or Trotsky, with tweezed nostrils instead of a beard, a half-Windsor instead of a leather jerkin. His legendary flip-flops aren't the lies of a bumbling opportunist – they're the confident prevarications of a man untroubled by misleading the nonbeliever in pursuit of a single, all-consuming goal. Romney has a vision, and he's trying for something big: We've just been too slow to sort out what it is, just as we've been slow to grasp the roots of the radical economic changes that have swept the country in the last generation.

Read more: Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital | Politics News | Rolling Stone

And THAT'S the truth.

 

[CandySlice]

So what they are saying is that Romney understands how business works and was a very successful businessman.

Awesome! Sounds like the kinda guy we need to clean up Obama's (who knows nothing about business) mess.

Agreed. Somebody has to get this country back on track and it sure isn't gonna be Obama. He's had 4 years to get us moving again and so far. . .nothing. People are afraid of this guy (Obama) and won't make a move because they don't know what he's going to do next. I'll take a businessman over a community organizer everytime. No business goes on forever without lawsuits, accusations and bad decisions. The bottom line is Bain put food on the table for a lot of people and Demoocrats do NOT like that. The bigger the welfare cases and the dumber people are the better they like it.

 

[JoeB131]

A great article on how Mitt Romney really made his money. Screwing working folks and leaving others with the bill.

And this is where we get to the hypocrisy at the heart of Mitt Romney. Everyone knows that he is fantastically rich, having scored great success, the legend goes, as a "turnaround specialist," a shrewd financial operator who revived moribund companies as a high-priced consultant for a storied Wall Street private equity firm. But what most voters don't know is the way Mitt Romney actually made his fortune: by borrowing vast sums of money that other people were forced to pay back. This is the plain, stark reality that has somehow eluded America's top political journalists for two consecutive presidential campaigns: Mitt Romney is one of the greatest and most irresponsible debt creators of all time. In the past few decades, in fact, Romney has piled more debt onto more unsuspecting companies, written more gigantic checks that other people have to cover, than perhaps all but a handful of people on planet Earth.



Read more: Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital | Politics News | Rolling Stone

From your aggressively hostile link:

self-righteously anal

That shows a little bias, dear, and it's most Freudian, too.

So wow, you manged to focus on three words in a 5000 word essay.

Now if you could just comprehend the other 4997, that would be a trick.

How about this. One of the rationalizations Romney gives for being a "Turnaround Artist" is the 2002 Olympics. But at the end of the day, he still needed to get a 1.5 BILLION dollar subsidy from the Federal Government to finance it. More than all other Olympics held in the US combined, including Summer Olympics in LA in 1984 and Atlanta in 1996.

 

[JoeB131]

So what they are saying is that Romney understands how business works and was a very successful businessman.

Awesome! Sounds like the kinda guy we need to clean up Obama's (who knows nothing about business) mess.

Agreed. Somebody has to get this country back on track and it sure isn't gonna be Obama. He's had 4 years to get us moving again and so far. . .nothing. People are afraid of this guy (Obama) and won't make a move because they don't know what he's going to do next. I'll take a businessman over a community organizer everytime. No business goes on forever without lawsuits, accusations and bad decisions. The bottom line is Bain put food on the table for a lot of people and Demoocrats do NOT like that. The bigger the welfare cases and the dumber people are the better they like it.

Bain tookt he food off of a lot of people's tables... This is where I think you are mixed up. A lot of people lost their jobs, their health insurance and their pensions because Bain looted their companies. That was the point of the article.

Oh, as for "businessman Presidents". George W. Bush was a businessman. Herbert Hoover was a businessman. C'Thulhu save us from "businessmen" in the White House.

 

[paulitician]

Rolling Stone is just another sad & pathetic example of the aged Dinosaur Liberal Media. Their Democrat = Good/Republican = Bad propaganda really is pretty lame. I'm actually very surprised people still read it. What can they gain from reading it at this point? It's only saying the same ole predictibale Bullshite. I just don't get their readers.

 

[Toro]

"wwwwwaaaaaah, why do you hate me for messing up everyone's life."

You guys caused the problem. if you were the only guys who got hurt, it wouldn't be an issue.

Unfortunately, everyone got hurt by your greed and your recklessness.

In an ideal world, you'd be laying low...

^^^^^^^^^^
Bigot's a-hatin'!

"Kill all dem *******! Dey's all guilty!"

So how many of your fellows have you turned in to the SEC for their criminality?

Or did you all shut up faster than the Mafia... nobody saw nuthin'

Yeah, that's right Joe. I saw some guy pick up $100 million in small unmarked bills in paper bags just lying around the hallway.

For someone with such strong opinions, its amazing how ignorant you are about this subject. That must be why you write such nonsense.

 

[bripat9643]

Guy, enough. I'm sure you think what you do is really important and really right, but the rest of us have had enough of working ourselves to death to finance your greed.

What does Toro's occupation have to do with any of this?

 

[bripat9643]

other peoples money.

Yeah, so? So now borrowing money is a crime?

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, that's right Joe. I saw some guy pick up $100 million in small unmarked bills in paper bags just lying around the hallway.

For someone with such strong opinions, its amazing how ignorant you are about this subject. That must be why you write such nonsense.

Hey, I say throw a few of them in big-boy prison, and we'll be amazed how much better their memories get...

 

[Toro]

Guy, enough. I'm sure you think what you do is really important and really right, but the rest of us have had enough of working ourselves to death to finance your greed.

What does Toro's occupation have to do with any of this?

Especially when he doesn't know what I do. He just sees "finance" and thinks "bad."

 

[bripat9643]

The critics couldn't be more wrong. Mitt Romney is no tissue-paper man. He's closer to being a revolutionary, a backward-world version of Che or Trotsky, with tweezed nostrils instead of a beard, a half-Windsor instead of a leather jerkin. His legendary flip-flops aren't the lies of a bumbling opportunist – they're the confident prevarications of a man untroubled by misleading the nonbeliever in pursuit of a single, all-consuming goal. Romney has a vision, and he's trying for something big: We've just been too slow to sort out what it is, just as we've been slow to grasp the roots of the radical economic changes that have swept the country in the last generation.

Read more: Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital | Politics News | Rolling Stone

And THAT'S the truth.

We've already proven that the article is one big pile of horse squeeze.

 

[Toro]

Yeah, that's right Joe. I saw some guy pick up $100 million in small unmarked bills in paper bags just lying around the hallway.

For someone with such strong opinions, its amazing how ignorant you are about this subject. That must be why you write such nonsense.

Hey, I say throw a few of them in big-boy prison, and we'll be amazed how much better their memories get...

If I see them taking all those unmarked bills, I will report them.

 

[bripat9643]

Bain tookt he food off of a lot of people's tables... This is where I think you are mixed up. A lot of people lost their jobs, their health insurance and their pensions because Bain looted their companies. That was the point of the article. .

That's Democrat propaganda.

Oh, as for "businessman Presidents". George W. Bush was a businessman. Herbert Hoover was a businessman. C'Thulhu save us from "businessmen" in the White House.

I'll agree with you that being a businessman doesn't necessarily make you a good President. However, being a Marxist community organizer obviously makes you a bad one. Destroying businesses is the principle occupation of community organizers.

 

[Desperado]

Seriously?????
Rolling Stone lost it's credibility 20 years ago."
Today they are as credible as the "Weekly World News"

 

[JoeB131]

Rolling Stone is just another sad & pathetic example of the aged Dinosaur Liberal Media. Their Democrat = Good/Republican = Bad propaganda really is pretty lame. I'm actually very surprised people still read it. What can they gain from reading it at this point? It's only saying the same ole predictibale Bullshite. I just don't get their readers.

Did you actually read the article?

 

[paulitician]

Seriously?????
Rolling Stone lost it's credibility 20 years ago."
Today they are as credible as the "Weekly World News"

Yeah, them and their rapidly dwindling number of readers still believe they're hip and relevant. It's actually pretty pathetic.

 

[freedombecki]

A great article on how Mitt Romney really made his money. Screwing working folks and leaving others with the bill.

From your aggressively hostile link:

self-righteously anal

That shows a little bias, dear, and it's most Freudian, too.

So wow, you manged to focus on three words in a 5000 word essay.

Now if you could just comprehend the other 4997, that would be a trick.

How about this. One of the rationalizations Romney gives for being a "Turnaround Artist" is the 2002 Olympics. But at the end of the day, he still needed to get a 1.5 BILLION dollar subsidy from the Federal Government to finance it. More than all other Olympics held in the US combined, including Summer Olympics in LA in 1984 and Atlanta in 1996.

The Democrat Party spin machine never stops. In 1999, they took a Convicted Criminal's book (JHHatfield, who attempted to murder his boss with a car bomb,) and used it for a DNC Platform for (1) Gore in e2000, (2) Kerry in e2004, and (3) Obama in e2008. It's still a lie, but people still quote the "knowledge" they gained from this criminal's 200 pages of lies, all gleaned from his imagination and hostility that Bush did not pardon him for attempting to murder his boss so he could get out of jail free and try again.

This business of Bail and Romney was thoroughly discredited last year, yet, here you Demmies are, rattling the cage with another quasi-factual claim which is in its entirety, just another lie.

How do I know it was discredited? Because the DNC can't shut everybody up who wrote about it, and that has me all choked up.
Romney Hits Obama Camp Over Discredited Attacks, AP Oddly Silent on Facts Townhall, July 2012

The good news for Romney is that he's telling the truth and his opponents are not. To their credit, many in the mainstream media seem to be reporting that fact [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXHZNyy4oQo&feature=player_embedded"]relatively fairly[/ame]. The bad news is that other partisan operatives posing as journalists are working overtime to conceal the facts. Take, for instance, Jim Kuhnhenn of the Associated Press, whose story on this controversy is a luminous beacon of journalistic malpractice: (see link, it's too long to put here)


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This is a long story, but to make it short, it has backing:

Both the New York Times ("indeed, no evidence has yet emerged that Mr. Romney exercised his powers at Bain after February 1999 or directed the funds’ investments after he left") and the patron saint of liberal journalism, Bob Woodward ("demonstrated pretty conclusively that Romney didn't have his fingerprints on this particular period"), have sided with Romney on the facts. Undeterred, DWS is repeating the "felony" line.


(rest of story at link)
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Joe, please quit posting lies that rabid and aggressive journalists are using and when questioned say something ironic like "It's hyperbole--can't YOU PEOPLE take a joke?"


Calumny is never a joke.

 

[Barb]

"Paul Ryan has become an intellectual leader of the Republican Party," Romney told frenzied Republican supporters in Norfolk, Virginia, standing before the reliably jingoistic backdrop of a floating warship. "He understands the fiscal challenges facing America: our exploding deficits and crushing debt."

Debt, debt, debt. If the Republican Party had a James Carville, this is what he would have said to win Mitt over, in whatever late-night war room session led to the Ryan pick: "It's the debt, stupid." This is the way to defeat Barack Obama: to recast the race as a jeremiad against debt, something just about everybody who's ever gotten a bill in the mail hates on a primal level.

Read more: Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital | Politics News | Rolling Stone

And in all the rational discussion, the grown up talk about priorities and truly rational self interest is this, what is hated "on a primal level."

THAT is the level most people vote from. As sad and counterproductive as that fact is, it is also true. In the age of mass media instructing mass culture, I'm not even sure if it's reversible.

This, the capitalization of the knee jerk reaction is where the republicans have it ALL OVER the democrats, because they studied that shit, they INVESTED in those studies, and they funded right wing think tanks and their talking points for since before Nixon lost in the first televised election.

If I could be granted just one wish, I would give up the bubble wrap for my kids to see Americans as the informed and involved electorate that made this representative electorate possible in the first place, with ALL of the contractions that took place expanding the word "all" to each and every one of us.

Barring that...fuck you all. I WILL take care of my own.

 

[JoeB131]

The Democrat Party spin machine never stops. In 1999, they took a Convicted Criminal's book (JHHatfield, who attempted to murder his boss with a car bomb,) and used it for a DNC Platform for (1) Gore in e2000, (2) Kerry in e2004, and (3) Obama in e2008. It's still a lie, but people still quote the "knowledge" they gained from this criminal's 200 pages of lies, all gleaned from his imagination and hostility that Bush did not pardon him for attempting to murder his boss so he could get out of jail free and try again.

Hey, you have to admire a man who tries to live the American dream!

This business of Bail and Romney was thoroughly discredited last year, yet, here you Demmies are, rattling the cage with another quasi-factual claim which is in its entirety, just another lie.

How do I know it was discredited? Because the DNC can't shut everybody up who wrote about it, and that has me all choked up.

Not a Democrat.... I just really, really hate Mitt Romney.

But the fact is, this Bain Stuff has been out there since 1994, and Romney still doesn't have a good accounting for himself... other than, "Well, all those lives I've messed up, that's just business."

(rest of story at link)
[/INDENT]Joe, please quit posting lies that rabid and aggressive journalists are using and when questioned say something ironic like "It's hyperbole--can't YOU PEOPLE take a joke?"

Calumny is never a joke.

No, it isn't. Neither is people dying because Romney cut off their health insurance to make a quick buck.

To me, this isn't about politics. I've voted for Republicans in the past when I thought they were good people.

Mitt Romney is a terrible person. He really doesn't think he did anything wrong at Bain.