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If you eat with Jesus and you do so and do such in an unworthy manner you bring upon yourself condemnation. i.e. those who have fallen away to given themselves over too whatever it may be in their sinful nature, harsh judgments, etc...., "pastor exposed".People who believe yet fail to follow. Eating from the tree of life and then remaining in sin, falling away from truth or denying truth after accepting it.
So, i was raised in a hyper-Christian home, and actually believed it when I was young. I did the whole accept Jesus and baptism routine. Then I grew up and realized it was all nonsense.
So you're saying that I am in misery?
Please explain?
...you can focus on whatever aspects you want; doesn't make it true. Do you love only half of God? God is judge just as much as Savior. Catholics like yourself want the feely good cotton candy milktoast religion...which sends people to hell.
If you eat with Jesus and you do so and do such in an unworthy manner you bring upon yourself condemnation. i.e. those who have fallen away to given themselves over too whatever it may be in their sinful nature, harsh judgments, etc...., "pastor exposed".
Is that a good enough explanation for you?
Why is it so wrong if someone doesn't believe? You have to admit if I told you about virgin births and talking snakes, you'd think I was crazy.People who believe yet fail to follow. Eating from the tree of life and then remaining in sin, falling away from truth or denying truth after accepting it.Maybe another decade and he would speak back. LOL.That thought does not occur to many atheist and asking for help to understand does not occur to many who are saved yet in misery. Even if they do ask many ask in error or are impatient.How do you know God is real?Christ commissioned his followers to proclaim the good news, not to threaten the world with damnation. The Catholic Church considers it spreading Christ's teachings a serious responsibility/commission that is expected of the Church and its members.
Here is where the line is drawn: God is not bound by human failure. Anyone the Church fails to reach or convert is entrusted to God's love and mercy. It is a situation of, "Here is what we were able to do, and we trust you, God, with our failures." The Catholic Church teaches that those of other faiths--or no faith--are not just in God's hands, but the loving hands of God.
I asked Him.
Saved yet in misery? What the hell is that?
Why is it so wrong if someone doesn't believe? You have to admit if I told you about virgin births and talking snakes, you'd think I was crazy.People who believe yet fail to follow. Eating from the tree of life and then remaining in sin, falling away from truth or denying truth after accepting it.Maybe another decade and he would speak back. LOL.That thought does not occur to many atheist and asking for help to understand does not occur to many who are saved yet in misery. Even if they do ask many ask in error or are impatient.How do you know God is real?
I asked Him.
Saved yet in misery? What the hell is that?
Do you think your way is the only way? It isn't the first or even the last.
I thought we are all sinners? Are you saying you are without sin? So you are a hypocrite.
What is truth? An ancient story your parents brainwashed you with from birth? I accepted Jesus into my heart before I knew any better. Now I realize that was just a story. No one has ever seen god. Moses was a nut or a liar.
Booboo I do not have time to piss with you at the moment so you'll have to figure that all out on your own.Why is it so wrong if someone doesn't believe? You have to admit if I told you about virgin births and talking snakes, you'd think I was crazy.People who believe yet fail to follow. Eating from the tree of life and then remaining in sin, falling away from truth or denying truth after accepting it.Maybe another decade and he would speak back. LOL.That thought does not occur to many atheist and asking for help to understand does not occur to many who are saved yet in misery. Even if they do ask many ask in error or are impatient.How do you know God is real?
I asked Him.
Saved yet in misery? What the hell is that?
Do you think your way is the only way? It isn't the first or even the last.
I thought we are all sinners? Are you saying you are without sin? So you are a hypocrite.
What is truth? An ancient story your parents brainwashed you with from birth? I accepted Jesus into my heart before I knew any better. Now I realize that was just a story. No one has ever seen god. Moses was a nut or a liar.
You know................I've thought about this a bit more and have come up with an interesting thought....................
One of God's greatest gifts to mankind was the gift of free will, meaning we could choose to follow Him, or we can choose to follow something else.
Any religion that is going to restrict the free will God gives me by telling me that there is only one dogma is a "false" religion, because God isn't going to restrict what I do, He just hopes that I do right by following His Commandments.
And it's not that hard to do, even if you don't believe the Christian or Catholic dogma.
Born again and Catholics each say they are the one true religion. What are the differences, what is wrong with the one you don't belong to. Like, if you are a Catholic, what is wrong with the born again slant?By Stephen Meehan
If grace is unmerited favor and is freely given by God, how can one then co-operate or work alongside with it to receive it? Co-operating with grace would nullify grace; it wouldn’t be freely received.
Their works for attaining salvation include: Going to weekly Mass; partaking of the sacraments; paying a penalty or penance for one’s sins (which denies the sufficiency of Christ’s death on the cross to cover all sins); and then finally spending time in a fictitious place called Purgatory, to purge away any leftover sins that Christ’s blood couldn’t cover, or not enough penance was performed.
Purgatory is just another means of denying the sufficiency of Christ’s atonement for our sins; it is the ultimate declaration that His agonizing crucifixion on a wooden cross—the plan of salvation that was established before the foundation of the world was laid, was not enough to pay the cost of all of our sins.
In other words, when Christ uttered those final words, “It is finished” signifying that He had satisfied the wrath of God against us for the sins we have committed and that all our sins were “paid in full.” Rome declares that no, it is not finished and the paying of penances and time spent in Purgatory is required. It is a rejection of what Christ accomplished.
great article.. please read the full one.
Born again and Catholics each say they are the one true religion. What are the differences, what is wrong with the one you don't belong to. Like, if you are a Catholic, what is wrong with the born again slant?
And if you are a born again, what are you doing better/differently? What are some of the reasons you would never be a Catholic? Because they worship the Pope? That's why us Greek Orthodox left them too, among other reasons. I think we understood the Catholic Church is corrupt. If only we realized they made up god in the first place. Or the Jesus story because actually it was the Jews who invented the Moses Abrahamic God.
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Born again and Catholics each say they are the one true religion. What are the differences, what is wrong with the one you don't belong to. Like, if you are a Catholic, what is wrong with the born again slant?
And if you are a born again, what are you doing better/differently? What are some of the reasons you would never be a Catholic? Because they worship the Pope? That's why us Greek Orthodox left them too, among other reasons. I think we understood the Catholic Church is corrupt. If only we realized they made up god in the first place. Or the Jesus story because actually it was the Jews who invented the Moses Abrahamic God.
Catholics do not worship the Pope, never have, and that wasn't the reason for the schism. What, specifically, makes the Catholic Church corrupt? (I keep asking that, but no one is answering!
One of the basic differences I see between Catholics and non-Catholics is the view of God. Many Protestant denominations have doctrine built on the image of a wrathful God. They see God as becoming so angered by sin, it was necessary to kill Jesus to pacify that fury.
Catholics emphasize a loving God, who wanted to draw us--and the way we live our lives here on earth--closer to the way of heaven.
As you don't believe in God, let's take it back to the life of Jesus. Do you see Jesus's life as being motivated by love and obedience, or do you see the motivation as tremendous anger he was determined to deflect?
I think Jesus would tell Christians today the same thing he told the Jews back then. You've all lost sight of the point. You're all hypocrites.Born again and Catholics each say they are the one true religion. What are the differences, what is wrong with the one you don't belong to. Like, if you are a Catholic, what is wrong with the born again slant?
And if you are a born again, what are you doing better/differently? What are some of the reasons you would never be a Catholic? Because they worship the Pope? That's why us Greek Orthodox left them too, among other reasons. I think we understood the Catholic Church is corrupt. If only we realized they made up god in the first place. Or the Jesus story because actually it was the Jews who invented the Moses Abrahamic God.
Catholics do not worship the Pope, never have, and that wasn't the reason for the schism. What, specifically, makes the Catholic Church corrupt? (I keep asking that, but no one is answering!
One of the basic differences I see between Catholics and non-Catholics is the view of God. Many Protestant denominations have doctrine built on the image of a wrathful God. They see God as becoming so angered by sin, it was necessary to kill Jesus to pacify that fury.
Catholics emphasize a loving God, who wanted to draw us--and the way we live our lives here on earth--closer to the way of heaven.
As you don't believe in God, let's take it back to the life of Jesus. Do you see Jesus's life as being motivated by love and obedience, or do you see the motivation as tremendous anger he was determined to deflect?
What was the point of your ancestors dying 2000 years ago? Why don't you worry about the purpose of you own life?If being saved has nothing to do with doing good works, then what is the point of Christianity?
if doing good works get you saved whats the point of Jesus dying and rising?
You need faith and good works. Read this, which comes from the Bible you claim to believe in:If being saved has nothing to do with doing good works, then what is the point of Christianity?
if doing good works get you saved whats the point of Jesus dying and rising?
I know what my purpose is.What was the point of your ancestors dying 2000 years ago? Why don't you worry about the purpose of you own life?If being saved has nothing to do with doing good works, then what is the point of Christianity?
if doing good works get you saved whats the point of Jesus dying and rising?
So does a suicide bomber.I know what my purpose is.What was the point of your ancestors dying 2000 years ago? Why don't you worry about the purpose of you own life?If being saved has nothing to do with doing good works, then what is the point of Christianity?
if doing good works get you saved whats the point of Jesus dying and rising?
You need faith and good works. Read this, which comes from the Bible you claim to believe in:If being saved has nothing to do with doing good works, then what is the point of Christianity?
if doing good works get you saved whats the point of Jesus dying and rising?
James 2:14-26 New Living Translation (NLT)
Faith without Good Deeds Is Dead
14 What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone? 15 Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, 16 and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
17 So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless.
18 Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”
19 You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. 20 How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?
21 Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete.23 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God. 24 So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
25 Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 26 Just as the body is dead without breath, so also faith is dead without good works.
Bible Gateway passage: James 2:14-26 - New Living Translation
