San Fran City sues Trumper admin over sanctuary cities

[OKTexas]

City Of San Francisco Sues Trump Administration | Hoodline

The strategy, I think, is to drag this out and protect immigrants until Trump is impeached, leaves office, or dies normally, which ever comes first.

"Protect immigrants'? Can we at least be honest here and stipulate that we're NOT talking about those who went through the process of immigrating legally to this country and have no need to fear the INS? Please?

Deport the violent criminals, and leave the children citizens with their families alone. The vast number of Americans do not agree with you.

Fuck'em, they put themselves in their predicament, they can take responsibility for and the consequences of their decisions. They are all criminals.

Nope, and the consequence will be the citizens and most of their relatives will stay. Do you think the great majority of the citizens are going to let you addle brained freeks have you way?

You're forgetting one little detail fakey, the LAW is on our side, it takes your flaky emotions out of the equation.

 

[oreo]

I imagine San Francisco will win this suit. "Sanctuary Cities" have not been legally "defined" by congress. Congress first has to define what a Sanctuary City is--guidelines for being classified as a Sanctuary city--and that has yet to be done.

So if there is any financial harm done to San Francisco prior to this process, then the courts will come back and make the Federal Government PAY, (meaning YOU) for any damages.

It's the equivalent of you getting pulled over and a cop fines you for something and there's no recorded LAW that you broke. And if your car was impounded, broken into and trashed during the process guess who would be responsible for it?

Active imagination there moron. It breaks existing federal law, end of story, since they admit breaking it in the suit.

Congress has to DEFINE what a Sanctuary City is. Then they have to come up with their own laws regarding what they're going to do with a Sanctuary city.

This is what Trump's executive order is about. I am going to reduce funding to Sanctuary cities so they can pay for the WALL.

There is nothing in this executive order that says well San Francisco failed to do this or that, so I am going to do this.

Now you take this to court, and then try to switch your position into something that was never written, and see how far you go with it--LOL

Your ass would get booted so far & fast out of court it wouldn't be funny. If there is any financial damage done to San Francisco, the Judge may not only order full payment back, but also damages for legal fees, assessments for being stupid, and everything else that comes with it. The taxpayers of this country would have to pay for it.

This executive order was nothing more than a Hail Mary send a tingley feeling up my caving in ratings. Nothing more than to throw a bone to the Comrade's base of support, and clearly it worked.

 

[jasonnfree]

I imagine San Francisco will win this suit. "Sanctuary Cities" have not been legally "defined" by congress. Congress first has to define what a Sanctuary City is--guidelines for being classified as a Sanctuary city--and that has yet to be done.

So if there is any financial harm done to San Francisco prior to this process, then the courts will come back and make the Federal Government PAY, (meaning YOU) for any damages.

It's the equivalent of you getting pulled over and a cop fines you for something and there's no recorded LAW that you broke. And if your car was impounded, broken into and trashed during the process guess who would be responsible for it?

Active imagination there moron. It breaks existing federal law, end of story, since they admit breaking it in the suit.

Congress has to DEFINE what a Sanctuary City is. Then they have to come up with their own laws regarding what they're going to do with a Sanctuary city.

This is what Trump's executive order is about. I am going to reduce funding to Sanctuary cities so they can pay for the WALL.

There is nothing in this executive order that says well San Francisco failed to do this or that, so I am going to do this.

Now you take this to court, and then try to switch your position into something that was never written, and see how far you go with it--LOL

Your ass would get booted so far & fast out of court it wouldn't be funny. If there is any financial damage done to San Francisco, the Judge may not only order full payment back, but also damages for legal fees, assessments for being stupid, and everything else that comes with it. The taxpayers of this country would have to pay for it.

This executive order was nothing more than a Hail Mary send a tingley feeling up my caving in ratings. Nothing more than to throw a bone to the Comrade's base of support, and clearly it worked.

Sanctuary cities protect known criminals who are in this country illegally. Attitudes like yours is one of the reasons so many of us sane white folks abandoned the nut job insane demorat party for Trump.

 

[saveliberty]

SF maintains they are in compliance with the law. There is no requirement in the law for local police to investigate, question immigration status, or maintain any records of such. If the federal government wants to require that, then congress should put in legislation.

SF admits and promotes itself as a sanctuary city. By your own admission, SF does not hold minor crime illegals. Sure is fun watching you keep up the farce.

 

[saveliberty]

Congress has to DEFINE what a Sanctuary City is. Then they have to come up with their own laws regarding what they're going to do with a Sanctuary city.

This is what Trump's executive order is about. I am going to reduce funding to Sanctuary cities so they can pay for the WALL.

There is nothing in this executive order that says well San Francisco failed to do this or that, so I am going to do this.

Now you take this to court, and then try to switch your position into something that was never written, and see how far you go with it--LOL

Your ass would get booted so far & fast out of court it wouldn't be funny. If there is any financial damage done to San Francisco, the Judge may not only order full payment back, but also damages for legal fees, assessments for being stupid, and everything else that comes with it. The taxpayers of this country would have to pay for it.

This executive order was nothing more than a Hail Mary send a tingley feeling up my caving in ratings. Nothing more than to throw a bone to the Comrade's base of support, and clearly it worked.

SF has already removed the burden of proof by admitting it. Now we just have to wait for the stall tactic to be removed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

City Of San Francisco Sues Trump Administration | Hoodline

The strategy, I think, is to drag this out and protect immigrants until Trump is impeached, leaves office, or dies normally, which ever comes first.

"Protect immigrants'? Can we at least be honest here and stipulate that we're NOT talking about those who went through the process of immigrating legally to this country and have no need to fear the INS? Please?

Deport the violent criminals, and leave the children citizens with their families alone. The vast number of Americans do not agree with you.

Fuck'em, they put themselves in their predicament, they can take responsibility for and the consequences of their decisions. They are all criminals.

Nope, and the consequence will be the citizens and most of their relatives will stay. Do you think the great majority of the citizens are going to let you addle brained freeks have you way?

You're forgetting one little detail fakey, the LAW is on our side, it takes your flaky emotions out of the equation.

Now, oktexasweasel, you are for the law? That's different. The citizen children with their families will be staying if they want.

 

[OKTexas]

"Protect immigrants'? Can we at least be honest here and stipulate that we're NOT talking about those who went through the process of immigrating legally to this country and have no need to fear the INS? Please?

Deport the violent criminals, and leave the children citizens with their families alone. The vast number of Americans do not agree with you.

Fuck'em, they put themselves in their predicament, they can take responsibility for and the consequences of their decisions. They are all criminals.

Nope, and the consequence will be the citizens and most of their relatives will stay. Do you think the great majority of the citizens are going to let you addle brained freeks have you way?

You're forgetting one little detail fakey, the LAW is on our side, it takes your flaky emotions out of the equation.

Now, oktexasweasel, you are for the law? That's different. The citizen children with their families will be staying if they want.

Yeah, and pretty soon you'll be running your computer on fairy dust and unicorn farts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

 

[Frankeneinstein]

God Bless Texas! Abbott is doing the right thing. Next it needs to be done at the Federal level.

In "sanctuary" fight, Abbott cuts off funding to Travis County

In "sanctuary" fight, Abbott cuts off funding to Travis County

Gov. Greg Abbott has followed through on his threat to cut off state funding for Travis County over its new "sanctuary" policy.

This is called a weather balloon...trying it out, if it doesn't blow up on them or the wheels do not come completely off they will examine how it works, align and debug the problems and start using it in other places.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Section 1324 if title 8 of the US code says it's a federal felony to encourage illegals to live here and the mayors of all these sanctuary cities are clearly doing that. Trump needs to makes some arrests and all this nonsense will stop.

The courts have interpreted encourage to mean offer of a job, counseling an illegal immigrant to remain in the country, offer of assistance to evade authorities, etc. If the mayor is guilty then so is anyone who advocates against deportation or amnesty.

The cities by not providing information required by law to ICE are providing assistance in evading authorities. Now they have actually allocated a defense fund to help them do so.

the general government has no police power over the several States.

Only true, national socialists, do that.

Good quote. So I guess when DumBama ordered the defunding of schools who didn't let weirdos into girls locker rooms and showers, that was okay by your standards. That was not a "national socialist" policy.

We have a civil rights act. Only the national socialist right wing, prefers to be illegal to the laws.

What civil rights violation is there when weirdos walking around in women's clothing are forbidden in real women's dressing rooms and showers?

 

[Flopper]

SF maintains they are in compliance with the law. There is no requirement in the law for local police to investigate, question immigration status, or maintain any records of such. If the federal government wants to require that, then congress should put in legislation.

SF admits and promotes itself as a sanctuary city. By your own admission, SF does not hold minor crime illegals. Sure is fun watching you keep up the farce.

The fact that SF claims to be a sanctuary city is meaningless under the law because there is no legal definition as what to what that may actual mean. There are several hundred cities that claim to be salutary cities and the degree of assistance offered to the federal government varies widely. In some cases it's full cooperation and assistance to those that maybe undocumented is assistance in attaining legal representation or notification of family.

SF is not required by federal law to determine their immigration status and is not required to detain them. As with any person being released from jail, they will detain if the court orders it. Participation in the Secure Communities Program is voluntary.

 

[protectionist]

What are they afraid of?

Of losing VOTES (and elections) They are so miserable and unpopular, they have to depend on raking in illegal aliens, in order to get elected.

 

[protectionist]

What civil rights violation is there when weirdos walking around in women's clothing are forbidden in real women's dressing rooms and showers?

There is such a civil rights violation >> in the MINDS of assinine, sex pervert, lunatics.

 

[danielpalos]

The general government is obligated to Pay the Debts, of the several, United States, especially when establishing federal standards.

Feel free to point where the Constitution says that.

Just reading comprehension challenged?

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Now child, read the remainder of Article 1, Section 8 to understand the limiting clauses. They tell you exactly what the authorized expenditures are.

I know what they are. Paying the debts, and providing for the common Defense (not the common Offense), and providing for the general welfare (not the general warfare).

Want to try again?

Which clauses apply to the general welfare and what spending do they authorize?

The getting results like the common defense clause, instead of making excuses about the general welfare part.

 

[danielpalos]

I don't know how much federal aid that California based Universities get but Trump should double down and cut off federal aid to Berkley until they get control over the students.

You can not deprive a state university, or a school district of federal funds because a city in the state refuses to cooperate with the federal government on immigration or because the president just doesn't like what the university is doing.

However, if S.F. refuses to render the specific cooperation specified in federal law, then some funds related to law enforcement could be withheld from the city. What funds are questionable? If an entity, say a school district receives federal funds for a project but fails to do that project or meet the requirements of the project the federal government can be take action. What the federal government can't do is to take funds from a project which is completely unrelated to immigration or from a totally different goverment entity.

But they can withhold money form the schools police departments if they don't comply with federal law.

Why have a war on crime or poverty?

More deflection?

Just "bipolar-ism" from our (expensive) public sectors?

We have a general welfare clause and a commerce clause; what economic paradigm do You think we should be pursuing?

 

[namvet]

City Of San Francisco Sues Trump Administration | Hoodline

The strategy, I think, is to drag this out and protect immigrants until Trump is impeached, leaves office, or dies normally, which ever comes first.

LMAO !!!

 

[danielpalos]

City Of San Francisco Sues Trump Administration | Hoodline

The strategy, I think, is to drag this out and protect immigrants until Trump is impeached, leaves office, or dies normally, which ever comes first.

"Protect immigrants'? Can we at least be honest here and stipulate that we're NOT talking about those who went through the process of immigrating legally to this country and have no need to fear the INS? Please?

Deport the violent criminals, and leave the children citizens with their families alone. The vast number of Americans do not agree with you.

Fuck'em, they put themselves in their predicament, they can take responsibility for and the consequences of their decisions. They are all criminals.

10USC311 is also, federal law; Sanctuary cities may be all that is standing between overturning, DC v. Heller on federal supremacy grounds.

 

[danielpalos]

The courts have interpreted encourage to mean offer of a job, counseling an illegal immigrant to remain in the country, offer of assistance to evade authorities, etc. If the mayor is guilty then so is anyone who advocates against deportation or amnesty.

The cities by not providing information required by law to ICE are providing assistance in evading authorities. Now they have actually allocated a defense fund to help them do so.

the general government has no police power over the several States.

Only true, national socialists, do that.

Good quote. So I guess when DumBama ordered the defunding of schools who didn't let weirdos into girls locker rooms and showers, that was okay by your standards. That was not a "national socialist" policy.

We have a civil rights act. Only the national socialist right wing, prefers to be illegal to the laws.

What civil rights violation is there when weirdos walking around in women's clothing are forbidden in real women's dressing rooms and showers?

StarShip Troopers would not have a problem with it; why should the militia of the United States?

 

[namvet]

dems should have they're own SNL no acting needed since they are all stupid !!!

 

[JakeStarkey]