Darkwind
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The population isn't dying off. It's moving away. When you look at populations that are shrinking, always look at the surrounding areas. People are simply moving away from the assholes.If your city cannot thrive without immigrants, you're doing it wrong.The story of immigrants is a two-way street. We all know about the extremists whose only mission is wreak terror among our population (Just look at London and its mayor Sadiq Khan who is prolly a terrorist himself). These are the immigrants we don't want.
The other side of the coin is non-terror immigrants take jobs that no one else will take. They pile into rental units where others won't rent in order to make things work for themselves. They make money and they spend money. They bring in new types of foods and services. They add to a city's dying population and the cities end up thriving.
Today, we have over 80 sanctuary cities in the US. Most are liberal urban centers. Where I live, it isn't a sanctuary city. The city is modernizing, but its restaurants, businesses, stores and such aren't full. A few places still attract a crowd. Yet, the city isn't thriving even though it's a lead city in a large metropolitan area. An example a big city not thriving would be St. Louis, MO. It has the population and the metropolitan area, but once the workday is over, people go home to their suburban homes.
"More than 80 cities in the United States,[69] including Washington D.C., New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, San Jose, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Detroit, Jersey City, Minneapolis, Miami, Denver, Baltimore, Seattle, Portland, Oregon and Portland, Maine, have sanctuary policies, which vary locally.[70] "
Immigration to the United States - Wikipedia
Illegals bring no value to any city.
Immigrants should be an enhancement to your way of life and what your city is doing, not the be all, end all of your city.
>>If your city cannot thrive without immigrants, you're doing it wrong.
Illegals bring no value to any city.
Immigrants should be an enhancement to your way of life and what your city is doing, not the be all, end all of your city.<<
My point would be your city and metro area cannot thrive without immigrants. It's not reasonable to expect such pop growth when people die daily. Your pop would go down instead of up. I don't think birth rates can keep up. Unless you can lure jobs to your area due to other reasons than increase in population, then I don't think you can spur growth.
I looked up St. Louis in my census link. It's pop has gone down and the city reflects its dying state. Didn't they just lose an NFL team? I saw stores close early and not many patrons in their restaurants and stores that open at night. I didn't even think to go drinking and clubbing there, but patronized the hotel bar.
Another non-sanctuary city, in California where I live, that I am looking at is Sacramento. It's downtown isn't as bad as St. Louis, but it's not thriving either. I compared it to San Jose, CA which is thriving in comparison. It's very noticeable.
A city should always be able to sustain itslef without immigraion first. Immigration is necessary, but not for that reason.
Of course, My statement about illegals remains true. They bring zero value to any community.