SmokeALib
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Fuck Saudi Arabia.
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We would have less dependence on oil if repubs would stop supporting it like they do.Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?
I mean Obama's America as much as anyone's.
Fuck Saudi Arabia.
Is there any doubt that Trump's financial interests have an impact on his judgment concerning foreign governments like Saudi Arabia?
Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?
We use our own oil?
Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?
We use our own oil?
It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?
We use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.
We use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
Hell yes! Iran is their worst fear. Our worst fear is bad economy look how people here are saying they got us by the balls by stroking our worst fear. Lets not panic, we stroke saudi fear they panic more. There governemnt is not as stable as ours. Oil is all they got fear of the Iranians coming and taking it will destabalize the kingdom. I would have a team of diplomats in Iran today if for nothing more than just a bluff, they did not act as I want it would no longer be a bluff. This would also plaquate a few of our allies that are not happy about our pulling out of the Iran deal.It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?
We use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
Just the threat of it could force the Saudis to back off.
Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?
We use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
Hell yes! Iran is their worst fear. Our worst fear is bad economy look how people here are saying they got us by the balls by stroking our worst fear. Lets not panic, we stroke saudi fear they panic more. There governemnt is not as stable as ours. Oil is all they got fear of the Iranians coming and taking it will destabalize the kingdom. I would have a team of diplomats in Iran today if for nothing more than just a bluff, they did not act as I want it would no longer be a bluff. This would also plaquate a few of our allies that are not happy about our pulling out of the Iran deal.It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullWe use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
Just the threat of it could force the Saudis to back off.
Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.
We use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
I'm guessing it's because we're also one of the worlds largest consumers of oil too. Not to mention the fact that the Arab desert sands have cheap, easily extracted oil and we don't
btw we can and do influence the market. When we increase our production we cut down on our imports. That can create a glut of oil and drive prices down. The Oil Patch didn't like that........
I tell you what I am getting tired of fucking around in the middle east may be if the next time we take down a governement we should just keep the land. I hate to sound like an imperialist but with china building islands and russia anexing at some point the west is going to have to start playing by the same rules. We and our allies have spent alot of blood sweat and tears in the middle east and the shit just continues.Hell yes! Iran is their worst fear. Our worst fear is bad economy look how people here are saying they got us by the balls by stroking our worst fear. Lets not panic, we stroke saudi fear they panic more. There governemnt is not as stable as ours. Oil is all they got fear of the Iranians coming and taking it will destabalize the kingdom. I would have a team of diplomats in Iran today if for nothing more than just a bluff, they did not act as I want it would no longer be a bluff. This would also plaquate a few of our allies that are not happy about our pulling out of the Iran deal.It would take governmental control of oil price with in America for it to work. Allowing that slipperry sloap to happen is more dangerous than showing a willingness to deal with Iran. Do you want the government to start setting prices on goods and products? You want Socialism or communism to start and take hold that is a big first step towards it. Again diplomatic threats of siding with Iran should be enough to make the Saudis behave. The situation is not as hopeless as it appears. All it takes is to show a willingness to change directions in accordance with facts on the ground. Lets face it, siding with the Saudis or Iran are always a nessecary evil, we have to show them we are able to choose which evil is less at any given point in time. We need to look at those countries as pure buisness and make them constantly ask " What they have done for us lately?" They are pretty much bad actors all the time we reward the least bad actor.Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfull
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
Just the threat of it could force the Saudis to back off.
Yep...the Saudis have nothing to fall back on.
Being a one dimensional economy leaves them vulnerable.
We'd just have to get nasty about it.
Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?
We use our own oil?
That is what the real estate bubble did to me. Diversify or die should be our battle cry!Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?
We use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
I'm guessing it's because we're also one of the worlds largest consumers of oil too. Not to mention the fact that the Arab desert sands have cheap, easily extracted oil and we don't
btw we can and do influence the market. When we increase our production we cut down on our imports. That can create a glut of oil and drive prices down. The Oil Patch didn't like that........
I lost a shitload during the eighties from that shit.
We've since diversified as has the city of Houston and Texas in general
Ya when gas is ten dollars a gallon at the pump it will seem real smart./Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?/----/ The USA is the #1 producer of oil. ANd NG is quickly taking over. Saudis need us more than we need them.Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?
We use our own oil?
It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations
I agree. Don't cut them, eliminate them.
Using our own oil does not change world supply./ World supply dicatates the price of oil. With out government price fixing of private industries the price of oil still rises. The oil companies are not going to just forfet profits this is a free economy. It is now looking extremely stupid cutting gas milage regulations Our best bet to hedge this off is to show saudi arabia a willingness to deal with Iran and put thier oil back on the market. That would have a double effect on saudi not only would they be losing money and their arch enemy sitting right beside them get enriched./ We have a rock and hard place to put them between also. The other thing we can start soing is to quit trying to stop renewables and electric cars. Imagine if we could actually replace oil this would fuck Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. We should also be focusing on ways to run cars on natural gas considering our supplies of it. I wonder if any one has ever calculated in the cost of defending oil supplies in the middle easty to what we actually spend on energy. Do we still belive in American exceptionalism, there was a time we beleived our scientists could over come any obsticles. This was part of the attitude that made america so successfullK thanks for that pointless narrow minded post but you need to THINK. Their oil counts for about 15% of the world market. So what happens to prices if they decide to play games and cause a shortage?
We use our own oil?
Being the largest producer of oil in the world why cant we influence the market?
Undercut the Saudis to the point no one will buy from them.
I'm guessing it's because we're also one of the worlds largest consumers of oil too. Not to mention the fact that the Arab desert sands have cheap, easily extracted oil and we don't
btw we can and do influence the market. When we increase our production we cut down on our imports. That can create a glut of oil and drive prices down. The Oil Patch didn't like that........
I lost a shitload during the eighties from that shit.
We've since diversified as has the city of Houston and Texas in general
And Trump believes in Peter Pan too?Saudi could quite easily drive our economy straight into the shitter with their control over oil.
How the hell do we avoid the inevitable disaster that may well result from any consequences we try to impose on them?
And why does every Americans financial well being have to be tied to a solitary individual who is not even an American citizen and did not die on American soil?
Are you all willing to goto war over a single individual?