Science can not even get when life started right

[Fort Fun Indiana]

energy is applied to matter

And matter can be created from energy. See? You learned something.

Science says matter came from energy being converted to matter. You learned two things.

 

[Indeependent]

For the 1 billionth time, the Laws Of Physics admits you cannot create matter.

No, the laws say you cannot create ENERGY. And the net energy of the universe may be zero.

Who gives a damn about net energy.
Of course if something can't be created or destroyed the net = 0; I bet you failed Accounting.

 

[Indeependent]

energy is applied to matter

And matter can be created from energy. See? You learned something.

Science say matter came from energy being converted to matter. You learned two things.

Energy is matter or it wouldn't exist.
Next you're going to tell me electricity is not made of matter.

 

[Hollie]

This is what comes to mind when I read posts here, by atheists:

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"

Romans 1:22

What is foolish about the search for knowledge, exploring the natural world, learning how nature works?

You may despise science and exploration because it tends to reduce your gods resume' but that doesn't entitle anyone to think their fears and superstitions should be a limitation for others.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

energy is applied to matter

And matter can be created from energy. See? You learned something.

Science says matter came from energy being converted to matter. You learned two things.

If there was no net energy then where did the energy to create matter come FROM?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Link?

To what, exactly? Be very specific. Don't waste my time.

 

[Indeependent]

energy is applied to matter

And matter can be created from energy. See? You learned something.

Science says matter came from energy being converted to matter. You learned two things.

If there was no net energy then where did the energy to create matter come FROM?

FFI and Hollie will spend the next 1,000,000,00 posts avoiding that issue.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If there was no net energy then where did the energy to create matter come FROM?

Not sure. But it is balanced by negative energy, which probably originated at the same time and place. And the net energy of our universe may very well be zero.

 

[Indeependent]

If there was no net energy then where did the energy to create matter come FROM?

Not sure. But it is balanced by negative energy, which probably originated at the same time and place. And the net energy of our universe may very well be zero.

Once again, 1-1 does not mean 1 doesn't exist.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

FFI and Hollie will spend the next 1,000,000,00 posts avoiding that issue.

Wrong again.... Did you just come here to whine lile a little bitch and quote religious texts?

Scientists are tackling these questions. All quite in spite of you cackling religious nutters. Maybe go read up on their efforts.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Once again, 1-1 does not mean 1 doesn't exist.

Nobody claimed otherwise...but thanks...

 

[buttercup]

This is what comes to mind when I read posts here, by atheists:

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"

Romans 1:22

What is foolish about the search for knowledge, exploring the natural world, learning how nature works?

You may despise science and exploration because it tends to reduce your gods resume' but that doesn't entitle anyone to think their fears and superstitions should be a limitation for others.

I never claimed that and that's certainly not what I believe, not even close. In fact, you managed to get every single thing you said wrong.

Your presumptuousness and narrow little false stereotypes are back at it again.

If you really want to know what that scripture is about, look in the mirror. It's about people who think they're so smart, but end up becoming fools, because they try to explain everything away, the way atheists do.

 

[Hollie]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

getpocket.com

They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

You mean like these secularist that believe that the universe magically created itself out of nothing?

That is the best magic trick of all time, isn't it?

I'm not sure where you got ''the universe out of nothing'', slogan. The expansion of the universe was preceded by something. There doesn't appear to be anything supernatural about the expansion of the universe. In fact, the laws of physics as we know them appear to operate all the way back to fractions of a second after the expansion started.

What elements of physics can you identify as supernatural?

The Big Bang is literally something outta nutin. Magic.

What was there before the BB?

Where did the energy from the BB come from?

What initiated the BB?

What controlled the evolution of the universe to create life on earth and maybe elsewhere?

Nobody has the answers to those very basic questions.

Intelligent design is a more logical explanation than that magic BS.

ID'iot creationism is magic under a burqa of religion.

The Secularists believe in big time magic. The Big Bang is literally magic. To get around the absurd idea of a Big Bang the idiots come up with bullshit like "oh, the Laws of Physics didn't exist". Really?

You apparently don't know that the Big Bang refers to the expansion of universe, not a literal explosion.

There's no magic about the universe expanding. That is measurable.

What laws of physics don't exist?

No one said that there's "magic" in the universe expanding. The "magic" is in everything coming about by dumb luck. I mean, I admire your faith... really!

In reference to various gods and claims to their performing unnatural events, unverified claims to supernatural events, I use magic and supernaturalism interchangeably.

Pulling a rabbit out of a hat and various gods creating existence from nothing falls somewhere between magic and supernaturalism on the logarithmic scale of silliness.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

LOL so s

If there was no net energy then where did the energy to create matter come FROM?

Not sure. But it is balanced by negative energy, which probably originated at the same time and place. And the net energy of our universe may very well be zero.

aying that science has not proven it is in fact a TRUE statement since you can get matter with out energy and no one can prove there was any energy before matter was created. Yet you worship at the feet of scientists who do not foolishly even make the ignorant claims you make and claim are fact.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

getpocket.com

They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

You mean like these secularist that believe that the universe magically created itself out of nothing?

That is the best magic trick of all time, isn't it?

I'm not sure where you got ''the universe out of nothing'', slogan. The expansion of the universe was preceded by something. There doesn't appear to be anything supernatural about the expansion of the universe. In fact, the laws of physics as we know them appear to operate all the way back to fractions of a second after the expansion started.

What elements of physics can you identify as supernatural?

The Big Bang is literally something outta nutin. Magic.

What was there before the BB?

Where did the energy from the BB come from?

What initiated the BB?

What controlled the evolution of the universe to create life on earth and maybe elsewhere?

Nobody has the answers to those very basic questions.

Intelligent design is a more logical explanation than that magic BS.

ID'iot creationism is magic under a burqa of religion.

The Secularists believe in big time magic. The Big Bang is literally magic. To get around the absurd idea of a Big Bang the idiots come up with bullshit like "oh, the Laws of Physics didn't exist". Really?

You apparently don't know that the Big Bang refers to the expansion of universe, not a literal explosion.

There's no magic about the universe expanding. That is measurable.

What laws of physics don't exist?

No one said that there's "magic" in the universe expanding. The "magic" is in everything coming about by dumb luck. I mean, I admire your faith... really!

In reference to various gods and claims to their performing unnatural events, unverified claims to supernatural events, I use magic and supernaturalism interchangeably.

Pulling a rabbit out of a hat and various gods creating existence from nothing falls somewhere between magic and supernaturalism on the logarithmic scale of silliness.

But creating something out of nothing is explained by science? Be specific now and link to this claim.

 

[Hollie]

This is what comes to mind when I read posts here, by atheists:

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"

Romans 1:22

What is foolish about the search for knowledge, exploring the natural world, learning how nature works?

You may despise science and exploration because it tends to reduce your gods resume' but that doesn't entitle anyone to think their fears and superstitions should be a limitation for others.

I never claimed that and that's certainly not what I believe, not even close. In fact, you managed to get every single thing you said wrong.

Your presumptuousness and narrow little false stereotypes are back at it again.

If you really want to know what that scripture is about, look in the mirror. It's about people who think they're so smart, but end up becoming fools, because they try to explain everything away, the way atheists do.

I find a certain humility in the sense that science can be wrong and must adjust as new information may change what was earlier thought to be accurate.

I find a certain dogmatic theme in the angry religionists who hurl bible verses at the evilutionist atheists.

 

[buttercup]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

getpocket.com

They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

You mean like these secularist that believe that the universe magically created itself out of nothing?

That is the best magic trick of all time, isn't it?

I'm not sure where you got ''the universe out of nothing'', slogan. The expansion of the universe was preceded by something. There doesn't appear to be anything supernatural about the expansion of the universe. In fact, the laws of physics as we know them appear to operate all the way back to fractions of a second after the expansion started.

What elements of physics can you identify as supernatural?

The Big Bang is literally something outta nutin. Magic.

What was there before the BB?

Where did the energy from the BB come from?

What initiated the BB?

What controlled the evolution of the universe to create life on earth and maybe elsewhere?

Nobody has the answers to those very basic questions.

Intelligent design is a more logical explanation than that magic BS.

ID'iot creationism is magic under a burqa of religion.

The Secularists believe in big time magic. The Big Bang is literally magic. To get around the absurd idea of a Big Bang the idiots come up with bullshit like "oh, the Laws of Physics didn't exist". Really?

You apparently don't know that the Big Bang refers to the expansion of universe, not a literal explosion.

There's no magic about the universe expanding. That is measurable.

What laws of physics don't exist?

No one said that there's "magic" in the universe expanding. The "magic" is in everything coming about by dumb luck. I mean, I admire your faith... really!

In reference to various gods and claims to their performing unnatural events, unverified claims to supernatural events, I use magic and supernaturalism interchangeably.

Pulling a rabbit out of a hat and various gods creating existence from nothing falls somewhere between magic and supernaturalism on the logarithmic scale of silliness.

If we're defining "magical" as silly or ridiculous, then what you believe (everything being the result of dumb luck) is infinitely more magical, and takes far, far, FAR more faith. Again, I could never have as much faith as you do, really!

In reference to various gods

There's only one God.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

and no one can prove there was any energy before matter was created.

All the evidence shows us exactly that. All of it. But the evidence that convinces career scientists doesn't convince a "genius" like you. And that is your problem and nobody else's.

Yes, scientists generally believe the inflationary period occured before the big bang. And this period involved no matter present. Only energy.

 

[Indeependent]

FFI and Hollie will spend the next 1,000,000,00 posts avoiding that issue.

Wrong again.... Did you just come here to whine lile a little bitch and quote religious texts?

Scientists are tackling these questions. All quite in spite of you cackling religious nutters. Maybe go read up on their efforts.

Scientists, yes.
You..no.
There are plenty of Orthodox Jews with actual credentials working on these issues.
What have you accomplished other than insulting people who believe in God?

 

[Hollie]

Origin of Life Theory Called Into Question by Volcanic Rock Study

Animals may have emerged under very different conditions.

getpocket.com

They have been claiming for hundred years or more life needed oxygen to evolve into complex forms. Turns out they were mostly wrong, Very little oxygen was present when the first complex life forms evolved. If they got that wrong what else have they gotten wrong?

That is false !! You’re a science illiterate
Took hundreds of millions of years for green plants to form which produced the oxygen for bigger brains and life

Takes too long. The Earth would be gone by then. Rocks and fossils would've dissolved and crumbled into dust. Stars would've spent their fuel or exploded. The planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies are not indestructible. Where's your common sense?

There’s a certain irony with a believer in magic and supernaturalism lecturing about common sense.

You mean like these secularist that believe that the universe magically created itself out of nothing?

That is the best magic trick of all time, isn't it?

I'm not sure where you got ''the universe out of nothing'', slogan. The expansion of the universe was preceded by something. There doesn't appear to be anything supernatural about the expansion of the universe. In fact, the laws of physics as we know them appear to operate all the way back to fractions of a second after the expansion started.

What elements of physics can you identify as supernatural?

The Big Bang is literally something outta nutin. Magic.

What was there before the BB?

Where did the energy from the BB come from?

What initiated the BB?

What controlled the evolution of the universe to create life on earth and maybe elsewhere?

Nobody has the answers to those very basic questions.

Intelligent design is a more logical explanation than that magic BS.

ID'iot creationism is magic under a burqa of religion.

The Secularists believe in big time magic. The Big Bang is literally magic. To get around the absurd idea of a Big Bang the idiots come up with bullshit like "oh, the Laws of Physics didn't exist". Really?

You apparently don't know that the Big Bang refers to the expansion of universe, not a literal explosion.

There's no magic about the universe expanding. That is measurable.

What laws of physics don't exist?

No one said that there's "magic" in the universe expanding. The "magic" is in everything coming about by dumb luck. I mean, I admire your faith... really!

In reference to various gods and claims to their performing unnatural events, unverified claims to supernatural events, I use magic and supernaturalism interchangeably.

Pulling a rabbit out of a hat and various gods creating existence from nothing falls somewhere between magic and supernaturalism on the logarithmic scale of silliness.

But creating something out of nothing is explained by science? Be specific now and link to this claim.

Is creating something out of nothing explained by science or even a claim of science? Do tell.

On the other hand, how is creating something from nothing explained by the gods?