SCOTUS Reject Dylan Roof Appeal

[Woodznutz]

This violence exists because our justice system is too damned soft. You look at a country like China with five times our population and a tenth of our crime rate. Their punishments are brutal and they execute a lot of people. I'm not saying we should go that extreme, but there has to be a fair medium somewhere.

Mass incarceration is a highly profitable industry. You don't 'execute' the goose that lays the golden eggs.

 

[Woodznutz]

But if a mistake is made you can't reverse a death sentence. If someone gets life in prison even in solitary you can let them out of prison and compensate them for their "trouble".

Repeat drunk drivers that have no business even owning a vehicle kill more innocent people than those wrongly killed by the State. Life is cheap when viewed from the State's point of view, which is complete disdain for the lives and safety of the law-abiding citizenry.

 

[martybegan]

But if a mistake is made you can't reverse a death sentence. If someone gets life in prison even in solitary you can let them out of prison and compensate them for their "trouble".

The thing is people only seem to care about digging deeply into death penalty cases.

What's the difference between an innocent man executed after 20 years and an innocent man dying in prison after 50?

 

[pknopp]

The thing is people only seem to care about digging deeply into death penalty cases.

What's the difference between an innocent man executed after 20 years and an innocent man dying in prison after 50?

There are groups taking the side of those who are in prison wrongly even though they do not have the death penalty hanging over them.

 

[martybegan]

There are groups taking the side of those who are in prison wrongly even though they do not have the death penalty hanging over them.

They don't spend a fraction of what is spent on technicalities on obviously guilty Death Penalty convicts.

 

[pknopp]

They don't spend a fraction of what is spent on technicalities on obviously guilty Death Penalty convicts.

I have a feeling that you have no idea how much they spend.

 

[martybegan]

I have a feeling that you have no idea how much they spend.

So many of these Death Penalty cases don't involve innocence, just technicalities like mental State and method of execution. They get to the Supreme Court multiple times. I have a pretty good idea how much that costs in legal fees. The answer is "a shit ton"

Most of the people supporting this only care about the Death Penalty. If they get rid of it they won't care if some guy spends 60 years in prison only to die there.

 

[pknopp]

So many of these Death Penalty cases don't involve innocence, just technicalities like mental State and method of execution. They get to the Supreme Court multiple times. I have a pretty good idea how much that costs in legal fees. The answer is "a shit ton"

Those are not cases where the argument is that they are completely innocent.

Most of the people supporting this only care about the Death Penalty. If they get rid of it they won't care if some guy spends 60 years in prison only to die there.

I disagree but your opinion is noted.

 

[martybegan]

Those are not cases where the argument is that they are completely innocent.




I disagree but your opinion is noted.

It's an example of what the people with the $$ really care about.

 

[The Duke]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from Dylann Roof, who challenged his death sentence and conviction in the 2015 racist slayings of nine members of a Black South Carolina congregation.

Supreme Court rejects appeal from Dylann Roof, who killed 9

The Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from Dylann Roof, who challenged his death sentence and conviction in the 2015 racist slayings of nine members of a Black South Carolina congregation.

apnews.com

Roof had asked the court to decide how to handle disputes over mental illness-related evidence between capital defendants and their attorneys. The justices did not comment Tuesday in turning away the appeal.

Roof fired his attorneys and represented himself during the sentencing phase of his capital trial, part of his effort to block evidence potentially portraying him as mentally ill.

Roof shot participants at a Bible study session at Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

Why is that POS still alive? He should have been hanged publicly by 2016.

This is an example of the massive waste and inefficiency in the US justice system.

 

[The Duke]

But if a mistake is made you can't reverse a death sentence. If someone gets life in prison even in solitary you can let them out of prison and compensate them for their "trouble".

Maybe, but it would de-bloat the "justice system" by 2/3 and a lot of victims' families would have swift closure.

 

[Dayton3]

Mass incarceration is a highly profitable industry.

Prove it.

 

[Dayton3]

The thing is people only seem to care about digging deeply into death penalty cases.

What's the difference between an innocent man executed after 20 years and an innocent man dying in prison after 50?

30 years.

 

[martybegan]

30 years.

Of what?

Solitary? Gen Pop? For an innocent person how is that better than being executed?

 

[bravoactual]

This idiot thought he could do better being his lawyer. He who himself as client has a fool for a lawyer.

 

[Dayton3]

Of what?

Solitary? Gen Pop? For an innocent person how is that better than being executed?

With rare exceptions, it is always better to be alive than not to be.

 

[martybegan]

With rare exceptions, it is always better to be alive than not to be.

Tell that to the guy dying in a cell after 60 years for something he didn't do.

 

[Dayton3]

Tell that to the guy dying in a cell after 60 years for something he didn't do.

Find one for me and I will.

 

[martybegan]

Find one for me and I will.

Good luck because those guys don't get the coverage or the support on appeals Death Penalty ones do. Even the guilty ones, and I mean the obviously guilty ones.

 

[Woodznutz]

Prove it.

How's 182 $Billion (in paychecks) sound?

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