Secularists...Hoist By Their Own Petard

[rightwinger]

there was no genocide of Indians...no resistance to foreign diseases is not genocide...

Yeah, so when they handed out smallpox blankets to the Indians, that was a conincidence, right?

Hey, how about when they slaughtered the bison to deprive them of a food source. That's kind of Genocidal, isn't it?

The Europeans and Africans brought the slaves to America...we ended the practice...a practice that was already here before the Europeans came and was practiced all around the world...till we ended it here...and it is still going on in Africa.....

We did nothing of the sort. The BRITISH ended the slave trade. they were the ones who actually had the navy to do it.

Look joe......the current sex doll

What's your sudden infatuation with sex dolls, Dick Tiny? You seem to be awefully obsessed with the subject.

Yes...innocent men, women and children were murdered because they did not believe in collectivism.....and had they been able to resist with guns history might have been changed....

They had guns. They had REALLY FUCKING NASTY CIVIL WARS. And then one side one and killed the side that lost.

Read about the Chinese Civil Wars. Lasted for something like 30 years between the abdication of the last Q'ing emperor and Mao's final victory. tens of millions killed, and that's not even counting what the Japanese did.

The small pox hoax is as valid as the man made global warming hoax...never happened........it is a lie perpetrated by the left wing regressives in their war against the founding......

The indians good a great job killiing off the buffalo too.......twit......again...keep reaching back....over 100 years ago....secularists murdered 100 million people in the last 70 years....in modern nation states.....with modern science and philosophy and modern institutions of learning..........

Tell us again how the Holocaust was faked

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

the founders were largely deists.

and they wanted religious nutters as far away from government as possible....

but thanks for your usual cut and paste.

What proof do you have that they wanted religion far away from government.

Please don't cite the first amendment.

It says "no laws respecting the establishment of religion".....guess what.

States could and did establish religions.....most of those colonies were divided along lines of religion and they were allowed to keep that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The small pox hoax is as valid as the man made global warming hoax...never happened........it is a lie perpetrated by the left wing regressives in their war against the founding......

The indians good a great job killiing off the buffalo too.......twit......again...keep reaching back....over 100 years ago....secularists murdered 100 million people in the last 70 years....in modern nation states.....with modern science and philosophy and modern institutions of learning..........

Hey, dude, check out this picture.

It's a photograph of a pile of bison skulls, when the government authorized their mass slaughter to deprive the plains Indians of a food source.

But, heck, let's not even talk about the Native Americans.

Let's talk about how we slaughtered half a million Filipinos between 1899 and 1910, trying to get them to be cool with being our colony and all.

Or how we carpet bombed and defoliated and mined Vietnam at the cost of 3,000,000 lives because they didn't want to be capitalists.

Or how we killed 1,000,000 Iraqis because we couldn't admit George W. Bush was a liar.

No, no, but it's those secularists who are the bad people. We are right with Jesus- said every fanatic, ever.

Another lie from the liar whose history knowledge comes from viewing Disney's 'Hiawatha.'

"....American Indians displayed a similar lack of sensitivity to the "complex web of life". The Sioux, as Daniel Guthrie has noted, "showedno qualms about driving a herd of buffalo over a cliff or about starting a range fire to drive the buffalo".And when buffalo were plentiful, often only the choicest parts were eaten, with the rest of the kill being left to rot --Dances with Wolves not withstanding. " "Primitive man's relationship to nature",Bioscience, volume 21, 1971, page 722.

 

[PoliticalChic]

there was no genocide of Indians...no resistance to foreign diseases is not genocide...

Yeah, so when they handed out smallpox blankets to the Indians, that was a conincidence, right?

Hey, how about when they slaughtered the bison to deprive them of a food source. That's kind of Genocidal, isn't it?

The Europeans and Africans brought the slaves to America...we ended the practice...a practice that was already here before the Europeans came and was practiced all around the world...till we ended it here...and it is still going on in Africa.....

We did nothing of the sort. The BRITISH ended the slave trade. they were the ones who actually had the navy to do it.

Look joe......the current sex doll

What's your sudden infatuation with sex dolls, Dick Tiny? You seem to be awefully obsessed with the subject.

Yes...innocent men, women and children were murdered because they did not believe in collectivism.....and had they been able to resist with guns history might have been changed....

They had guns. They had REALLY FUCKING NASTY CIVIL WARS. And then one side one and killed the side that lost.

Read about the Chinese Civil Wars. Lasted for something like 30 years between the abdication of the last Q'ing emperor and Mao's final victory. tens of millions killed, and that's not even counting what the Japanese did.

The small pox hoax is as valid as the man made global warming hoax...never happened........it is a lie perpetrated by the left wing regressives in their war against the founding......

The indians good a great job killiing off the buffalo too.......twit......again...keep reaching back....over 100 years ago....secularists murdered 100 million people in the last 70 years....in modern nation states.....with modern science and philosophy and modern institutions of learning..........

Tell us again how the Holocaust was faked

And yet another Liberal who hides behind "us" and "we."

Liberals sure are gutless.

 

[Synthaholic]

Free lunches do exist?

Of course they do. Come on over and I'll make you a sandwich. No strings attached.

 

[Synthaholic]

Seems Mail Order Bride doesn't know this great nation's history

Why would she? She's not an American.

 

[2aguy]

Free lunches do exist?

Of course they do. Come on over and I'll make you a sandwich. No strings attached.

Yeah....but what is that strange smell coming from the basement....?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Seems Mail Order Bride doesn't know this great nation's history

Why would she? She's not an American.

So what's your's and Dottie's excuse ?

 

[Synthaholic]

Thanks to the doddering dope Reagan, that ketchup is considered a vegetable for growing children.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Free lunches do exist?

Of course they do. Come on over and I'll make you a sandwich. No strings attached.

Yeah....but what is that strange smell coming from the basement....?

Why don't you ask him where he got the stuff to make a sandwich.

You might get it for free....but the stuff didn't just show up.

It's likely his mother got it from a Wal-Mart.....and I don't expect that was free.

 

[Synthaholic]

Why are you never able to point to any specific part of the post to which you are apparently responding, and find fault with same?

Why do you accuse Liberals of not sourcing their cut & pastes, but don't link to an example?

It must be because you're lying.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

the founders were largely deists.

and they wanted religious nutters as far away from government as possible....

but thanks for your usual cut and paste.

What proof do you have that they wanted religion far away from government.

Please don't cite the first amendment.

It says "no laws respecting the establishment of religion".....guess what.

States could and did establish religions.....most of those colonies were divided along lines of religion and they were allowed to keep that.

At the time of ratification of the Constitution, ten of the thirteen colonies had some provision recognizing Christianity as either the official, or the recommended religion in their state constitutions.

a. From the 1790 Massachusetts Constitution, written by John Adams, includes: [the] good order and preservation of civil government essentially depend(s) upon piety, religion, and morality…by the institution of public worship of God and of the public instruction in piety, religion, and morality…”Constitution of Massachusetts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

b. North Carolina Constitution, article 32, 1776: “That no person who shall deny the being of God, or the truth of theProtestant religion, or the divine authority of either the Old or NewTestaments, or who shall hold religious principles incompatible with thefreedom and safety of the State, shall b e capable of holding any office,or place of trust or profit, in the civil department, within this State.” Constitution of North Carolina, 1776

 

[Synthaholic]

This is what I googled...

"Images for michelle obama school lunch"

That one of the pics.....

Your Google results are based on what you have previously searched for. If you're a wingnut, you'll get results from other wingnuts.

Just another subject you're ignorant about.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

the founders were largely deists.

and they wanted religious nutters as far away from government as possible....

but thanks for your usual cut and paste.

Wrong...another lefty lie...read what Franklin said about God and sin...

Not every person who professes a belief in God wants his country governed by a theocracy.

it certainly isn't government's place to impose some theocratic christian belief system on us. that's why the first amendment exists.

the fact that they can't stand not forcing us to live by THEIR brand of religion is their problem. not the rest of ours.

Time to teach you the law....


The Framers intended the Establishment Clause to prohibit the designation of any church as a "national" one. The Clause was also designed to stop the Federal Government from asserting a preference for one religious denomination or sect over others. Given the "incorporation" of the Establishment Clause as against the States via the Fourteenth Amendment in Everson, States are prohibited as well from establishing a religion or discriminating between sects. As its history abundantly shows, however, nothing in the Establishment Clause requires government to be strictly neutral between religion and irreligion, nor does that Clause prohibit Congress or the States from pursuing legitimate secular ends through nondiscriminatory sectarian means.


From Chief Justice Wm. Rehnquist dissent in

WALLACE V. JAFFREE

472 U.S. 38, 105 S.Ct. 2479 (1985)

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is what I googled...

"Images for michelle obama school lunch"

That one of the pics.....

Your Google results are based on what you have previously searched for. If you're a wingnut, you'll get results from other wingnuts.

Just another subject you're ignorant about.

Get used to it: I'm never wrong.


"Families Are Outraged to See Michelle Obama-Approved School Lunches (YUCK!)

Read more: Families Are Outraged to See Michelle Obama-Approved School Lunches (YUCK!) - The Political Insider

 

[PoliticalChic]

"School kids are blaming Michelle Obama for their ‘gross’ school lunches

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[PoliticalChic]

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[Synthaholic]

Don't ya' just love it when the villains get what they deserve, a dose of their own medicine?
I sure do.


1. Can you imagine....secularists squealing like stuck pigs when their own methods are used against them!
'...a consummation devoutly to be wished....'


First.....those methods....then that example.



2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense.

That's why the hatred comes out whenever they see folks who are religious.




3. The change in America, from a spiritual to a materialist entity, is largely due to the efforts of the 32nd President. He promised all sorts of material rewards, if America would only give up the individualism, and freedoms that the Founders embodied in the Constitution.
He promised rewards such as

· Employment(right to work)

· Food, clothing and leisure, viaenough income to support them

· Farmers' rights to a fair income

· Freedom fromunfair competitionandmonopolies

· Housing

· Medical care

· Social security
FDR’s Second Bill of Rights
Kind of a 'worker's paradise,' huh?
I wonder where he got that idea.



4. And for these material benefits, all Americans had to do was give up our birthright...Individuals who have had the benefit of an education recognize this.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


5. While America was founded on this view:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams

...it has become inculcated with this one:

" Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries. One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its people. Another manifestation of secularism is the view that public activities and decisions, especially political ones, should be uninfluenced by religious beliefs and/or practices."
Secularism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


....the very antithesis of 'a moral and religious people.'
The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

Oh, good - another FAIL thread from PC. Can never have too many of those!

Wait.....aren't you the moron who wrote this:

....."All You Have To Know About Obama: "Best president in over 50 years

• Prevented Iran from amassing nuclear weapons
• Restored respect for America globally"

You wrote that, didn't you.


1. And we find that Obama has made certain that Iran gets a nuclear bomb...

and...


2. Let's gauge that "respect"...


Obama normalizes relatioins with another bastion of repression....Cuba....and let's see what great 'respect' Cuba showed:

"Normalizing U.S. Relations With Cuba Leads to Escalation in Repression of Cuban Dissidents"NORMALIZING U.S. RELATIONS WITH CUBA LEADS TO ESCALATION IN REPRESSION OF CUBAN DISSIDENTS, Sweet Land of Liberty



Wait...,.some dunce said"Best president in over 50 years....Restored respect for America globally"

Oh...wait....that dunce is you!!!!!!

Was normalizing relations with Cuba dependent upon them treating their dissidents better?

No. You lose again.

Was the Iran Deal dependent upon them releasing all Americans from their prisons?

No. You lose again.

Is President Obama (praise be unto Him!) the best president in 50 years?

Yes. You lose again.

Fortunately, America won.

 

[Synthaholic]

"The Founders believed in Freedom, all right. Unless you were poor Sally Hemings getting her 15 year old Cherry popped by Thomas Jefferson because she had the bad luck to be his dead-wife's half sister AND his property."

There is no proof of this lie, yet it is regularly spread by Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, who use attacks on the Founders as a proxy for their hatred of America.

By all accounts, Jefferson’s sexual relationship with Hemings spanned several decades, beginning when Hemings was a teenager and Jefferson was in his 40s. It was not, in any sense of the word, consensual: Hemings was a child, and Jefferson literally owned her; she was not in any position to give or withhold consent. What Jefferson did to Hemings was rape.

Thomas Jefferson spent years raping Sally Hemings. A new novel calls it a love story.

You suck at facts.

Just like global warming.....the big lie is settled.......

By those who don't suck at facts....because they don't seem to care about facts.

Climate Change is a fact, not a lie.

 

[amrchaos]

The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

the founders were largely deists.

and they wanted religious nutters as far away from government as possible....

but thanks for your usual cut and paste.

What proof do you have that they wanted religion far away from government.

Please don't cite the first amendment.

It says "no laws respecting the establishment of religion".....guess what.

States could and did establish religions.....most of those colonies were divided along lines of religion and they were allowed to keep that.

And that is the beauty of the Constitution as a piece of diplomacy between the states! Again it demonstrates itself as a political tool, a 'subtle' agreement, a propaganda piece to unite the colonies!

Yes, most states had a " state" religion, but few were identical! And no one group of christian wanted a different brand of Christianity dictating to them.

The Constitution said that it would not submit to any religious group and hence you could practice your brand of Christianity as the way you see it without fear of the federal government!

The major part that most modern Christians miss is that in the day of our forefathers, the different christian sects were bitter rivals. They would start fights based on their different understandings of their bible. Hell, some did not have the exact copy of the bible! To unite this group of self-righteous Christians, the constitution declared not to take a side in the argument. In other words, play a neutral role in the argument.

Many people like to claim that we are a christian nation. If so, then it is a nondenominational one at best. Which means no christian group has a claim over it.

But, if this is the case. That is, our nation is founded on nondenominational christian principles, then it can not recognize any other christian group as its model!

You may think this is not a problem, until you try to find the bible that our government supposedly. Turns out, there is no bible mandated by the federal government. It can not by way of the first amendment!!

Hence, America is not a christian nation. It is a nonreligious secular nation. Nonreligious through compromise by the various different state religions that could not see eye to eye to form a simple compromise on which denomination the government should follow!

Yes, Christians did help found it. No, it is not christian because the various denominations at the time did not trust each other!