Settlement in Principle Reached in Ashli Babbitt Lawsuit — The Young Woman Gunned Down in US Capitol on Jan. 6 – CRAZED BIDEN JUDGE Starts Screaming i

[Slade3200]

There was no insurrection, dumbass.

The only actual insurrection was in Seattle.

Can't you leftards ever stop lying?

Seattle and Oregon were also insurrections. What happened at the capital was by definition and insurrection no doubt about it

 

[Slade3200]

So you admit that Byrd had no way of knowing what they were going to do...yet he took it upon himself to shoot to kill an unarmed female protester "just in case" she might be violent later? Is that what you're going with, Slade?

He doesn’t have to know what they were going to do. Just as if a mob was trying to break into your home. You have the right to blow somebodies brains out if they break your window and poke their head in.

 

[Slade3200]

Under that kind of logic Police should shoot most protesters because they might become violent later on. Right? (eye roll)

Nope… that’s apples and oranges. But if a protest turns into a riot and a cop is charged with securing and protecting a room or hallways that’s barricaded off and that mob breaks a window and tries to charge through. The cop absolutely has the right to shoot

 

[Slade3200]

You save lives by taking a life? Interesting concept.
That doorway was not the last barrier. There was yet another doorway leading into the House Chamber behind which stood men with drawn guns. In what world would an unarmed group of protesters pose a threat to anyone still left in that chamber?
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How was bird supposed to know whether they were armed or not?

 

[Man With A Plan]

He doesn’t have to know what they were going to do. Just as if a mob was trying to break into your home. You have the right to blow somebodies brains out if they break your window and poke their head in.

A public building isn't your "home", Slade! The Castle Doctrine doesn't apply.

 

[Man With A Plan]

How was bird supposed to know whether they were armed or not?

The same way the other Capitol police officer did when he testified that he didn't see a weapon in Babbitt's hands. You can't shoot someone because you think they "might" be armed! You can shoot if you fear for your life. Byrd wasn't being threatened by any of the protesters. They had just let other Police officers walk away from in front of the doors. They weren't there to fight the Police. They were there to stop a legislative proceedure. It wasn't like Babbitt was reaching into her back pack for something...both of her hands were visible and both of her hands were empty. Anyone claiming that Byrd had the right to fire because he feared for his life is making an excuse for his actions. The other officers guarding the House chamber didn't fire on protesters that broke the windows to those doors...they did the proper thing and yelled a warning that they would fire if that door was breached. Michael Byrd didn't do that. He was the cop who used deadly force when it wasn't called for because that's the kind of fuck up that he's always been! He's the cop that leaves his loaded gun in a public bathroom. He's the cop that shoots up a neighborhood trying to stop car thieves. He's the cop that's on the Brady List!

 

[Man With A Plan]

Nope… that’s apples and oranges. But if a protest turns into a riot and a cop is charged with securing and protecting a room or hallways that’s barricaded off and that mob breaks a window and tries to charge through. The cop absolutely has the right to shoot

Was Byrd given an order to shoot to kill to protect that empty hallway? If so...who was it that gave that order and why didn't anyone else fire their service weapon that day? If not given such an order why would any competent Police officer think breaking a window justified executing someone without warning?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Seattle and Oregon were also insurrections. What happened at the capital was by definition and insurrection no doubt about it

How many unarmed protesters were shot by the Police in either Seattle or Portland, Slade?

 

[Slade3200]

A public building isn't your "home", Slade! The Castle Doctrine doesn't apply.

I never said it was. I guess the point went right over your head. Should I use a school or church as an example instead? Does that make it easier for you to understand ?

 

[Man With A Plan]

I never said it was. I guess the point went right over your head. Should I use a school or church as an example instead? Does that make it easier for you to understand ?

My point was that the Castle Doctrine doesn't apply to public buildings. The Capitol Building is a public building. It's the people's building. Shooting an unarmed protester inside of the people's building makes what Byrd did even worse.

 

[Slade3200]

The same way the other Capitol police officer did when he testified that he didn't see a weapon in Babbitt's hands. You can't shoot someone because you think they "might" be armed! You can shoot if you fear for your life. Byrd wasn't being threatened by any of the protesters. They had just let other Police officers walk away from in front of the doors. They weren't there to fight the Police. They were there to stop a legislative proceedure. It wasn't like Babbitt was reaching into her back pack for something...both of her hands were visible and both of her hands were empty. Anyone claiming that Byrd had the right to fire because he feared for his life is making an excuse for his actions. The other officers guarding the House chamber didn't fire on protesters that broke the windows to those doors...they did the proper thing and yelled a warning that they would fire if that door was breached. Michael Byrd didn't do that. He was the cop who used deadly force when it wasn't called for because that's the kind of fuck up that he's always been! He's the cop that leaves his loaded gun in a public bathroom. He's the cop that shoots up a neighborhood trying to stop car thieves. He's the cop that's on the Brady List!

When you have a door barricaded and are telling a mob of angry people to stop and back away as they break windows and try and force their way through, you have the right to defend yourself and those you’re there to protect if they breach that barrier

 

[Man With A Plan]

When you have a door barricaded and are telling a mob of angry people to stop and back away as they break windows and try and force their way through, you have the right to defend yourself and those you’re there to protect if they breach that barrier

And yet no other law enforcement officer felt compelled to fire their weapon despite a mob of angry people forcing their way into the Capitol! Only Michael Byrd. Only Byrd made the decision to shoot to kill without saying a word. Only Byrd felt so threatened by an unarmed female protester that he aimed "center mass" and pulled the trigger!
All to defend an empty hallway? From a group of people who hadn't hurt anyone inside of the Capitol building? From the very same group of people who had just pleaded with other Police officers to move aside so they wouldn't get injured?
There is a reason that Michael Byrd was on the DC Brady List. He had a history of mishaps with fire arms. Killing Ashli Babbitt without warning was just one more of his fuck ups.

 

[Care4all]

The same way the other Capitol police officer did when he testified that he didn't see a weapon in Babbitt's hands. You can't shoot someone because you think they "might" be armed! You can shoot if you fear for your life. Byrd wasn't being threatened by any of the protesters. They had just let other Police officers walk away from in front of the doors. They weren't there to fight the Police. They were there to stop a legislative proceedure. It wasn't like Babbitt was reaching into her back pack for something...both of her hands were visible and both of her hands were empty. Anyone claiming that Byrd had the right to fire because he feared for his life is making an excuse for his actions. The other officers guarding the House chamber didn't fire on protesters that broke the windows to those doors...they did the proper thing and yelled a warning that they would fire if that door was breached. Michael Byrd didn't do that. He was the cop who used deadly force when it wasn't called for because that's the kind of fuck up that he's always been! He's the cop that leaves his loaded gun in a public bathroom. He's the cop that shoots up a neighborhood trying to stop car thieves. He's the cop that's on the Brady List!

If someone is breaking in to your house through a window they broke and bashed in, can you legally shoot them as they are crawling through your house window, even if you don't see a gun?

 

[Slade3200]

And yet no other law enforcement officer felt compelled to fire their weapon despite a mob of angry people forcing their way into the Capitol! Only Michael Byrd. Only Byrd made the decision to shoot to kill without saying a word. Only Byrd felt so threatened by an unarmed female protester that he aimed "center mass" and pulled the trigger!
All to defend an empty hallway? From a group of people who hadn't hurt anyone inside of the Capitol building? From the very same group of people who had just pleaded with other Police officers to move aside so they wouldn't get injured?
There is a reason that Michael Byrd was on the DC Brady List. He had a history of mishaps with fire arms. Killing Ashli Babbitt without warning was just one more of his fuck ups.

Yup, he was the only one. He was protecting the hallway to the chamber where members of Congress hid behind more law enforcement who stood with guns drawn.

 

[Man With A Plan]

If someone is breaking in to your house through a window they broke and bashed in, can you legally shoot them as they are crawling through your house window, even if you don't see a gun?

A public building is not your house. Police don't have the "right" to kill protesters that break windows. I'm sorry but that's not a Capital offense punishable by assassination. In Massachusetts where I'm from you don't have the right to shoot someone breaking into your home unless you don't have the ability to retreat and fear for your life. Stupid law but it's a stupid State! Lying in wait for someone and then killing them without warning isn't legally protected anywhere. You do what Byrd did...step out and shoot to kill without uttering a word? You should be charged with at least Manslaughter. What he did that day is indefensible. Ashli Babbitt did not deserve to die for breaking a window into an empty hallway.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Yup, he was the only one. He was protecting the hallway to the chamber where members of Congress hid behind more law enforcement who stood with guns drawn.

He was protecting an empty hallway. Members of law enforcement were standing with guns drawn behind the NEXT set of doors those protesters would have had to breach. Let's be honest here...there is no way that those unarmed protesters were a danger to anyone at that point. Especially to members of Congress, who had almost all been evacuated from the House Chamber at that point! So why did Byrd feel the need to kill someone without warning?

 

[Slade3200]

He was protecting an empty hallway. Members of law enforcement were standing with guns drawn behind the NEXT set of doors those protesters would have had to breach. Let's be honest here...there is no way that those unarmed protesters were a danger to anyone at that point. Especially to members of Congress, who had almost all been evacuated from the House Chamber at that point! So why did Byrd feel the need to kill someone without warning?

Yes he was protecting the hallway that lead to the chamber where more law enforcement stood guns drawn ready to shoot should somebody breach.

I’ll go back to my previous example. If an angry mob was at your doorstep breaking down doors and windows. Would you shoot somebody if they breached to protect your family who are hiding in a room at the end of the hallway?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Yes he was protecting the hallway that lead to the chamber where more law enforcement stood guns drawn ready to shoot should somebody breach.

I’ll go back to my previous example. If an angry mob was at your doorstep breaking down doors and windows. Would you shoot somebody if they breached to protect your family who are hiding in a room at the end of the hallway?

Do I have a large number of Secret Service agents with drawn guns protecting my family behind a barricaded door down that hallway and a heavily armed SWAT team right behind the mob trying to break down the door to my house? Call me crazy, Slade but I'm not thinking I need to shoot someone! So why did Byrd?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Yes he was protecting the hallway that lead to the chamber where more law enforcement stood guns drawn ready to shoot should somebody breach.

I’ll go back to my previous example. If an angry mob was at your doorstep breaking down doors and windows. Would you shoot somebody if they breached to protect your family who are hiding in a room at the end of the hallway?

Oh, and you forgot to mention that my family was being evacuated from that room by those Secret Service agents and wouldn't have been IN the room by the time the "mob" broke in!
Great example! Not!!!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Members of law enforcement were standing with guns drawn behind the NEXT set of doors those protesters would have had to breach.

And your support for this?

It's not the picture you previously posted because the law enforcement officers with guns drawn, as has been shown to you, were at a DIFFERENT door than the one just behind the Speaker Lobby door.

WW