Shitty care...

[Zoom-boing]

Rustic, ACA means that Americans can have accessible, affordable quality care.

You don't like, but no one cares.

Millions lost their care when Obamacare was mandated...

No, they did not. They moved it to better care. ACA is the law of the land, and it will remain so as it is improved and updated.

Er, yeah they did.

I know of one who had an excellent individual catastrophic plan, $160/month, $3k ded. (oh, and before you rant that it was a 'sham' policy, it was used, including hospitalization, no problems). That plan was forced to go away because it was not "un-aca compliant". Now? This person gets to pay $750/month, 6k ded. Wanna do the math on the increase? Good thing this middle aged male is covered for maternity, newborn, and pediatric services, including dental and vision. Oh, did I mention he is single, no kids?

Have you tried getting a policy on the individual market? Did you try getting on prior to this pos law? The prices now are exorbitant compared to prior. Stop with the "affordable" shit, it is anything but.

 

[OKTexas]

You're right, many of the lost their employer provided health care and are pissed, millions more will be pissed off come Oct - Nov when they find their coverage is going away also. They'll vote, probably not for you regressives though.

What does any of that mean?

Oops, typo. Should read many of them.

WTF?

Sorry you're too ignorant to read. But millions of people have lost employer provided health care and were dumped on the exchanges, more will be coming this year as the last of the exemptions expire. Many more will drop out of the system as the costs continue to rise and the benefits are reduced.

So employers dump people off of their plans to save a buck and the ACA is the asshole in the equation?

Yep, the mandates made the policies unaffordable.

 

[BluesLegend]

You're right, many of the lost their employer provided health care and are pissed, millions more will be pissed off come Oct - Nov when they find their coverage is going away also. They'll vote, probably not for you regressives though.

Indeed. Several of the major providers have already dropped out - United Healthcare (I believe) being the latest and premiums are rising faster than anyone can keep up with. Great plan. What a legacy....

The whole thing will have to be scrapped and started over again.

United Healthcare takes good care of me as does my company that pays for my plan and I can see any doctor I want without anyone's approval and my annual deductible is only $500. KABOOM liberals heads just exploded.

Good, that means the company is meeting the law's requirements, is making a good profit while providing quality care at a good cost. Good on ACA.

Hey dummy I had all this before ACA fool so you libtards don't get the credit. Tune in next week when libtards take credit for the earth orbiting the sun.

That's why your plan isn't affected dope.

Are you ignorant? Did you sleep right through the millions who lost their plan and had to go buy Obamatards fucked up Obamacare? Oh noes I destroyed you.

 

[BluesLegend]

United Healthcare takes good care of me as does my company that pays for my plan and I can see any doctor I want without anyone's approval and my annual deductible is only $500. KABOOM liberals heads just exploded.

Good, that means the company is meeting the law's requirements, is making a good profit while providing quality care at a good cost. Good on ACA.

Hey dummy I had all this before ACA fool so you libtards don't get the credit. Tune in next week when libtards take credit for the earth orbiting the sun.

Those sixteen million have it now but not before. So, yeah, ACA gets the credit.

I'm sure its awesome paying for Obamacare health insurance with a $8000 deductible when you are young, healthy, and poor. Idiots

Link to the $8,000?

www.libswhodemandlinkstoreality.com

 

[JakeStarkey]

16 million covered.

Lots of them vote.

You're right, many of the lost their employer provided health care and are pissed, millions more will be pissed off come Oct - Nov when they find their coverage is going away also. They'll vote, probably not for you regressives though.

What does any of that mean?

Oops, typo. Should read many of them.

WTF?

Sorry you're too ignorant to read. But millions of people have lost employer provided health care and were dumped on the exchanges, more will be coming this year as the last of the exemptions expire. Many more will drop out of the system as the costs continue to rise and the benefits are reduced.

Not at all. You have made it quite clear that you do not understand.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Rustic, ACA means that Americans can have accessible, affordable quality care.

You don't like, but no one cares.

Millions lost their care when Obamacare was mandated...

No, they did not. They moved it to better care. ACA is the law of the land, and it will remain so as it is improved and updated.

Er, yeah they did.

I know of one who had an excellent individual catastrophic plan, $160/month, $3k ded. (oh, and before you rant that it was a 'sham' policy, it was used, including hospitalization, no problems). That plan was forced to go away because it was not "un-aca compliant". Now? This person gets to pay $750/month, 6k ded. Wanna do the math on the increase? Good thing this middle aged male is covered for maternity, newborn, and pediatric services, including dental and vision. Oh, did I mention he is single, no kids?

Have you tried getting a policy on the individual market? Did you try getting on prior to this pos law? The prices now are exorbitant compared to prior. Stop with the "affordable" shit, it is anything but.

Er, no, they did not. Typical blather, no proof

 

[Jarlaxle]

Rustic, ACA means that Americans can have accessible, affordable quality care.

You don't like, but no one cares.

Millions lost their care when Obamacare was mandated...

My wife among them...as well as her GP,m her ob-gyn, and her orthopedist.

Fortunately, I was able to add her to my insurance.

You are saying they kept insurance and changed plans. OK.

Yeah, great...the deductibles went up, and the premiums doubled. Wonderful!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Rustic, ACA means that Americans can have accessible, affordable quality care.

You don't like, but no one cares.

Millions lost their care when Obamacare was mandated...

My wife among them...as well as her GP,m her ob-gyn, and her orthopedist.

Fortunately, I was able to add her to my insurance.

So you didn't lose anything then did you?

Actually, I did, because it costs more now.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Rustic, ACA means that Americans can have accessible, affordable quality care.

You don't like, but no one cares.

Millions lost their care when Obamacare was mandated...

My wife among them...as well as her GP,m her ob-gyn, and her orthopedist.

Fortunately, I was able to add her to my insurance.

So you didn't lose anything then did you?

Actually, I did, because it costs more now.

So you and your wife had separate plans?
That's seems odd. It's also odd that it would cost more to add her to your plan than each of you having a separate plan. I think you're full of shit.

 

[OKTexas]

You're right, many of the lost their employer provided health care and are pissed, millions more will be pissed off come Oct - Nov when they find their coverage is going away also. They'll vote, probably not for you regressives though.

What does any of that mean?

Oops, typo. Should read many of them.

WTF?

Sorry you're too ignorant to read. But millions of people have lost employer provided health care and were dumped on the exchanges, more will be coming this year as the last of the exemptions expire. Many more will drop out of the system as the costs continue to rise and the benefits are reduced.

Not at all. You have made it quite clear that you do not understand.

Not at all, you made it quite queer you're nothing but a lying assed regressive.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here are some calculators for the readers to use. I encourage you to play around with them and check out the costs for different plans at different incomes in your state.

This should help clear up some of the more ridiculous claims made here.

Health Insurance Marketplace Calculator

2016 health insurance plans & prices | HealthCare.gov


Compare the ACA coverage and cost with the average cost for employees on employer plans.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey. This annual survey of employers provides a detailed look at trends in employer-sponsored health coverage including premiums, employee contributions, cost-sharing provisions, and employer opinions. The 2015 survey included almost 2,000 interviews with non-federal public and private firms. Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $17,545 this year, up 4 percent from last year, with workers on average paying $4,955 towards the cost of their coverage -- according to the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Education Trust. -Sep 22, 2015.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey - Section One: Cost of Health Insurance

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon
November 12, 2015
After plan design changes and vendor negotiations, the average health care rate increase for mid-size and large companies was 3.2 percent in 2015, marking the lowest rate increase since 1996, according to a new analysis by Aon.

Aon projects average premium increases will jump to 4.1 percent in 2016.

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon

 

[Rustic]

Here are some calculators for the readers to use. I encourage you to play around with them and check out the costs for different plans at different incomes in your state.

This should help clear up some of the more ridiculous claims made here.

Health Insurance Marketplace Calculator

2016 health insurance plans & prices | HealthCare.gov


Compare the ACA coverage and cost with the average cost for employees on employer plans.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey. This annual survey of employers provides a detailed look at trends in employer-sponsored health coverage including premiums, employee contributions, cost-sharing provisions, and employer opinions. The 2015 survey included almost 2,000 interviews with non-federal public and private firms. Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $17,545 this year, up 4 percent from last year, with workers on average paying $4,955 towards the cost of their coverage -- according to the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Education Trust. -Sep 22, 2015.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey - Section One: Cost of Health Insurance

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon
November 12, 2015
After plan design changes and vendor negotiations, the average health care rate increase for mid-size and large companies was 3.2 percent in 2015, marking the lowest rate increase since 1996, according to a new analysis by Aon.

Aon projects average premium increases will jump to 4.1 percent in 2016.

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon

Obamacare is far too expensive and worst coverage as compared to existing plans before a fucked up mandated insurance(legalized extortion)...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here are some calculators for the readers to use. I encourage you to play around with them and check out the costs for different plans at different incomes in your state.

This should help clear up some of the more ridiculous claims made here.

Health Insurance Marketplace Calculator

2016 health insurance plans & prices | HealthCare.gov


Compare the ACA coverage and cost with the average cost for employees on employer plans.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey. This annual survey of employers provides a detailed look at trends in employer-sponsored health coverage including premiums, employee contributions, cost-sharing provisions, and employer opinions. The 2015 survey included almost 2,000 interviews with non-federal public and private firms. Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $17,545 this year, up 4 percent from last year, with workers on average paying $4,955 towards the cost of their coverage -- according to the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Education Trust. -Sep 22, 2015.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey - Section One: Cost of Health Insurance

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon
November 12, 2015
After plan design changes and vendor negotiations, the average health care rate increase for mid-size and large companies was 3.2 percent in 2015, marking the lowest rate increase since 1996, according to a new analysis by Aon.

Aon projects average premium increases will jump to 4.1 percent in 2016.

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon

Obamacare is far too expensive and worst coverage as compared to existing plans before a fucked up mandated insurance(legalized extortion)...

Except that's not true in any way. I just gave you the resources you need to see for yourself but you ignored them in favor of more bullshit.

 

[Rustic]

Here are some calculators for the readers to use. I encourage you to play around with them and check out the costs for different plans at different incomes in your state.

This should help clear up some of the more ridiculous claims made here.

Health Insurance Marketplace Calculator

2016 health insurance plans & prices | HealthCare.gov


Compare the ACA coverage and cost with the average cost for employees on employer plans.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey. This annual survey of employers provides a detailed look at trends in employer-sponsored health coverage including premiums, employee contributions, cost-sharing provisions, and employer opinions. The 2015 survey included almost 2,000 interviews with non-federal public and private firms. Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $17,545 this year, up 4 percent from last year, with workers on average paying $4,955 towards the cost of their coverage -- according to the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Education Trust. -Sep 22, 2015.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey - Section One: Cost of Health Insurance

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon
November 12, 2015
After plan design changes and vendor negotiations, the average health care rate increase for mid-size and large companies was 3.2 percent in 2015, marking the lowest rate increase since 1996, according to a new analysis by Aon.

Aon projects average premium increases will jump to 4.1 percent in 2016.

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon

Obamacare is far too expensive and worst coverage as compared to existing plans before a fucked up mandated insurance(legalized extortion)...

Except that's not true in any way. I just gave you the resources you need to see for yourself but you ignored them in favor of more bullshit.

Na, not really.
Your source can not be trusted...

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Stupid Republicans want insurance companies to make the call on whether they receive care or not or die. They want their health decisions made by people who have to make a profit by denying them the very care they seek. It just doesn't get any stupider than that.

Better off dead than the federal government making decisions for an individual... Obamacare = legalized extortion

OK then, when you get a serious diagnosis we expect you to step up to the bar and die....quickly.

 

[Rustic]

Stupid Republicans want insurance companies to make the call on whether they receive care or not or die. They want their health decisions made by people who have to make a profit by denying them the very care they seek. It just doesn't get any stupider than that.

Better off dead than the federal government making decisions for an individual... Obamacare = legalized extortion

OK then, when you get a serious diagnosis we expect you to step up to the bar and die....quickly.

 

[Rustic]

Here are some calculators for the readers to use. I encourage you to play around with them and check out the costs for different plans at different incomes in your state.

This should help clear up some of the more ridiculous claims made here.

Health Insurance Marketplace Calculator

2016 health insurance plans & prices | HealthCare.gov


Compare the ACA coverage and cost with the average cost for employees on employer plans.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey. This annual survey of employers provides a detailed look at trends in employer-sponsored health coverage including premiums, employee contributions, cost-sharing provisions, and employer opinions. The 2015 survey included almost 2,000 interviews with non-federal public and private firms. Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $17,545 this year, up 4 percent from last year, with workers on average paying $4,955 towards the cost of their coverage -- according to the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Education Trust. -Sep 22, 2015.

2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey - Section One: Cost of Health Insurance

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon
November 12, 2015
After plan design changes and vendor negotiations, the average health care rate increase for mid-size and large companies was 3.2 percent in 2015, marking the lowest rate increase since 1996, according to a new analysis by Aon.

Aon projects average premium increases will jump to 4.1 percent in 2016.

U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years: Aon

 

[boedicca]

Tens of millions of people now have health care coverage that did not before. Is this all you have to complain about??

And multiples amount have more expensive and worse insurance.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

16 million covered.

Lots of them vote.

You're right, many of the lost their employer provided health care and are pissed, millions more will be pissed off come Oct - Nov when they find their coverage is going away also. They'll vote, probably not for you regressives though.

Indeed. Several of the major providers have already dropped out - United Healthcare (I believe) being the latest and premiums are rising faster than anyone can keep up with. Great plan. What a legacy....

The whole thing will have to be scrapped and started over again.

United Healthcare takes good care of me as does my company that pays for my plan and I can see any doctor I want without anyone's approval and my annual deductible is only $500. KABOOM liberals heads just exploded.

I have had United Healthcare for years now, I switched from BCBS. So far I have never been asked to pay a deductible, I have 10 dollar co-pay at my primary care and prescriptions are 7 dollars.
I was happy to hear that they dropped out of the government health scam

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Tens of millions of people now have health care coverage that did not before. Is this all you have to complain about??

And multiples amount have more expensive and worse insurance.

Not true at all. Use the resources I provided to see for yourself.