Weatherman2020
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Yeah but hospitalizations are way, way down in Israel because of the vaccine. The same holds true for Iceland which also high % of vaccinated citizens.In Israel, 60% of hospitalized patients are now vaccinated.
Madison warned us about this.My suburban school board voted to make masks voluntary. Seven parents got a Federal District Court judge to kill that, making masks mandatory.
What a country.
Yeah but hospitalizations are way, way down in Israel because of the vaccine. The same holds true for Iceland which also high % of vaccinated citizens.
And masks do work. Why do you think surgeons wear them? A cloth or paper mask may not filter the air for the wearer due to gaps around the nose/cheeks, but they protect others from the mask wearer's aerosols.
The only masks that DO protect the wearer is a respirator type of mask that has a tight fit around the cheek/nose area.
My suburban school board voted to make masks voluntary. Seven parents got a Federal District Court judge to kill that, making masks mandatory.
What a country.
The masks were worn to stop bacteria --- organisms a thousand times bigger than viruses. Masks can't stop viruses, they are too tiny and go right through.Masks do not protect against aerosols. Honestly after all this time I'm amazed there is still so much misinformation around masks.
Surgical masks are paper. I repeat: paper. You can literally blow air through them. They ONLY block actual gunk from coming out your mouth and nose. They are used in surgery to block gunk from coming out the surgeon's orifices and into open cavities.
That's it.
Not aerosols. Ever. Not ever, not ever.
It might make you "feel safe" but that's it.
The masks were worn to stop bacteria --- organisms a thousand times bigger than viruses. Masks can't stop viruses, they are too tiny and go right through.
How do I know masks don't work? Because I look at the graphs of cases and hospitalizations: the curve is going up steeper and higher even than last January. If masks worked, they would work --- so many people so quickly wouldn't be catching Covid. The CDC said earlier in July that this Delta variant has an R-naught of 8: R8, eight people catch it from each infectious person. Who can escape catching it, now that the vaccine has failed?
My last hope is that they aren't lying about vaccinated people being less sick with Delta, less often hospitalized and dying. They've lied about so much else -- the masks, the vaccine, the lockdowns, everything -- that I'm afraid even that will turn out to be "non-operational."
Right, the virus won and we lost. The appalling thing to me is that governments at all levels keep trying to shift the blame onto humans, enforcing more and more draconian controls, none of which work. I suppose the strategy is to get people to blame each other so they won't blame the politicians. Why people have to scapegoat at all for an epidemic disease, I don't know. It's not people causing it, it's the virus.I have been a strong voice in opposition to the vaccines here ONLY because I don't like them being forced on people. At the same time, I acknowledge that for SOME, they are still a very good bet.
That said, they are no where near to living up to their promise. They do not prevent transmission. Boosters are necessary some 8 months after second shot. And now they are not even preventing serious disease in those who need them most.
What a time we are living in
Wrong! Here's the science on it. Also surgical masks are not paper, they're a blend of microfiber and contain several layers.Masks do not protect against aerosols. Honestly after all this time I'm amazed there is still so much misinformation around masks.
Surgical masks are paper. I repeat: paper. You can literally blow air through them. They ONLY block actual gunk from coming out your mouth and nose. They are used in surgery to block gunk from coming out the surgeon's orifices and into open cavities.
That's it.
Not aerosols. Ever. Not ever, not ever.
It might make you "feel safe" but that's it.
The vaccine hasn't failed. The hospitals are filling up with the UNVAXXED... so vaccines are quite effective at keeping people from getting really, really sick to the point they need to be hospitalized.How do I know masks don't work? Because I look at the graphs of cases and hospitalizations: the curve is going up steeper and higher even than last January. If masks worked, they would work --- so many people so quickly wouldn't be catching Covid. The CDC said earlier in July that this Delta variant has an R-naught of 8: R8, eight people catch it from each infectious person. Who can escape catching it, now that the vaccine has failed?
My suburban school board voted to make masks voluntary. Seven parents got a Federal District Court judge to kill that, making masks mandatory.
What a country.