Should Muslims be labelled a 'Hate Group'?

[Meathead]

Muslims are the world's largest hate group.

 

[MikeK]

Muslims have done, and are doing, a very good job of labeling themselves a hate group. The vast majority of them manifest hatred for Christian White America and its native inhabitants. The best thing I can say about the Muslims who have rose to recent prominence in the West is they hopefully have dug their own graves and soon will be driven into them.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

How?? Because we have eyes and ears and have seen the handy work of Muslims. They Muslim diaspora by the UN has ruined the countries that have welcomed them. Crime skyrockets when they move in. They slaughter little children sitting at their desks, the kidnap and sell slaves, they murder innocents. They burn Chriastian churches to the ground with people inside, and on and on and on.
What's not to love huh? No thank you. Pray to Allah to remove their hatred, not for our acceptance of it.

It's amazing how much the Left hates Christians but not Muslims....

All patriarchal religions are suspect.

There it is. Humanity really went awry with this notion of a male dominator god. This way of looking at all life, and the planet, rolled out over the tribes of Europe first. We are all the decedents of tribes and a spiritual perceptual reality of the universe and the creator. That memory has been wiped out of white consciousness pretty much, their enslavement having happened long before the disease rolled out across the rest of the planet via colonialism and proselytizing.

That perceptual reality was replaced with a male dominator god perceptual reality which gave rise to the notion that this male dominator god gave mankind, only the “chosen ones” mind you, dominion over the natural world, the planet, anything they “discovered”, and any other human beings they could manage to whip into consent. So you bring that into a technological perceptual reality era where we are now, and we’ve all been enslaved to/by an economic system that has no other purpose than to continue the colonialization of all human beings, further redistributing and concentrating wealth into the pockets of fewer and fewer, much of that wealth coming from the natural world that was in place long before the humans who manipulate it into their own hands. In the same manner the system mines uranium or coal or gold, it also mines the energy, spirit, and soul of the human being to run these authoritarian systems that enslave us all. In essence, they mine the being part of the human being. Think about your own experiences in the corporate world if you have them.

And so all of this racism, classism, sexism, religion, et.al. arises from the system’s need to keep the masses quibbling amongst themselves. The same applies to the american political system; it is designed to prevent any gathering of the masses against the aristocracy. It’s an illusion, this democracy and liberty. You have ostensibly “two” political parties who very comfortably don’t really have to do anything at all except point at the “other” party and with your consent present them as evil and scary; disconnected from what? Well, they’re not “real” americans like you and they don’t bow as deeply to the male dominator god as you do. Again, go back and look at Bacon’s Rebellion and the aftermath. The power structure learned that lesson very well. The system also learned very well from the 60-70s / the Viet Nam War / Civil Rights era, the last large scale questioning of our authoritarian system. The beast is bigger and stronger now.

It’s useful for all of us to go back and study our tribal ancestry, go dig into how they got “civilized”, invariably, it was anything but civil, that’s the great lie, it was very brutal stuff, they had to be brutalized into “accepting” the proper perceptual reality, and thus consent. And so now that the colonialism has become globalism, the power structure no longer has any national affiliations at all. That’s for YOU to hold onto, again, because it will feed into the unsubstantial people’s fighting amongst themselves so the system doesn’t have to, and so that the unsubstantial people will line up to go to war and die in endless wars over resources and turf someone else sits on that the system covets. It’s really no different than the manner in which any street gang goes after turf.

We have been with our own consent and participation indoctrinated into submission, consent, and acceptance of this authoritarian system that runs on our energy and labor just as surely as we’ve all been indoctrinated into hating and distrusting the only possible allies we have in this authoritarian system.

So what do you got that's better....?

 

[Fenton Lum]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

How?? Because we have eyes and ears and have seen the handy work of Muslims. They Muslim diaspora by the UN has ruined the countries that have welcomed them. Crime skyrockets when they move in. They slaughter little children sitting at their desks, the kidnap and sell slaves, they murder innocents. They burn Chriastian churches to the ground with people inside, and on and on and on.
What's not to love huh? No thank you. Pray to Allah to remove their hatred, not for our acceptance of it.

It's amazing how much the Left hates Christians but not Muslims....

All patriarchal religions are suspect.

There it is. Humanity really went awry with this notion of a male dominator god. This way of looking at all life, and the planet, rolled out over the tribes of Europe first. We are all the decedents of tribes and a spiritual perceptual reality of the universe and the creator. That memory has been wiped out of white consciousness pretty much, their enslavement having happened long before the disease rolled out across the rest of the planet via colonialism and proselytizing.

That perceptual reality was replaced with a male dominator god perceptual reality which gave rise to the notion that this male dominator god gave mankind, only the “chosen ones” mind you, dominion over the natural world, the planet, anything they “discovered”, and any other human beings they could manage to whip into consent. So you bring that into a technological perceptual reality era where we are now, and we’ve all been enslaved to/by an economic system that has no other purpose than to continue the colonialization of all human beings, further redistributing and concentrating wealth into the pockets of fewer and fewer, much of that wealth coming from the natural world that was in place long before the humans who manipulate it into their own hands. In the same manner the system mines uranium or coal or gold, it also mines the energy, spirit, and soul of the human being to run these authoritarian systems that enslave us all. In essence, they mine the being part of the human being. Think about your own experiences in the corporate world if you have them.

And so all of this racism, classism, sexism, religion, et.al. arises from the system’s need to keep the masses quibbling amongst themselves. The same applies to the american political system; it is designed to prevent any gathering of the masses against the aristocracy. It’s an illusion, this democracy and liberty. You have ostensibly “two” political parties who very comfortably don’t really have to do anything at all except point at the “other” party and with your consent present them as evil and scary; disconnected from what? Well, they’re not “real” americans like you and they don’t bow as deeply to the male dominator god as you do. Again, go back and look at Bacon’s Rebellion and the aftermath. The power structure learned that lesson very well. The system also learned very well from the 60-70s / the Viet Nam War / Civil Rights era, the last large scale questioning of our authoritarian system. The beast is bigger and stronger now.

It’s useful for all of us to go back and study our tribal ancestry, go dig into how they got “civilized”, invariably, it was anything but civil, that’s the great lie, it was very brutal stuff, they had to be brutalized into “accepting” the proper perceptual reality, and thus consent. And so now that the colonialism has become globalism, the power structure no longer has any national affiliations at all. That’s for YOU to hold onto, again, because it will feed into the unsubstantial people’s fighting amongst themselves so the system doesn’t have to, and so that the unsubstantial people will line up to go to war and die in endless wars over resources and turf someone else sits on that the system covets. It’s really no different than the manner in which any street gang goes after turf.

We have been with our own consent and participation indoctrinated into submission, consent, and acceptance of this authoritarian system that runs on our energy and labor just as surely as we’ve all been indoctrinated into hating and distrusting the only possible allies we have in this authoritarian system.

So what do you got that's better....?

Objective reality.

 

[The Irish Ram]

“Should Muslims be labelled a 'Hate Group'?”

Of course not.

But conservatives who advocate for such a thing are in fact a hate group.

Right. Muslims are huggers...

 

[ScreamingEagle]

“Should Muslims be labelled a 'Hate Group'?”

Of course not.

But conservatives who advocate for such a thing are in fact a hate group.

So you agree the Demonrats should also be labelled a hate group....?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How?? Because we have eyes and ears and have seen the handy work of Muslims. They Muslim diaspora by the UN has ruined the countries that have welcomed them. Crime skyrockets when they move in. They slaughter little children sitting at their desks, the kidnap and sell slaves, they murder innocents. They burn Chriastian churches to the ground with people inside, and on and on and on.
What's not to love huh? No thank you. Pray to Allah to remove their hatred, not for our acceptance of it.

It's amazing how much the Left hates Christians but not Muslims....

All patriarchal religions are suspect.

There it is. Humanity really went awry with this notion of a male dominator god. This way of looking at all life, and the planet, rolled out over the tribes of Europe first. We are all the decedents of tribes and a spiritual perceptual reality of the universe and the creator. That memory has been wiped out of white consciousness pretty much, their enslavement having happened long before the disease rolled out across the rest of the planet via colonialism and proselytizing.

That perceptual reality was replaced with a male dominator god perceptual reality which gave rise to the notion that this male dominator god gave mankind, only the “chosen ones” mind you, dominion over the natural world, the planet, anything they “discovered”, and any other human beings they could manage to whip into consent. So you bring that into a technological perceptual reality era where we are now, and we’ve all been enslaved to/by an economic system that has no other purpose than to continue the colonialization of all human beings, further redistributing and concentrating wealth into the pockets of fewer and fewer, much of that wealth coming from the natural world that was in place long before the humans who manipulate it into their own hands. In the same manner the system mines uranium or coal or gold, it also mines the energy, spirit, and soul of the human being to run these authoritarian systems that enslave us all. In essence, they mine the being part of the human being. Think about your own experiences in the corporate world if you have them.

And so all of this racism, classism, sexism, religion, et.al. arises from the system’s need to keep the masses quibbling amongst themselves. The same applies to the american political system; it is designed to prevent any gathering of the masses against the aristocracy. It’s an illusion, this democracy and liberty. You have ostensibly “two” political parties who very comfortably don’t really have to do anything at all except point at the “other” party and with your consent present them as evil and scary; disconnected from what? Well, they’re not “real” americans like you and they don’t bow as deeply to the male dominator god as you do. Again, go back and look at Bacon’s Rebellion and the aftermath. The power structure learned that lesson very well. The system also learned very well from the 60-70s / the Viet Nam War / Civil Rights era, the last large scale questioning of our authoritarian system. The beast is bigger and stronger now.

It’s useful for all of us to go back and study our tribal ancestry, go dig into how they got “civilized”, invariably, it was anything but civil, that’s the great lie, it was very brutal stuff, they had to be brutalized into “accepting” the proper perceptual reality, and thus consent. And so now that the colonialism has become globalism, the power structure no longer has any national affiliations at all. That’s for YOU to hold onto, again, because it will feed into the unsubstantial people’s fighting amongst themselves so the system doesn’t have to, and so that the unsubstantial people will line up to go to war and die in endless wars over resources and turf someone else sits on that the system covets. It’s really no different than the manner in which any street gang goes after turf.

We have been with our own consent and participation indoctrinated into submission, consent, and acceptance of this authoritarian system that runs on our energy and labor just as surely as we’ve all been indoctrinated into hating and distrusting the only possible allies we have in this authoritarian system.

So what do you got that's better....?

Objective reality.

Well, objectively, that does not seem to work in reality....

 

[MisterBeale]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

How?? Because we have eyes and ears and have seen the handy work of Muslims. They Muslim diaspora by the UN has ruined the countries that have welcomed them. Crime skyrockets when they move in. They slaughter little children sitting at their desks, the kidnap and sell slaves, they murder innocents. They burn Chriastian churches to the ground with people inside, and on and on and on.
What's not to love huh? No thank you. Pray to Allah to remove their hatred, not for our acceptance of it.

It's amazing how much the Left hates Christians but not Muslims....

All patriarchal religions are suspect.

To a certain extent though, is patriarchy a biologically programmed and anthropologically innate part of the species, and to be suspicious of it, would sort of be like, saying, it is suspicious of humans that they need air, water and food to survive?

Or would should the organization of the Lions on the African plans be around the female lion, why should that be matriarchal?

If you study anthropology, going back hundreds of years, it is just so. . . .

 

[xyz]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

If Christian "groups", as you say, are labelled "hate groups", why do you want to label all Muslims and not specific sects as hate groups?

And what do you think of the Westboro Baptist Church? Agree with them?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

If Christian "groups", as you say, are labelled "hate groups", why do you want to label all Muslims and not specific sects as hate groups?

And what do you think of the Westboro Baptist Church? Agree with them?

So which major sect does not believe in the Koran....? Which major sect has undergone reformation....?

As for Westboro.....there are alot of minor sects of Christianity......not worth our time to bother with....

 

[xyz]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

If Christian "groups", as you say, are labelled "hate groups", why do you want to label all Muslims and not specific sects as hate groups?

And what do you think of the Westboro Baptist Church? Agree with them?

So which major sect does not believe in the Koran....? Which major sect has undergone reformation....?

As for Westboro.....there are alot of minor sects of Christianity......not worth our time to bother with....

So you think it's o.k. to sleep with your daughter (assuming you have one) because it says it's o.k. in the Bible?

 

[MisterBeale]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

How?? Because we have eyes and ears and have seen the handy work of Muslims. They Muslim diaspora by the UN has ruined the countries that have welcomed them. Crime skyrockets when they move in. They slaughter little children sitting at their desks, the kidnap and sell slaves, they murder innocents. They burn Chriastian churches to the ground with people inside, and on and on and on.
What's not to love huh? No thank you. Pray to Allah to remove their hatred, not for our acceptance of it.

It's amazing how much the Left hates Christians but not Muslims....

All patriarchal religions are suspect.

There it is. Humanity really went awry with this notion of a male dominator god. This way of looking at all life, and the planet, rolled out over the tribes of Europe first. We are all the decedents of tribes and a spiritual perceptual reality of the universe and the creator. That memory has been wiped out of white consciousness pretty much, their enslavement having happened long before the disease rolled out across the rest of the planet via colonialism and proselytizing.

That perceptual reality was replaced with a male dominator god perceptual reality which gave rise to the notion that this male dominator god gave mankind, only the “chosen ones” mind you, dominion over the natural world, the planet, anything they “discovered”, and any other human beings they could manage to whip into consent. So you bring that into a technological perceptual reality era where we are now, and we’ve all been enslaved to/by an economic system that has no other purpose than to continue the colonialization of all human beings, further redistributing and concentrating wealth into the pockets of fewer and fewer, much of that wealth coming from the natural world that was in place long before the humans who manipulate it into their own hands. In the same manner the system mines uranium or coal or gold, it also mines the energy, spirit, and soul of the human being to run these authoritarian systems that enslave us all. In essence, they mine the being part of the human being. Think about your own experiences in the corporate world if you have them.

And so all of this racism, classism, sexism, religion, et.al. arises from the system’s need to keep the masses quibbling amongst themselves. The same applies to the american political system; it is designed to prevent any gathering of the masses against the aristocracy. It’s an illusion, this democracy and liberty. You have ostensibly “two” political parties who very comfortably don’t really have to do anything at all except point at the “other” party and with your consent present them as evil and scary; disconnected from what? Well, they’re not “real” americans like you and they don’t bow as deeply to the male dominator god as you do. Again, go back and look at Bacon’s Rebellion and the aftermath. The power structure learned that lesson very well. The system also learned very well from the 60-70s / the Viet Nam War / Civil Rights era, the last large scale questioning of our authoritarian system. The beast is bigger and stronger now.

It’s useful for all of us to go back and study our tribal ancestry, go dig into how they got “civilized”, invariably, it was anything but civil, that’s the great lie, it was very brutal stuff, they had to be brutalized into “accepting” the proper perceptual reality, and thus consent. And so now that the colonialism has become globalism, the power structure no longer has any national affiliations at all. That’s for YOU to hold onto, again, because it will feed into the unsubstantial people’s fighting amongst themselves so the system doesn’t have to, and so that the unsubstantial people will line up to go to war and die in endless wars over resources and turf someone else sits on that the system covets. It’s really no different than the manner in which any street gang goes after turf.

We have been with our own consent and participation indoctrinated into submission, consent, and acceptance of this authoritarian system that runs on our energy and labor just as surely as we’ve all been indoctrinated into hating and distrusting the only possible allies we have in this authoritarian system.

I'd agree with most of that, except for our altered perception of thinking that it is "unnatural" or that it has been foisted upon humanity by the west.

Methinks your research in that area is a bit lacking, it goes much further back the just Abrahamic religions.

Think about the Book of the Dead, think about Zoroastrianism. Think about how in 95% of tribalism, the male is the head of both the nucleus of the family and the tribe, it is just part of human evolution. It isn't some grand conspiracy that the anthropomorphized creator god in every culture is a man, it is just extended in the the creation myth of every culture. Even in pantheistic cultures, the supreme power of the deities is always a male, whether it is Zeus, Jupiter, Odin, Shiva, etc.

This has to do with how human families, tribes and nations operate, regardless of politics. If you let political philosophy break down what is natural to our species, you will be deceived of your true nature, and what is wholesome and good. I suggest if you have a liking for western things, look into stoic philosophy to get your head on straight. If you like the eastern perspective, look into Taoism. Both philosophies essentially come at the universe and debunk nihilism and identity politics from the same perspective.

 

[Sunni Man]

that which muslims mumble five times per day is not all that important----to the overwhelming
majority it is all gibberish. Most muslims do not understand Arabic.

Quit lying irosie ......

Muslims don't mumble their prayers, They say them loud and clear 5 times per day.

Also, the prayers in all mosque's throughout the world are recited in arabic.

And yes, muslims know what is being said, whether arabic is their native tongue or not. ......

 

[Reasonable]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

Stupid question. Out of the 1.8 billion Muslims in the world only an extremely small % of them are terrorists no matter what lies Trump has told you.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


Articles: What Muslims Really Pray at 'Interfaith' Gatherings
markdurie.com blog: THE GREATEST RECITATION OF SURAT AL-FATIHAH

If Christian "groups", as you say, are labelled "hate groups", why do you want to label all Muslims and not specific sects as hate groups?

And what do you think of the Westboro Baptist Church? Agree with them?

So which major sect does not believe in the Koran....? Which major sect has undergone reformation....?

As for Westboro.....there are alot of minor sects of Christianity......not worth our time to bother with....

So you think it's o.k. to sleep with your daughter (assuming you have one) because it says it's o.k. in the Bible?

You didn't answer my question......why should i answer your stupid ones.....?

 

[Reasonable]

Muslims are the world's largest hate group.

Funny you hate Muslims but love your white supremacists. Says a whole lot of your priorities.

 

[Fenton Lum]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


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How?? Because we have eyes and ears and have seen the handy work of Muslims. They Muslim diaspora by the UN has ruined the countries that have welcomed them. Crime skyrockets when they move in. They slaughter little children sitting at their desks, the kidnap and sell slaves, they murder innocents. They burn Chriastian churches to the ground with people inside, and on and on and on.
What's not to love huh? No thank you. Pray to Allah to remove their hatred, not for our acceptance of it.

It's amazing how much the Left hates Christians but not Muslims....

All patriarchal religions are suspect.

There it is. Humanity really went awry with this notion of a male dominator god. This way of looking at all life, and the planet, rolled out over the tribes of Europe first. We are all the decedents of tribes and a spiritual perceptual reality of the universe and the creator. That memory has been wiped out of white consciousness pretty much, their enslavement having happened long before the disease rolled out across the rest of the planet via colonialism and proselytizing.

That perceptual reality was replaced with a male dominator god perceptual reality which gave rise to the notion that this male dominator god gave mankind, only the “chosen ones” mind you, dominion over the natural world, the planet, anything they “discovered”, and any other human beings they could manage to whip into consent. So you bring that into a technological perceptual reality era where we are now, and we’ve all been enslaved to/by an economic system that has no other purpose than to continue the colonialization of all human beings, further redistributing and concentrating wealth into the pockets of fewer and fewer, much of that wealth coming from the natural world that was in place long before the humans who manipulate it into their own hands. In the same manner the system mines uranium or coal or gold, it also mines the energy, spirit, and soul of the human being to run these authoritarian systems that enslave us all. In essence, they mine the being part of the human being. Think about your own experiences in the corporate world if you have them.

And so all of this racism, classism, sexism, religion, et.al. arises from the system’s need to keep the masses quibbling amongst themselves. The same applies to the american political system; it is designed to prevent any gathering of the masses against the aristocracy. It’s an illusion, this democracy and liberty. You have ostensibly “two” political parties who very comfortably don’t really have to do anything at all except point at the “other” party and with your consent present them as evil and scary; disconnected from what? Well, they’re not “real” americans like you and they don’t bow as deeply to the male dominator god as you do. Again, go back and look at Bacon’s Rebellion and the aftermath. The power structure learned that lesson very well. The system also learned very well from the 60-70s / the Viet Nam War / Civil Rights era, the last large scale questioning of our authoritarian system. The beast is bigger and stronger now.

It’s useful for all of us to go back and study our tribal ancestry, go dig into how they got “civilized”, invariably, it was anything but civil, that’s the great lie, it was very brutal stuff, they had to be brutalized into “accepting” the proper perceptual reality, and thus consent. And so now that the colonialism has become globalism, the power structure no longer has any national affiliations at all. That’s for YOU to hold onto, again, because it will feed into the unsubstantial people’s fighting amongst themselves so the system doesn’t have to, and so that the unsubstantial people will line up to go to war and die in endless wars over resources and turf someone else sits on that the system covets. It’s really no different than the manner in which any street gang goes after turf.

We have been with our own consent and participation indoctrinated into submission, consent, and acceptance of this authoritarian system that runs on our energy and labor just as surely as we’ve all been indoctrinated into hating and distrusting the only possible allies we have in this authoritarian system.

I'd agree with most of that, except for our altered perception of thinking that it is "unnatural" or that it has been foisted upon humanity by the west.

Methinks your research in that area is a bit lacking, it goes much further back the just Abrahamic religions.

Think about the Book of the Dead, think about Zoroastrianism. Think about how in 95% of tribalism, the male is the head of both the nucleus of the family and the tribe, it is just part of human evolution. It isn't some grand conspiracy that the anthropomorphized creator god in every culture is a man, it is just extended in the the creation myth of every culture. Even in pantheistic cultures, the supreme power of the deities is always a male, whether it is Zeus, Jupiter, Odin, Shiva, etc.

This has to do with how human families, tribes and nations operate, regardless of politics. If you let political philosophy break down what is natural to our species, you will be deceived of your true nature, and what is wholesome and good. I suggest if you have a liking for western things, look into stoic philosophy to get your head on straight. If you like the eastern perspective, look into Taoism. Both philosophies essentially come at the universe and debunk nihilism and identity politics from the same perspective.

Indeed, … partially, but as western capitalism/colonialism and US global military hegemony is the current prevailing force bearing down upon humanity at this time, I see the Abrahamic religions as THE predominate perceptual reality holding humanity back from seeing itself as one, and many of the indigenous cultures of the Americas were indeed matrilineal and recognized life was a cycle and connected to the health of the planet rather than seeing the planet as a source of wealth extraction to depletion..

 

[MikeK]

Stupid question. Out of the 1.8 billion Muslims in the world only an extremely small % of them are terrorists no matter what lies Trump has told you.

Then those good ones had better take charge of the bad ones and put them under control, because the technological reality of today's world logically dictates that none of you will survive the Tenth Crusade which is surely coming.

 

[Reasonable]

“Should Muslims be labelled a 'Hate Group'?”

Of course not.

But conservatives who advocate for such a thing are in fact a hate group.

Right. Muslims are huggers...

The Irish mutt is a birther. Funny she advertises this dubious title.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

How can Christians, Jews, and Muslims ever get along together if this what they believe....?
Christian groups are labelled as 'hate groups' all the time because they preach against what the Left believes.....so how is this any different? This is a daily prayer against Jews and Christians....

Devout Muslims repeat this Surat al Fatiha (Qur'an, 1:7) at least seventeen times daily during the five calls to prayer – over 5,000 times a year.

This is the prayer
Al-Fatihah

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
Praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of all Being,
the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,
the Master of the Day of Doom.
Thee only we serve; to Thee alone we pray for succor.
Guide us in the straight path,
the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
nor of those who are astray.

^The underlined part is refering to Jews and Christians....


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Stupid question. Out of the 1.8 billion Muslims in the world only an extremely small % of them are terrorists no matter what lies Trump has told you.

Of course only a small percentage are terrorists......but only 10% of 1.8 billion equates to 18 million terrorists.....

and how many of the 1.8 billion reject Jews and Christians in their daily prayers...? probably all of them.....and this attitude supports the terrorists...