Should the President...

Can the president dissolve a media outlet when that outlet criticizes him?

  • Yes! The fake news is the enemy of the people

    Votes: 2 7.1%
  • No! We live under a constitution that protects the press

    Votes: 26 92.9%

  • Total voters
    28
Revoking a security clearance without valid cause because the President is butt hurt is a warning about saying un-nice things about him. So who is to say what he will try to do to the "enemy of the people" next?

Boo. freaking. Hoo.

When he starts putting these morons in camps then you will have a point. (it's sarcasm if you don't get it)
Trump is going after witnesses. Brennan, McCabe, Comey, Yates, Rice. All these folks have testified before congress and may be called upon to testify again. All these folks have the nformaton on the Russian attack on our. Election process and that information is classified.

Trump is trying to protect himself, not classified information.

If Dumpster Fire does this to Comey - a HIGHLY probable future witness ... it will be the final nail in his coffin.
The purpose of this stupidity (other than Donald's obvious inherent vindictiveness) is to stifle freedom of speech.
And of course they always have a shiny object to fling every time bad news happens (Omarosa in this case) which is minimally 3x a week.
We may be headed right back into McCarthyism.

Considering the purpose of the whole Muller process is to overturn an election, your bitching is quite quaint.

No, the purpose of the Mueller investigation is to get to the bottom of Russian meddling, whether any coordination occurred (it did) and wherever else the evidence too him.

Butthurt noted, but if you're confident of the Orange Poopstain's innocence, then you should sit up like a man and let the chips fall where they may.

You don't have to worry - We're not going down impeachment road unless something really REALLY horrible comes out and we have 2/3 of the Senate and a solid majority of the American people.

Funny that you tell someone to act like a man and within the same breath call the president an “Orange Poopstain.” LOL
 
If Dumpster Fire does this to Comey - a HIGHLY probable future witness ... it will be the final nail in his coffin.
The purpose of this stupidity (other than Donald's obvious inherent vindictiveness) is to stifle freedom of speech.
And of course they always have a shiny object to fling every time bad news happens (Omarosa in this case) which is minimally 3x a week.
We may be headed right back into McCarthyism.

Considering the purpose of the whole Muller process is to overturn an election, your bitching is quite quaint.
The purpose of the investigation is to determine how the Russians attacked or election and who, if anyone, conspired with them. Your 'explaination' is the Trumpian point of view.

Ask yourself, is it plausible that the investigation is intended to get rid of Trump?

Then why are progressives placing so much value on a tax evasion case from a decade ago?

How many other tax evasion cases are ongoing right now?

This is all about Trump, but of course progressives can't admit that as it makes them look like the petty sore losers they are.
The current Manafort trial is about bank fraud and tax evasion. Where did the money come from? How much of it was Russian money? Was that money used in a money laundering operation.

The next Manafort trial will reveal even more.

Should Manafort be charged with 18 counts of tax and bank fraud? Is that fair?

You can charge him with whatever the government can get an indictment for, as the jury deliberations continue we see that convicting is a different thing.

And the only reason Progs like you care about Russia Russia Russia is because you think it can bring down Trump.
The reason people are concerned with Russia Russia Russia is because we don't want foreign interference in the most sacred rite in democracy, our vote.

Don't you feel any responsibility in keeping our votes safe and legitimate?
 
Considering the purpose of the whole Muller process is to overturn an election, your bitching is quite quaint.
The purpose of the investigation is to determine how the Russians attacked or election and who, if anyone, conspired with them. Your 'explaination' is the Trumpian point of view.

Ask yourself, is it plausible that the investigation is intended to get rid of Trump?

Then why are progressives placing so much value on a tax evasion case from a decade ago?

How many other tax evasion cases are ongoing right now?

This is all about Trump, but of course progressives can't admit that as it makes them look like the petty sore losers they are.
The current Manafort trial is about bank fraud and tax evasion. Where did the money come from? How much of it was Russian money? Was that money used in a money laundering operation.

The next Manafort trial will reveal even more.

Should Manafort be charged with 18 counts of tax and bank fraud? Is that fair?

You can charge him with whatever the government can get an indictment for, as the jury deliberations continue we see that convicting is a different thing.

And the only reason Progs like you care about Russia Russia Russia is because you think it can bring down Trump.
The reason people are concerned with Russia Russia Russia is because we don't want foreign interference in the most sacred rite in democracy, our vote.

Don't you feel any responsibility in keeping our votes safe and legitimate?

Then I assume you are for voter ID, correct?
 
No. But the President has not only the right, but the duty to speak out against the medias propogandizing of the news.

The media wants to criticize, but not be criticized. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Journalism is no sacred cow. We have had many examples of propagandization of news in this country...although previously it wasn't so one sided. I was born in a county where the news paper is called to this day The Republican, and the neighboring county to where I live today is The Democrat. This is nothing new. But it is very lopsided today. The three major papers in Missouri, including the one in heavily red Southwest Missouri, are all liberal controlled. The local televisions news is no different...as left leaning as they can get away with.

I can very easily help you understand how we feel. We feel about the rest of the media the way you feel about Sinclair Group and Fox News. You just can't see it, because you agree with the MSM bias.
Doesn't this President want to criticize but not be criticized?

What has he actually done besides respond to them and call them names?

How has he actually tried to stop any criticism of him?
He has eroded the confidence some Americans have in institutions like the press and federal law enforcement. He has eroded American confidence in an investigation to determine how Russia has interfered with our elections.

Further, he has divided Americans on race, on immigrants and on how the dignity of the office should be upheld.

Really? HE has divided Americans on race and immigrants? You don’t think the press plays a GINORMOUS role in that at all? If you don’t think the PRESS makes the people question “how the dignity of the office should be upheld” then why all the negative Trump coverage? The spotlight is constantly on him even when it doesn’t need to be and people like you eat it all up and ask for more. You’re too far gone to realize how the media is hurting Americans. I won’t call them the enemy but they certainly aren’t our friends. They’re supposed to be reporting the news, NOT pushing narratives and can you honestly say they’re NOT doing the latter?

Forget about Trump for a second and how much you dislike him and just focus on how the media is treating a duly elected president. Maybe that’ll help you see what’s truly going on.
The press is reporting what Trump says. He bears the responsibility.

Do you recall when President Obama said "the cops acted stupidly"? Remember the backlash over that?

Now multiply 'the cops acted stupidly' by 50. That's an approximation, but the multiplier might be 5,000 the number of times Trump said so,etching out of bounds.

Trump is responsibyfor upholding the dignity of the office. When he goes off the reservation, it's his fault.

Like I said, you’re too far gone to see what’s truly going on and no I don’t remember the backlash against Obama and I highly HIGHLY doubt it was at all similar to the press coverage of even the most minor of Trump quagmires—bc if it had been I would have heard about it.
 
The purpose of the investigation is to determine how the Russians attacked or election and who, if anyone, conspired with them. Your 'explaination' is the Trumpian point of view.

Ask yourself, is it plausible that the investigation is intended to get rid of Trump?

Then why are progressives placing so much value on a tax evasion case from a decade ago?

How many other tax evasion cases are ongoing right now?

This is all about Trump, but of course progressives can't admit that as it makes them look like the petty sore losers they are.
The current Manafort trial is about bank fraud and tax evasion. Where did the money come from? How much of it was Russian money? Was that money used in a money laundering operation.

The next Manafort trial will reveal even more.

Should Manafort be charged with 18 counts of tax and bank fraud? Is that fair?

You can charge him with whatever the government can get an indictment for, as the jury deliberations continue we see that convicting is a different thing.

And the only reason Progs like you care about Russia Russia Russia is because you think it can bring down Trump.
The reason people are concerned with Russia Russia Russia is because we don't want foreign interference in the most sacred rite in democracy, our vote.

Don't you feel any responsibility in keeping our votes safe and legitimate?

Then I assume you are for voter ID, correct?
I am not in favor of voter suppression. I am in favor of a vigorous investigation and proposals to eliminate interference by forpowers in our electoral system.

Would voter ID prevent Russian interference? No.
 
Doesn't this President want to criticize but not be criticized?

What has he actually done besides respond to them and call them names?

How has he actually tried to stop any criticism of him?
He has eroded the confidence some Americans have in institutions like the press and federal law enforcement. He has eroded American confidence in an investigation to determine how Russia has interfered with our elections.

Further, he has divided Americans on race, on immigrants and on how the dignity of the office should be upheld.

Really? HE has divided Americans on race and immigrants? You don’t think the press plays a GINORMOUS role in that at all? If you don’t think the PRESS makes the people question “how the dignity of the office should be upheld” then why all the negative Trump coverage? The spotlight is constantly on him even when it doesn’t need to be and people like you eat it all up and ask for more. You’re too far gone to realize how the media is hurting Americans. I won’t call them the enemy but they certainly aren’t our friends. They’re supposed to be reporting the news, NOT pushing narratives and can you honestly say they’re NOT doing the latter?

Forget about Trump for a second and how much you dislike him and just focus on how the media is treating a duly elected president. Maybe that’ll help you see what’s truly going on.
The press is reporting what Trump says. He bears the responsibility.

Do you recall when President Obama said "the cops acted stupidly"? Remember the backlash over that?

Now multiply 'the cops acted stupidly' by 50. That's an approximation, but the multiplier might be 5,000 the number of times Trump said so,etching out of bounds.

Trump is responsibyfor upholding the dignity of the office. When he goes off the reservation, it's his fault.

Like I said, you’re too far gone to see what’s truly going on and no I don’t remember the backlash against Obama and I highly HIGHLY doubt it was at all similar to the press coverage of even the most minor of Trump quagmires—bc if it had been I would have heard about it.
Selective memory, eh? Or are you not capable of keeping two thoughts in your mind at once?
 
Then why are progressives placing so much value on a tax evasion case from a decade ago?

How many other tax evasion cases are ongoing right now?

This is all about Trump, but of course progressives can't admit that as it makes them look like the petty sore losers they are.
The current Manafort trial is about bank fraud and tax evasion. Where did the money come from? How much of it was Russian money? Was that money used in a money laundering operation.

The next Manafort trial will reveal even more.

Should Manafort be charged with 18 counts of tax and bank fraud? Is that fair?

You can charge him with whatever the government can get an indictment for, as the jury deliberations continue we see that convicting is a different thing.

And the only reason Progs like you care about Russia Russia Russia is because you think it can bring down Trump.
The reason people are concerned with Russia Russia Russia is because we don't want foreign interference in the most sacred rite in democracy, our vote.

Don't you feel any responsibility in keeping our votes safe and legitimate?

Then I assume you are for voter ID, correct?
I am not in favor of voter suppression. I am in favor of a vigorous investigation and proposals to eliminate interference by forpowers in our electoral system.

Would voter ID prevent Russian interference? No.

Figures. You target on voter INFLUENCE, which is at most what the Russians could have done, and ignore VOTE FRAUD OR INTERFERENCE, which is what can happen if people who can't vote actually do vote.

You clamor for safe and legitimate elections but don't want to enact the one measure that might help guarantee that.

Haaaaaaaaccccckkkkk.
 
Is the press really the enemy of the people?

The press is supposed to reports the antics of the politicians without bias, not join one side against the other.

The mainstream press is completely in the Democrats' pocket. They are not doing their job but rather directly working for a party that is an enemy of the people so yes, they are an enemy of the people.
All 330 newspapers ? Gee bk what'll it take to see you're on the side of idiots morons and dotards?
 
What has he actually done besides respond to them and call them names?

How has he actually tried to stop any criticism of him?
He has eroded the confidence some Americans have in institutions like the press and federal law enforcement. He has eroded American confidence in an investigation to determine how Russia has interfered with our elections.

Further, he has divided Americans on race, on immigrants and on how the dignity of the office should be upheld.

Really? HE has divided Americans on race and immigrants? You don’t think the press plays a GINORMOUS role in that at all? If you don’t think the PRESS makes the people question “how the dignity of the office should be upheld” then why all the negative Trump coverage? The spotlight is constantly on him even when it doesn’t need to be and people like you eat it all up and ask for more. You’re too far gone to realize how the media is hurting Americans. I won’t call them the enemy but they certainly aren’t our friends. They’re supposed to be reporting the news, NOT pushing narratives and can you honestly say they’re NOT doing the latter?

Forget about Trump for a second and how much you dislike him and just focus on how the media is treating a duly elected president. Maybe that’ll help you see what’s truly going on.
The press is reporting what Trump says. He bears the responsibility.

Do you recall when President Obama said "the cops acted stupidly"? Remember the backlash over that?

Now multiply 'the cops acted stupidly' by 50. That's an approximation, but the multiplier might be 5,000 the number of times Trump said so,etching out of bounds.

Trump is responsibyfor upholding the dignity of the office. When he goes off the reservation, it's his fault.

Like I said, you’re too far gone to see what’s truly going on and no I don’t remember the backlash against Obama and I highly HIGHLY doubt it was at all similar to the press coverage of even the most minor of Trump quagmires—bc if it had been I would have heard about it.
Selective memory, eh? Or are you not capable of keeping two thoughts in your mind at once?

LOL classic when you don’t have an argument resort to insults. If I did remember this Obama occurrence I’d tell you. I have nothing to hide and I’m not a liar. I’m also not one of those crazy Obama haters... you know, those people who acted exactly how Trump haters now act?
 
The current Manafort trial is about bank fraud and tax evasion. Where did the money come from? How much of it was Russian money? Was that money used in a money laundering operation.

The next Manafort trial will reveal even more.

Should Manafort be charged with 18 counts of tax and bank fraud? Is that fair?

You can charge him with whatever the government can get an indictment for, as the jury deliberations continue we see that convicting is a different thing.

And the only reason Progs like you care about Russia Russia Russia is because you think it can bring down Trump.
The reason people are concerned with Russia Russia Russia is because we don't want foreign interference in the most sacred rite in democracy, our vote.

Don't you feel any responsibility in keeping our votes safe and legitimate?

Then I assume you are for voter ID, correct?
I am not in favor of voter suppression. I am in favor of a vigorous investigation and proposals to eliminate interference by forpowers in our electoral system.

Would voter ID prevent Russian interference? No.

Figures. You target on voter INFLUENCE, which is at most what the Russians could have done, and ignore VOTE FRAUD OR INTERFERENCE, which is what can happen if people who can't vote actually do vote.

You clamor for safe and legitimate elections but don't want to enact the one measure that might help guarantee that.

Haaaaaaaaccccckkkkk.
If there was evidence of massive voter fraud, then let's explore solutions. Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem.

Foryinterference is real. And it's still happening. Foreigners are hacking our voter rolls, they could actually change votes. And you want to ignore that problem.

Show us evidence of voter fraud. Are we talking about a handful of votes, or three million votes as the Teump campaign claims (because he lost the popular vote)?
 
You can charge him with whatever the government can get an indictment for, as the jury deliberations continue we see that convicting is a different thing.

And the only reason Progs like you care about Russia Russia Russia is because you think it can bring down Trump.
The reason people are concerned with Russia Russia Russia is because we don't want foreign interference in the most sacred rite in democracy, our vote.

Don't you feel any responsibility in keeping our votes safe and legitimate?

Then I assume you are for voter ID, correct?
I am not in favor of voter suppression. I am in favor of a vigorous investigation and proposals to eliminate interference by forpowers in our electoral system.

Would voter ID prevent Russian interference? No.

Figures. You target on voter INFLUENCE, which is at most what the Russians could have done, and ignore VOTE FRAUD OR INTERFERENCE, which is what can happen if people who can't vote actually do vote.

You clamor for safe and legitimate elections but don't want to enact the one measure that might help guarantee that.

Haaaaaaaaccccckkkkk.
If there was evidence of massive voter fraud, then let's explore solutions. Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem.

Foryinterference is real. And it's still happening. Foreigners are hacking our voter rolls, they could actually change votes. And you want to ignore that problem.

Show us evidence of voter fraud. Are we talking about a handful of votes, or three million votes as the Teump campaign claims (because he lost the popular vote)?

How does hacking into our voter rolls change elections?

And why wouldn't voter ID, shown at the polling place help keep track of that?

And what progs like you are alluding to isn't VOTE INTERFERENCE, it's VOTE INFLUENCE.

stop trying to make it sound like the Russians hacked the election.
 
He has eroded the confidence some Americans have in institutions like the press and federal law enforcement. He has eroded American confidence in an investigation to determine how Russia has interfered with our elections.

Further, he has divided Americans on race, on immigrants and on how the dignity of the office should be upheld.

Really? HE has divided Americans on race and immigrants? You don’t think the press plays a GINORMOUS role in that at all? If you don’t think the PRESS makes the people question “how the dignity of the office should be upheld” then why all the negative Trump coverage? The spotlight is constantly on him even when it doesn’t need to be and people like you eat it all up and ask for more. You’re too far gone to realize how the media is hurting Americans. I won’t call them the enemy but they certainly aren’t our friends. They’re supposed to be reporting the news, NOT pushing narratives and can you honestly say they’re NOT doing the latter?

Forget about Trump for a second and how much you dislike him and just focus on how the media is treating a duly elected president. Maybe that’ll help you see what’s truly going on.
The press is reporting what Trump says. He bears the responsibility.

Do you recall when President Obama said "the cops acted stupidly"? Remember the backlash over that?

Now multiply 'the cops acted stupidly' by 50. That's an approximation, but the multiplier might be 5,000 the number of times Trump said so,etching out of bounds.

Trump is responsibyfor upholding the dignity of the office. When he goes off the reservation, it's his fault.

Like I said, you’re too far gone to see what’s truly going on and no I don’t remember the backlash against Obama and I highly HIGHLY doubt it was at all similar to the press coverage of even the most minor of Trump quagmires—bc if it had been I would have heard about it.
Selective memory, eh? Or are you not capable of keeping two thoughts in your mind at once?

LOL classic when you don’t have an argument resort to insults. If I did remember this Obama occurrence I’d tell you. I have nothing to hide and I’m not a liar. I’m also not one of those crazy Obama haters... you know, those people who acted exactly how Trump haters now act?

Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly' - CNN.com
 
The reason people are concerned with Russia Russia Russia is because we don't want foreign interference in the most sacred rite in democracy, our vote.

Don't you feel any responsibility in keeping our votes safe and legitimate?

Then I assume you are for voter ID, correct?
I am not in favor of voter suppression. I am in favor of a vigorous investigation and proposals to eliminate interference by forpowers in our electoral system.

Would voter ID prevent Russian interference? No.

Figures. You target on voter INFLUENCE, which is at most what the Russians could have done, and ignore VOTE FRAUD OR INTERFERENCE, which is what can happen if people who can't vote actually do vote.

You clamor for safe and legitimate elections but don't want to enact the one measure that might help guarantee that.

Haaaaaaaaccccckkkkk.
If there was evidence of massive voter fraud, then let's explore solutions. Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem.

Foryinterference is real. And it's still happening. Foreigners are hacking our voter rolls, they could actually change votes. And you want to ignore that problem.

Show us evidence of voter fraud. Are we talking about a handful of votes, or three million votes as the Teump campaign claims (because he lost the popular vote)?

How does hacking into our voter rolls change elections?

And why wouldn't voter ID, shown at the polling place help keep track of that?

And what progs like you are alluding to isn't VOTE INTERFERENCE, it's VOTE INFLUENCE.

stop trying to make it sound like the Russians hacked the election.
Tell that to every American intelligence agency. Tell that to both the House and Senate intelligence committee.

Everyone agrees the Russians have and continue to hack our elections. Stuff Fox News won't tell you.
 
Then I assume you are for voter ID, correct?
I am not in favor of voter suppression. I am in favor of a vigorous investigation and proposals to eliminate interference by forpowers in our electoral system.

Would voter ID prevent Russian interference? No.

Figures. You target on voter INFLUENCE, which is at most what the Russians could have done, and ignore VOTE FRAUD OR INTERFERENCE, which is what can happen if people who can't vote actually do vote.

You clamor for safe and legitimate elections but don't want to enact the one measure that might help guarantee that.

Haaaaaaaaccccckkkkk.
If there was evidence of massive voter fraud, then let's explore solutions. Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem.

Foryinterference is real. And it's still happening. Foreigners are hacking our voter rolls, they could actually change votes. And you want to ignore that problem.

Show us evidence of voter fraud. Are we talking about a handful of votes, or three million votes as the Teump campaign claims (because he lost the popular vote)?

How does hacking into our voter rolls change elections?

And why wouldn't voter ID, shown at the polling place help keep track of that?

And what progs like you are alluding to isn't VOTE INTERFERENCE, it's VOTE INFLUENCE.

stop trying to make it sound like the Russians hacked the election.
Tell that to every American intelligence agency. Tell that to both the House and Senate intelligence committee.

Everyone agrees the Russians have and continue to hack our elections. Stuff Fox News won't tell you.

But the whole current investigation isn't about hacking, it's about influencing, so please try to make up your mind on this shit.

And Voter ID's matched to other documentary evidence would make hacking votes that much harder.
 
Should the president dissolve media outlets that post criticisms of him? Should the president determine that a media outlet I see posting "fake news" and summarily dissolve them?

No. The name of the game on both sides is ratings. That said, weaponized as both spectrum representative MSM outlets are, the circus media must go on. Shreds of the truth exist within most politicized news pieces; despite the slant and spin, America's survival depends on the voices of all press corps regardless of the toxicity of their rotten intent. Despite the 24/7 barrage capability of modern MSM this broadcast, publicized, nearly inescapable cacophony of sensory assault that is American news reporting, is nothing new.

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Should the president dissolve media outlets that post criticisms of him? Should the president determine that a media outlet I see posting "fake news" and summarily dissolve them?

"Russian collusion", "Stormy Daniel"s, "border children separated" and now "Trump wants to dissolve the media". Maybe this BS story has some legs. But it won't last. What's next? One can only wonder.
 
Should the president dissolve media outlets that post criticisms of him? Should the president determine that a media outlet I see posting "fake news" and summarily dissolve them?

"Russian collusion", "Stormy Daniel"s, "border children separated" and now "Trump wants to dissolve the media". Maybe this BS story has some legs. But it won't last. What's next? One can only wonder.
Let's wait for the next tweet.
 
Should the president dissolve media outlets that post criticisms of him? Should the president determine that a media outlet I see posting "fake news" and summarily dissolve them?

"Russian collusion", "Stormy Daniel"s, "border children separated" and now "Trump wants to dissolve the media". Maybe this BS story has some legs. But it won't last. What's next? One can only wonder.
Let's wait for the next tweet.

The good news is we'll only have to wait a few minutes.
 
I guess you forget about obama telling us not to watch fox news or listen to Limbaugh.

Link please ^

no matter, it's apples & oranges &

but but but obamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know, it's okay if your side does it. Trump tells the truth about fake news. Obama tells you not to watch or listen to people that tells the truth about him.


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Trump is telling the truth about the media. We heard everything bad about Bush. Then they kissed Obama's ass for eight years then another republican gets in and nothing but nevagative reporting and your okay with it.

:blahblah:

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