Should Trump freeze prices to prevent coronavirus gouging?

Should Trump freeze prices to prevent gouging?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • No

    Votes: 21 77.8%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 1 3.7%

  • Total voters
    27
No, massacring 850,000 Americans, throwing the Constitution into the waste bin and laying waste to half the country was bad. Or do you believe that was a good thing?

Some presidents have done it more, like Lincoln, Wilson and Roosevelt, and some have done it less.

Lincoln did not force the south to secede and become an enemy nation hell bent on defending their right to own other human beings...that was their choice.
Secession was not a legitimate basis for invading Virginia, dumbass. Lincoln launched the war. Nothing in the Constitution prevented it. In fact, the Constitution specifically bars it. Only Lincoln worshiping goons believe that was sufficient justification for Lincoln's war.

The Constitution specifically bars what?
The Constitution specifically bars the federal government from making war on a state.

Can you give me the section of the Constitution where this is found?
Hmmm would this be the answer as is spoken about here ??


Fans of nullification count on the states to check federal tyranny.

Let’s examine each of those questions:

First, are states required to enforce federal laws and enact regulatory programs that Congress mandates? The answer on both counts is “No.”

In the 1997 case, Printz v. United States, the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government could not command state law enforcement authorities to conduct background checks on prospective handgun purchasers.

In the 1992 case, New York v. United States, the Court ruled that Congress couldn’t require states to enact specified waste disposal regulations.

The second question is more difficult: Can a state impede federal authorities from enforcing their own law if the state deems the law to be unconstitutional. The answer is “No,” although more radical nullification proponents would disagree. They point to the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions of 1798 and 1799, in which Thomas Jefferson and James Madison asserted a state’s right to nullify the Alien and Sedition Acts.

But consider those resolutions in context: Jefferson and Madison had argued that the states must have the final word because the Constitution had not expressly established an ultimate authority on constitutional matters.

Four years later in Marbury v. Madison, Chief Justice John Marshall resolved that oversight. He wrote: “It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is.” Since then, instead of 50 individual states effecting their own views regarding constitutionality, we have one Supreme Court establishing a uniform rule for the entire nation.

The Framers concurred. In Federalist 78, Alexander Hamilton had written: “\ limited constitution … can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the constitution void.” Madison shared that view. He wrote: “(I)ndependent tribunals … will be an impenetrable bulwark against every assumption of power in the legislative or executive.”

Even before Marbury, the Virginia General Assembly had passed Madison’s Report of 1800. It acknowledged that states can declare federal laws unconstitutional; but the declaration would have no legal effect unless the courts agreed. Here’s what Madison wrote: State “declarations … are expressions of opinion, (intended only for) exciting reflection. The expositions of the judiciary, on the other hand, are carried into immediate effect.”

Madison also published Notes on Nullification in 1834. There, he wrote that an individual state cannot unilaterally invalidate a federal law. That process requires collective action by the states. Similarly, Jefferson’s Kentucky Resolutions had described nullification as an act by “the several states” that formed the Constitution.

Moreover, seven states rejected resolutions similar to Virginia’s and Kentucky’s; six states passed alternate resolutions holding that constitutionality was for courts to decide; four states took no action. No other state went along with Virginia or Kentucky.

Since then, nullification attempts have failed on three occasions: In 1828, South Carolina tried to nullify two national tariffs. President Andrew Jackson proclaimed nullification to be treason; Congress authorized Jackson to send troops, and the state backed down. In 1859, the Supreme Court rejected nullification in Ableman v. Booth.

Booth had frustrated recapture of a slave in violation of the Fugitive Slave Act. Wisconsin’s Supreme Court held the act unconstitutional, but the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the conviction. In 1958, after southern states refused to integrate their schools, the Supreme Court in Cooper v. Aaron held that nullification “is not a constitutional doctrine … it is illegal defiance of constitutional authority.”

Fans of nullification count on the states to check federal tyranny. But sometimes it cuts the other way; states are also tyrannical. Indeed, if state and local governments could invalidate federal law, Virginia would have continued its ban on inter‐racial marriages; Texas might still be jailing gay people for consensual sex; and constructive gun bans would remain in effect in Chicago and elsewhere.

Finally, question #3: If a state deems a federal law to be unconstitutional, what’s the proper remedy? The answer is straightforward. Because the Supreme Court is the ultimate authority, the remedy is a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the suspect federal regulation or statute.
 
Is it unconstitutional?

Do you not remember this... “I am today ordering a freeze on all prices and wages throughout the United States.”

Aug. 15, 1971

Nixon

It was unconstitutional, and counterproductive, when Nixon did it.

counterproductive is an understatement...but it was never found to be unconstitutional

Please show where the Consitution gives them this capability.

It has been done multiple times, WWII, Nixon, Carter. I do not know their reasoning, but I know it has never found to be unconstitutional

It was Nixon, not Carter because inflation was getting out of control!
You're right it was Nixon not Carter. I was in my late 20s when the wage and price controls were put in place and it was a bad time. My 73 year old brain tends to compact the bad times together and link them to the worst President of the period. Getting old sucks.
 
Shouldn't Trump call for suspension of the Election until this crisis clears? Do we really want the Most Powerful man in the Universe distracted by silly things like an election?
 
Lincoln did not force the south to secede and become an enemy nation hell bent on defending their right to own other human beings...that was their choice.

As you know, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.

The South was determined to maintain state rights.
 
Is it unconstitutional?

Do you not remember this... “I am today ordering a freeze on all prices and wages throughout the United States.”

Aug. 15, 1971

Nixon

I remember it well.

Also how quickly manufacturers stopped manufacturing and laid people off.

How shelves were not restocked.

But then I also remember World War II's black market and how you could buy anything rationed so long as you shopped the back door. With cash.

Anybody else here old enough to remember cash?
 
No, massacring 850,000 Americans, throwing the Constitution into the waste bin and laying waste to half the country was bad. Or do you believe that was a good thing?

Some presidents have done it more, like Lincoln, Wilson and Roosevelt, and some have done it less.

Lincoln did not force the south to secede and become an enemy nation hell bent on defending their right to own other human beings...that was their choice.
Secession was not a legitimate basis for invading Virginia, dumbass. Lincoln launched the war. Nothing in the Constitution prevented it. In fact, the Constitution specifically bars it. Only Lincoln worshiping goons believe that was sufficient justification for Lincoln's war.
Republicans used to consider themselves the party of Lincoln.
No more?

They have been taught lately that Lincoln was evil and that getting rid of slavery was the start of all bad things in our country.
Lincoln was evil. He was a mass murderer and a tyrant.
Bill O'reilly called Lincoln the best president back in 2011.

Just back in December, a senior advisor to Trump called themselves the party of lincoln.

Somebody didnt give him the memo that Slavery is back in style.
 
Consumers face coronavirus price-gouging

As fears over the coronavirus grow, people are frantically buying up supplies and leaving store shelves empty. Prices are also sky-rocketing online as demand grows, such as two large bottles of Purell hand sanitizer on sale for nearly $300 on Amazon. The same size normally sells for about $9 a bottle. An Amazon spokesperson says the company does not allow price gouging and it has "recently blocked or removed tens of thousands of offers." Anna Werner reports from a pharmacy in Manhattan on how coronavirus price gouging is affecting consumers.

How coronavirus price-gouging is hurting consumers

Have you experienced price gouging? I've heard several people say that they have. Since I don't do much shopping, I can't speak to any personal experiences - yet.


If it needs to be done is specific areas the State Governors can handle it.

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Lincoln did not force the south to secede and become an enemy nation hell bent on defending their right to own other human beings...that was their choice.
Secession was not a legitimate basis for invading Virginia, dumbass. Lincoln launched the war. Nothing in the Constitution prevented it. In fact, the Constitution specifically bars it. Only Lincoln worshiping goons believe that was sufficient justification for Lincoln's war.
Republicans used to consider themselves the party of Lincoln.
No more?

They have been taught lately that Lincoln was evil and that getting rid of slavery was the start of all bad things in our country.
Lincoln was evil. He was a mass murderer and a tyrant.
Bill O'reilly called Lincoln the best president back in 2011.

Just back in December, a senior advisor to Trump called themselves the party of lincoln.

Somebody didnt give him the memo that Slavery is back in style.
Republicans are basically ignorant of what Lincoln actually did. Lincoln was one of the smoothest liars ever to get elected.
 

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