Should Trump freeze prices to prevent coronavirus gouging?

Should Trump freeze prices to prevent gouging?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • No

    Votes: 21 77.8%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 1 3.7%

  • Total voters
    27
It's unconstitutional.
It's stupid.

Is it unconstitutional?

Do you not remember this... “I am today ordering a freeze on all prices and wages throughout the United States.”

Aug. 15, 1971

Nixon
Who sued?...When was the case ruled on?

As far as I know, nobody...thus it has not been found unconstitutional...seems simple enough
IOW, nobody ever called a prez operating beyond his scope on it, so it's all perfectly kosher.

You're a worse libertarian than Bill Weld.

Who said it was kosher? i said it happens and nobody gives a fucking shit based upon the fact we keep voting the same people back into office.

You really should spend more time working on your reading comprehension, you have the a dumb ass down pat already.
We aren't voting the same people back into office, as it has steadily been getting worse since the end of world war two. Now look at the field today.... Good grief. Unbelievable really.
 
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Who sued?...When was the case ruled on?

As far as I know, nobody...thus it has not been found unconstitutional...seems simple enough
Actually, the SC found it unconstitutional in the early days of the New Deal. It ruled the NRA to be unconstitutional, and it's primary function was to set and regulate prices.

And yet it has been done at least 3 times since then...weird.
When did Congress ever let the Constitution get in its way?

Right before the last time a president let the Constitution get in his way
Must be talking about Obama and his fundemental transformation he ordered.
 
Why wouldn't Trump freeze prices to prevent gouging?
Because government price controls are a quagmire?

Government cant even stop robocalls even though there is a federal law against them
 
NY STATE OF EMERGENCY: Coronavirus Cases Jump to 76 In New York

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Even New York Governor Cuomo's state of emergency addresses price gouging.
When states of emergencies are declared in independent states, then of course state government kicks in for the people in those states. It's not the feds job to kick in unless it becomes a national crisis in which affects the entire country, otherwise spilling over into the feds yard of expertise on a federal crisis. So if the feds declare a national emergency, then I'm not real sure as to what all that emergency would involve. Has the fed declared a national emergency yet ??
 
Why wouldn't Trump freeze prices to prevent gouging?

It's unconstitutional.
It's stupid.

Is it unconstitutional?

Do you not remember this... “I am today ordering a freeze on all prices and wages throughout the United States.”

Aug. 15, 1971

Nixon

It was unconstitutional, and counterproductive, when Nixon did it.

It sure was. I was the manager of a large retail store so we were ground central. Picture frame #72 would be discontinued and picture frame #74 would be a new item, identical to #72 but 10% more expensive. It got to be a game and was totally ineffective.
Isn't the prices regulated and/or adjusted by the markets rising and falling, and this being all depended upon who it is that we are dealing with all over the world as well as back here ?
 
Why wouldn't Trump freeze prices to prevent gouging?

It's unconstitutional.
It's stupid.

Is it unconstitutional?

Do you not remember this... “I am today ordering a freeze on all prices and wages throughout the United States.”

Aug. 15, 1971

Nixon

It was unconstitutional, and counterproductive, when Nixon did it.

It sure was. I was the manager of a large retail store so we were ground central. Picture frame #72 would be discontinued and picture frame #74 would be a new item, identical to #72 but 10% more expensive. It got to be a game and was totally ineffective.
Isn't the prices regulated and/or adjusted by the markets rising and falling, and this being all depended upon who it is that we are dealing with all over the world as well as back here ?

There was a price freeze. You couldn't raise the price of anything. They were trying to break the back of inflation.
 
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As far as I know, nobody...thus it has not been found unconstitutional...seems simple enough
Actually, the SC found it unconstitutional in the early days of the New Deal. It ruled the NRA to be unconstitutional, and it's primary function was to set and regulate prices.

And yet it has been done at least 3 times since then...weird.
When did Congress ever let the Constitution get in its way?

Right before the last time a president let the Constitution get in his way
That was during the Obama administration, moron.

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As far as I know, nobody...thus it has not been found unconstitutional...seems simple enough
Actually, the SC found it unconstitutional in the early days of the New Deal. It ruled the NRA to be unconstitutional, and it's primary function was to set and regulate prices.

And yet it has been done at least 3 times since then...weird.
When did Congress ever let the Constitution get in its way?

Right before the last time a president let the Constitution get in his way
Must be talking about Obama and his fundemental transformation he ordered.

Oh yeah, Obama was the first president to ignore the Constitution, it all started with him! :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:

You people make the TDSers look down right rational.
 
Actually, the SC found it unconstitutional in the early days of the New Deal. It ruled the NRA to be unconstitutional, and it's primary function was to set and regulate prices.

And yet it has been done at least 3 times since then...weird.
When did Congress ever let the Constitution get in its way?

Right before the last time a president let the Constitution get in his way
Must be talking about Obama and his fundemental transformation he ordered.

Oh yeah, Obama was the first president to ignore the Constitution, it all started with him! :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:

You people make the TDSers look down right rational.
Wasn't saying it like that. He was the most blatant about it is what I was saying it like. Sort of like his buddy Biden who was blatant about using a quid pro quo in Ukraine. Must have got his ques from his BOSS daddy Obama.
 
Why wouldn't Trump freeze prices to prevent gouging?

Because if he did, shortages would soon follow. We froze gas prices and the result was long gas lines, remember that? When demand spikes and prices can't rise, people but more than they need. " clear that shelf of bottles of hand sanitizer, honey, they're cheap". Compare that to, "Only get two bottles, that should be enough, and they're expensive".
 
I voted no ... price gouging is the nature of Free Markets ... when the opportunity presents itself, gouge away ...

Hand sanitizer ... oh my tender liberal heart bleeds ...

Your logic prevents people of low and modest means from items they need when others are hogging and hoarding and prices are skyrocketing. Then there is also that empty shelf thingy...

Artificially low prices CAUSE empty shelves.
 
Why wouldn't Trump freeze prices to prevent gouging?

Because if he did, shortages would soon follow. We froze gas prices and the result was long gas lines, remember that? When demand spikes and prices can't rise, people but more than they need. " clear that shelf of bottles of hand sanitizer, honey, they're cheap". Compare that to, "Only get two bottles, that should be enough, and they're expensive".
Went out to eat last night, and well if the Coroner I mean Corona was out to get me, then I guess III's bee's gotten then. Not gonna live my life in fear, and not gonna worry about it either. Lots of other people must feel the same way, because the place was packed.
 
Consumers face coronavirus price-gouging

As fears over the coronavirus grow, people are frantically buying up supplies and leaving store shelves empty. Prices are also sky-rocketing online as demand grows, such as two large bottles of Purell hand sanitizer on sale for nearly $300 on Amazon. The same size normally sells for about $9 a bottle. An Amazon spokesperson says the company does not allow price gouging and it has "recently blocked or removed tens of thousands of offers." Anna Werner reports from a pharmacy in Manhattan on how coronavirus price gouging is affecting consumers.

How coronavirus price-gouging is hurting consumers

Have you experienced price gouging? I've heard several people say that they have. Since I don't do much shopping, I can't speak to any personal experiences - yet.

Here's the issue with price gauging. If you don't allow prices to fluctuate with the market, the result is there is no product.

When demand goes up, the cost goes up, which results in there being an incentive to bring products to market.

If you deny that system, then the result is there simply is not product.

I can think of dozens of examples of this. After Hurricane Sandy, the mayor of New York sent out police to stop gas stations that were charging a higher price for gasoline.

The result after that, was that gas stations sold out of gas, and people simply.... didn't have any gas for their cars.

Before that, with higher prices, the gas stations were willing to pay gas suppliers a higher fee, to get gasoline shipped into the hurricane zone, which then allowed them to sell to customers, albeit at a higher price.

But with the government sending in police to shut down gas stations engaged in this, the result was no one was willing to pay a higher price for gas, so gas simply didn't show up, the gas stations ran out of gas, and everyone couldn't fill up their cars.

Similarly after Katrina, a hardware store owner contacted private trucking firms, to pick up gas generators, and truck them into the hurricane zone to his store. Of course doing that is horribly expensive, so the store owner sold the generators at a much higher price.... now interestingly, even at the higher price, he lost money on every generator sold.

Nevertheless, he was attacked and destroyed in the media for price gauging, and never had another generator trucked into New Orleans. He lamented that all the other hardware stores were not attacked for price gauging, even though all of them had no generators at all. And of course he closed his store, and provided no generators after that either.

Now as it relates specifically to this situation, I read a post from someone complaining about price gauging. They went to walmart or some other store, and found absolutely nothing. They went to a small independent shop, and found the shelves were full... but the prices were higher.

See, walmart and the other big stores, know that if they provide product at a higher price, that people will scream about gauging. And you know this is true.

So instead, when the product runs out... it just runs out. That's what you want. You'd rather have no product, than a product at higher price. So... no product.

The smaller shops are less likely to be mentioned on that national news, so they raise prices, which allows them to pay for more product, and thus they have product.

When you prevent product prices from adjusting, you result in Venezuela results. Price controls always.... ALWAYS result in shortage.

There's a reason why you can't even find coffee, in a country in the very center of a coffee bean growing region. Price controls.

So whether it is price controls on gas or power generators in a hurricane zone, or price controls on food in Venezuela, or if you control the price of hand sanitizer in the name of "price gouging", the result will always be shortages.

This is a definite crisis where socialism should override capitalism!

And after the "crisis" naturally dies out, Socialism never goes away. Bad idea.
 
I voted no ... price gouging is the nature of Free Markets ... when the opportunity presents itself, gouge away ...

Hand sanitizer ... oh my tender liberal heart bleeds ...

Your logic prevents people of low and modest means from items they need when others are hogging and hoarding and prices are skyrocketing. Then there is also that empty shelf thingy...

Artificially low prices CAUSE empty shelves.
Hmmm, but gouging causes what ??

It does exist doesn't it ??

Isn't there a fine balance to be kept, and can we as a people without any oversight work it out everytime ?? Fair questions right ??
 
Consumers face coronavirus price-gouging

As fears over the coronavirus grow, people are frantically buying up supplies and leaving store shelves empty. Prices are also sky-rocketing online as demand grows, such as two large bottles of Purell hand sanitizer on sale for nearly $300 on Amazon. The same size normally sells for about $9 a bottle. An Amazon spokesperson says the company does not allow price gouging and it has "recently blocked or removed tens of thousands of offers." Anna Werner reports from a pharmacy in Manhattan on how coronavirus price gouging is affecting consumers.

How coronavirus price-gouging is hurting consumers

Have you experienced price gouging? I've heard several people say that they have. Since I don't do much shopping, I can't speak to any personal experiences - yet.

Here's the issue with price gauging. If you don't allow prices to fluctuate with the market, the result is there is no product.

When demand goes up, the cost goes up, which results in there being an incentive to bring products to market.

If you deny that system, then the result is there simply is not product.

I can think of dozens of examples of this. After Hurricane Sandy, the mayor of New York sent out police to stop gas stations that were charging a higher price for gasoline.

The result after that, was that gas stations sold out of gas, and people simply.... didn't have any gas for their cars.

Before that, with higher prices, the gas stations were willing to pay gas suppliers a higher fee, to get gasoline shipped into the hurricane zone, which then allowed them to sell to customers, albeit at a higher price.

But with the government sending in police to shut down gas stations engaged in this, the result was no one was willing to pay a higher price for gas, so gas simply didn't show up, the gas stations ran out of gas, and everyone couldn't fill up their cars.

Similarly after Katrina, a hardware store owner contacted private trucking firms, to pick up gas generators, and truck them into the hurricane zone to his store. Of course doing that is horribly expensive, so the store owner sold the generators at a much higher price.... now interestingly, even at the higher price, he lost money on every generator sold.

Nevertheless, he was attacked and destroyed in the media for price gauging, and never had another generator trucked into New Orleans. He lamented that all the other hardware stores were not attacked for price gauging, even though all of them had no generators at all. And of course he closed his store, and provided no generators after that either.

Now as it relates specifically to this situation, I read a post from someone complaining about price gauging. They went to walmart or some other store, and found absolutely nothing. They went to a small independent shop, and found the shelves were full... but the prices were higher.

See, walmart and the other big stores, know that if they provide product at a higher price, that people will scream about gauging. And you know this is true.

So instead, when the product runs out... it just runs out. That's what you want. You'd rather have no product, than a product at higher price. So... no product.

The smaller shops are less likely to be mentioned on that national news, so they raise prices, which allows them to pay for more product, and thus they have product.

When you prevent product prices from adjusting, you result in Venezuela results. Price controls always.... ALWAYS result in shortage.

There's a reason why you can't even find coffee, in a country in the very center of a coffee bean growing region. Price controls.

So whether it is price controls on gas or power generators in a hurricane zone, or price controls on food in Venezuela, or if you control the price of hand sanitizer in the name of "price gouging", the result will always be shortages.

This is a definite crisis where socialism should override capitalism!

And after the "crisis" naturally dies out, Socialism never goes away. Bad idea.
This has been proven to be the case over time, and all due to power hungry politicians using the crisis for creating dependent classes that end up voting for them regardless of how bad they are or how crooked they are.
 
Actually, the SC found it unconstitutional in the early days of the New Deal. It ruled the NRA to be unconstitutional, and it's primary function was to set and regulate prices.

And yet it has been done at least 3 times since then...weird.
When did Congress ever let the Constitution get in its way?

Right before the last time a president let the Constitution get in his way
That was during the Obama administration, moron.

:21::21::21::21:
There you go again defending Obama.
 
And yet it has been done at least 3 times since then...weird.
When did Congress ever let the Constitution get in its way?

Right before the last time a president let the Constitution get in his way
That was during the Obama administration, moron.

:21::21::21::21:
There you go again defending Obama.

No, I am laughing at you fucking ODS morons that think everything bad in the country started on 2008.
 

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